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Billistic

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  1. Preaching to the choir, Sage.

     

    At least this band of idiots hasn't limited themselves to bashing only the Bills, based on preseason action. Many of the Norman Einsteins here have written off several players, and even teams, based on their first preseason game. The fun never stops here at TBD/TSW.

     

    Norman Einstein, meet Marilyn Monroe.

     

  2. Jesus H Christ on a stick, a lot of posters on this board need to take a chill pill. As much as I missed Bills football, it's clear that some folks around here simply missed complaining about Bills football. It's the preseason, we could lose each game 100-0 and it wouldn't mean anything until 8:00 on September 14th.

     

    I get frustrated too, but how are you going to survive the regular season if you're having an aneurysm over week 1 of the preseason?

     

    Well...god gave you the stone tablets, Bills-Moses, so tell us how to behave righteously...

  3. A.

    Yeah, those Tampa 2 D schemes were keeping Bill Walsh up late at night when he started devising the WCO. Now, while Walsh borrowed elements of other offenses he'd used over the years as a coach (Sid Gillman, Paul Brown), he IS generally regarded as the the father of the WCO. Nobody was running the Tampa 2 in the late 60s and early 70s. Nor was anyone running it when he perfected the WCO with the 49ers.

     

    The term West Coast Offense originally referred to the style that Sid Gillman and Don Coryell started using as far back as the 1960s. The NFL teams using the system were the San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders, and therefore the term West Coast was deemed appropriate. Since that time, that style of offensive attack has become known as the "Air Coryell" offense and the West Coast Offense now refers soley to Bill Walsh's principles and the style he implemented with the San Francisco 49ers in the 1980s. in: WCO

     

    B.

    Now, it could be argued that, since Chuck Knoll and the Steelers introduced the cover-2 zone D as a pass defense scheme in the early to mid-seventies that everyone started to copy, Bill Walsh devised an offense specifically to beat THAT. But that doesn't hold much water since nobody was playing the Steelers' cover 2 when he first started implementing elements of the WCO with the Bengals in the late 60s MOSTLY as a way to compensate for their limited QB (Virgil Carter). Walsh also recognized the value in ball control that relied less on running and more on short passing. The rest is history.

     

    Tony Dungy has been quoted to say “My philosophy is really out of the 1975 Pittsburgh Steelers playbook,” said Dungy during media interviews while at Super Bowl XLI. “That is why I have to laugh when I hear 'Tampa 2'. Chuck Noll and Bud Carson — that is where it came from, I changed very little.”
    from: origin of Tampa 2 defense

     

    So, contrary to your mystically messed up timelines, Walsh was tooling up the real WCO with the 49ers in the 1980s shortly after Dungy and Kiffin slightly modified Knoll and Carson's 1975 defense into what is presently the Tampa 2.[Just like I said], namely to pressure the QB so he has scant time and drop the CBs, safeties and at least one LB back into zone coverage.

     

    The WCO The offense relies on a shorter passing game. The Quarterback can take shorter drops and throws shorter passes. There are also lots of roll out plays if the quarterback in a mobile one. With the shorter passes, the completion percentage goes up. Also it's harder to sack the quarterback when he takes short drops and releases the ball faster, especially important against the penetrating rush of the Tampa2 front four.

     

    The short passing game can overcome the lack of a strong running game, as in the Bills. It replaces the running game in one sense. The traditional role of running, is to control the clock and wear down a defense, as further amplified by the no-huddle. There are also lots of pass plays for the running backs themselves. Earl Cooper, Roger Craig, Tom Rathmon, Ricky Waters and many other West Coast runners put up great receiving numbers. Craig even turned in the first 1,000 yard rushing and 1,000 yard receiving season, in the same year by a player. The Bills bring Jackson, Rhodes and Lynch to the passing game.

  4. Byrdy missed the all OTAs due to college exams - Did he get his degree?

     

    He missed all of training camp thus far because after the inner circle jerk signed him, he elected surgery. - Did the inner circle jerk know this ahead of time and OK it, or was it Crowell-esque?

     

    So he is hundreds of hours behind everybody on the Bills defensive team, and, for that matter in the entire NFL...but his concern is getting his six pack ripped.

     

    Even Pee Wee Fewell said,

     

    Sometimes in a film session when you’re listening and listening it isn’t always good enough. You have to practice it and do it on the field and develop chemistry with the guys that you’re working with and do it on the field. That will be a project for us that we’ll just have to wait and see.

     

    So mentally he’ll be spinning from the information. Mentally I don’t care how sharp a guy is it can’t replace the physical rep that you take in practice. The mental rep is excellent, I don’t discount it, but the physical rep is also important.

     

    People complain about Aaron Maybin likely not being able to contribute this season, but J-byrd is in the exact same place. You guys are incredible lightweights.

  5. According to Jairus:

     

    Now, it's just getting on the field and getting the muscles stronger. ... I always try to get my abs good, because I need to build that back up. That's pretty much the No. 1 thing I couldn't do, is abs. And my legs still could be a lot stronger, so I still need to work on that in the weight room.

     

    Did they send Mr. Byrd a playbook, or is he overly worried about his pic in a calendar?

     

    Oh, Momma, is this really the end, or am I stuck inside of Mobile...

  6. You could see the writing on the wall when Pos grew out his hair like a hippie freako and bought the designer lunch bucket. He seems to have started taking chin enhancers also. I think this is a manifestation of the creeping, evil influence of Owens. God(s) help us...

  7. I guarantee you that when the O-line cannot even get the running back to the line of scrimmage let alone to the second level, a FB or some stupid H-back can only serve to plug up the tiny crease that opens one chance out of three.

     

    2008 was "The Year of the Real Full Back" for the Bills.

     

    result < zero

     

    Selective memory loss reigns supreme with some Bills fans.

  8. To me, Trent Edwards appears to be an ideal fit in the West Coast Offense. If he is going to be our QB of the future, why not have a West Coast Offensive philosophy? After all, that is what he ran in college and Bill Walsh gave Trent Edwards the big thumbs up. I see no reason not to employ it

     

    The Bills essentially do try to run of version of the WCO, only poorly. Now that they have two WRs and maybe a TE (Nelson) along with three pass-catching RBs, it may take off. The WCO was specifically designed to be an antidote to the Tampa 2 defense (pressure the QB and play zone pass defense), which is now going obsolete except in Indy, Buff, Bears, but it still is an answer to not having time to throw, for whatever reason.

  9. New Orleans Saint RB George Rogers when asked about the upcoming season: "I want to rush for 1,000 or 1,500 yards, whichever comes first."

     

    "This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria....I saw her snatch this morning and it was amazing." -Pat Glenn - Weightlifting commentator

     

    Baseball player Pedro Guerrero, on sportswriters: "Sometimes they write what I say and not what I mean."

     

    Greg Norman: "I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and father."

     

    Oiler coach Bum Phillips: When asked by Bob Costas why he takes his wife on all the road trips, Phillips responded, "Because she is too damn ugly to kiss goodbye."

     

    Football commentator and former player Joe Theismann: "Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."

     

    ...not even getting into the Yogi Berra thing...

  10. Jimmy's going to be just fine as soon as Turk and his staff train him to tie his shoe laces and run in the right direction, that is, if he doesn't shoot his daddy first. No one wants to go back to the smerf receiving corps. The taller the better. It's all about tallness. The whole league is looking for the next Plaxico Burress.

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