[Tommy Sweeney expected back by Bills per doctors]

He actually looked better than Knox in training camp in 2019 before all the issues. I hope he comes back strong. We could use some TE help.  I actually have some hope for Hollister too.  We aren't getting Pitts and I'm not sure how much Friermouth is better than the three we have to give up a premium draft pick.  Would rather get more help at DE/DT/CB/RB/OLB before TE unless he is a game changer.

[Alex Smith announces retirement]

11 hours ago, MJS said:

Underrated QB. He had some really good years in KC and San Fran. I think people just got so used to calling him average or below average that they didn't realize that se of his seasons he was easily a top 10 QB when you look at the stats. And he was a 3 time pro bowler.

 

I also think it was super lame that he got the boot after taking the 49ers to the Superbowl. San Fran should have stuck with him.

 

Underrated but still the #1 draft pick. He just didn't live up to it early in his career so he got the mediocre badge. If it wasn't for draft position, he would have been known as a solid top tier QB.  A total class act and he proved everything to himself by coming back after that horrific injury. I always liked the guy.

 

 

 

[Which player from the "wasted years" (in their prime) would help the Bills in 2021.]

If we are talking about the whole team, then I'd put in a nod for Wade Phillips as DC. He would have this defense rocking a notch above Frazier.

 

I agree on the list of players.  There's a good bunch that could help.

 

Spikes (LB)  Mario Williams or Schoebel (DE) Fat Pat, Ted Washington, Sam Adams or Kyle Williams (DT) and Winfield (CB) would be my tops on D. 

 

On offense Freddie would definitely set the tone for the RB room and make Devin and Moss better.  I'd take McCoy in his prime too.  And as an added bonus I'd love to have Jason Peters back in his prime at LT and Dawkins at RT and replace Ford with Richie Icognito (pre-mental Pro Bowl Richie)  

 

There's our Super Bowl Champs. I hope this crew can do it in 2021.

[Allen had 21 dropped interceptions last year]

These kind of balls Josh throws are hard to pick.

 

 

[Never been so disinterested in a draft]

My interest lies in seeing what magic Bean will weave to get his 2-3 top guys and sleepers. Last year I was saying Gabe Davis "meh? We'll see," but damn if that guy doesn't have 1-2nd rd talent.  Dane Jackson, "diamond in the rough".  I'm sure I'll have some type of device turned on, even if in the background waiting to hear the words "Buffalo Bills select"

[Gil Brandt’s Top 100]

6 hours ago, TPS said:

Are we trading a pick? Or are you assuming they pick someone not on the list?

Bills have 30, 61, and 93

Someone not on the list or a trade up in rd 1-2. Under Beane we definitely have drafted better and I think they find someone under the radar in round 3 that has some upside but wasn't graded because of injury or other factors.

Interesting that no one drafted by Buffalo before 2017 is on the roster and very few are even in the NFL

 

 

[Gil Brandt’s Top 100]

At the end of day 2, two of these players will be wearing Bills blue. The million dollar question is which 2?

[Bills sign DE Efe Obada]

I'm all in for this Effen Obadass! Love his story, drive, character and athletic ability. He will fit right in to this system.

[Trade down and take Pat Freiermuth]

4 hours ago, MrSarcasm said:

I disagree. Buffalo is set up well enough to where they can go BPA. Also I really don't want another RB in the first round, nor do I want a fringe starting TE taken in the second. Other then BPA Rds 1-3 for me would be DE/CB/ OT

With recent signings, I'm all for BPA but I think they have to be looking to upgrade TE/RB early, unless they address this with another signing before the draft. Either way, I completely trust this FO for the first time since the Levy era.

[Giving The D A Pass]

I do like Shelvin. He's a monster and can clog the middle and eventually take over for Star.

[Trade down and take Pat Freiermuth]

As long as Baby Gronk doesn't become Gronk 2.0 and we trade down to the 40's and some team takes him one pick before us and we land the next Torell Troupe. If we go offense in the first, I'm hoping Friermouth or Etienne. Personally I'd rather have Etienne and then take a shot at Trembly in the 2nd or 3rd as well as an EDGE. That should be RD's 1-3 RB/TE/EDGE in whatever order is BPA on our board.

 

[Backup QB 2022]

22 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Since the Bills signed Trubisky with the intent of 1 & done in 2021, they'll be in the market for a new backup in 2022.  If Sam Darnold has another mediocre season, he'll be in the same spot Trubisky was in this offseason.  If that's the case I think Sam Darnold will be the backup in 2022.  Shades of when OJ was the franchise & the Bills drafted his buddy Al Cowlings. 

Now I don't expect any murders or slow speed chases after Josh & Sam retire. 😄

We don't know if that is the intent. What if Josh wants too much? What if they can't come to a long-term solution with JA.? You never know so Trubisky is a nice plan B. They may want to see what he's got and see if he can develop into a viable solution at a better cost so they can build competitively around him.  Beane is smart enough to always have a Plan B, plus Trubisky is a great backup for a SB run. He may love the team and want to stay if the price is right.

 

I think they are looking at Fromm as the backup in 2022 either way

[[Incomplete Title] If we go Defense in Round 1]

11 minutes ago, Dkollidas said:

Gregory Rousseau please. 
length, athleticism, raw talent.

He could be coached up here, but idk if they’d go for a guy so early with such limited tape. 

He's going Top 15. I'd love him but I don't think Beane will move up that far when we already don't have a 4th. It would probably take a 3rd and a day 2 pick in 2022 which may be too much.

 

I can see a guy like Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah at 30 if we stay and draft D.  He's quick, physical and will be converted to a hybrid S/LB when we play 5 DB's (4-2-5) He can cover TE's, which we will need, especially against NE.  He's little smaller than we'd like on D, but I think he could be affective and eventually take over for Hyde or Poyer in a few years.

[Emmanuel Sanders 2021-22 predictions]

16 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

50-ish for 600-ish. With some really smart, savvy, big time catches sprinkled in there.  And that’s totally fine for the 4th option. 

 

i believe Davis is the guy that sees a bump in numbers next year and it may even be at the expense of Beasley as well. I think we can also expect a slight regression from Diggs massive 1500. 

I'm in this boat, although I think a slight bit more.  55-60 REC 750-800 YDS 6-8 TD.

[Offense.. Holes, upgrades, depth or are we good? each position.]

34 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I agree. Oliver, Epenesa, Edmunds....how many more top draft picks does anyone want invested in our Front Seven? It’s time those three take the next step. 

One more. And they need to get it right.  My guess would be someone who can lock down a TE and get to the QB on occasion. Could be one of those hybrid S/LB's like Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah or they go with a bigger guy like Zaven Collins if he drops. I think Beane and McD identified their guys on the board and have a few difference makers pencilled in on D. If they are available the Bills will strike or make a sensible move to go up and get "their" guy. 

 

I believe the same goes for offense for RB/TE's.  Rd's 1-3 on the big board are going to be looking at BPA for these positions and if they feel Pat Freiermuth (Rd1/2) Brevin Jordan (2/3)or  Tommy Tremble (3/4) are within reach they take a shot. For RB's If they feel Travis Etienne, Najee Harris or Javonte Williams can take the offense to the next level, then they pull the trigger.  If it's not worth the move, then they take a flier in Rd's 5-7 on someone who can develop or may be a sleeper who contributes. 

 

I also think the Bills look at all three of these positions in FA and make a sensible deal to get someone. Ingram, Carson, Smith, Dunlap, Duke Johnson, James White, Short, Houston, Tre Burton, Olivier Vernon, Arnold, Kerry Hyder could all be in the mix at the right price and would all add value and depth to the roster.  

 

 

 

[Thanks and Farewell to Matt Barkley]

Great teammate, role model and mentor for Josh. Unfortunately not a great arm or QB. But Barkley was a lovable guy who embraced Buffalo and that gets respect. I hope Mitch can have the same attitude because he is a serious upgrade at QB#2

[Beane/McD zoom call today at 2pm]

I'm at the point to think its addition by subtraction.  Good teams usually lose a lot of good core players in FA. We did not. 

 

All of our core pieces remain intact. Many of these players are showing improvement each year and understanding their roles on the team and play execution and assignments.  Some players didn't justify the cost of their production and they were let go.  

 

Those holes are being identified and filled. Haak gives us a punter who can pinpoint inside the 20 consistently. It comes at the cost of an inconsistent Bojo who could boom far but that's not needed as much when your offense can move the ball.  Sanders fills in for Brown and to me it's a wash. Sanders does some things better that fit into our offensive scheme. When you have 3 guys that can separate and 2 who make consistent contested catches playing with a QB who can rifle the ball into tight windows, that is going to be hard to stop. 

 

I think RB/TE will be addressed and we will upgrade from Kroft/Smith and Yeldon/Jones. There's a lot of serviceable FA out there and the Bills FO has shown the ability to draft well and deep. I think from this we draft one Day 1 or Day 2 and sign a vet. 

 

What's really left to fill before the draft?  DE/EDGE that can get sacks and disrupt the QB.  Epenesa was showing a lot of improvement over the year and I think he will step up and be a solid part of the rotation. I think we trade or find one early in the draft.

 

CB#2. As the market settles, I think we take a flier on someone and draft a CB Day2.  As is, we definitely make the playoffs. but I think Beane will continue to improve the roster for a SB run.

[How will the Bills defend against the Patriots 2 new TEs?]

3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

I'm pretty sure you need a QB to get the ball to them.   Buffalo should sweep these bums

Should, but it's far from a given. NE will have a stout defense and BB knows how to scheme against us. He always out-coaches and outhinks McD. The monkey got off our back last year, but we will need to bring our A-game to sweep.  I think if they stick with Cam they will figure out ways to get him to become a game manager. If the NE OL holds up, then I think they can manage to score some points. I also think they are not done at QB yet. The gave Cam backup money.  Good, smart QB play brings NE back into the spotlight. 

 

[How will the Bills defend against the Patriots 2 new TEs?]

11 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Bills have the worst TE history in the NFL on both sides of the ball. They have never had a single pro bowl appearance and they are historically one of the worst teams when defending the TE. This transcends two owners, dozens of coaches, and hundreds of players.  It really is almost statically impossible for the Bills to be any worse with TE production and defense.

My take exactly. I can't figure out how for the 30 years I've been watching the Bills, they still get gashed by TE's and have never had one that can become a major weapon on offense. We could have had Gronk but we really needed Torrel Troupe  

 

[Bills sign Emmanuel Sanders]

The thing they touted about Sanders just as much as his "route" running is his ability to get separation. If there is one thing we saw this year that stood out, it was Josh's ability to throw into a tight window where there was some separation. As much as Brown contributed, he was not the kind of guy to beat physical corners and get that window.  Diggs did. Beasley did and Gabe managed to use his body to toe tap or reach over defenders to make contested catches.  Brown did none of this. You had to scheme plays for him to get open. 

 

With Josh learning to read defenses better, scramble and make throws to his 2nd, 3rd and 4th options, Sanders plays right into the offense perfectly. This is why I think he's an upgrade, even though he is aging. He still caught 60+ for NO and has played with mostly crap QB's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cynthia Frelund teasing Bills fans with rumor tweet]

3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I like math now.

[Bills sign Emmanuel Sanders]

7 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

having watched 100% of sanders snaps last year, I’m comfortable with my assessment 

 

sanders peak was excellent. Brown is still much closer to his ceiling though.

Sanders also had Taysom Hill throwing to him and a watered down, injured and about to retire Brees. I think a Sanders will have a good year and open up things for Beas and Diggs.  I do agree on watching his snaps this year. I had Sanders on my fantasy team and he disappointed. I never started him.

[Bills sign Emmanuel Sanders]

35 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

He’s not as good as brown, but he’s an nfl starter on the outside and we needed one.

The stats say otherwise. Sanders has better numbers for most of his career which is why I call even. Truth is they both lost a step from their prime.

Brown had only 2 seasons over 1,000 yds and 2 over 60 REC.  

Sanders has 3 over 1k and  7 seasons over 60 REC.  That's a lot more production.

 

10 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

 

John Brown stats

[Bills sign Emmanuel Sanders]

this would be good. He's = to Brown. 

[Who Are the Best Remaining Pass Rushers on Day 2 of FA?]

4 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

For a moment I thought, “I don’t think they’re really all that invested in developing Klein” 🤦‍♂️ 

Funny thing is that Klein actually flashed potential when they used him right. He made some impact plays after a dreadful start. 

AJ Epenesa is the one who could turn the corner and become a force on D. At least we hope.