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James Brown from CBS lead off his segment (after Carton played a very funny blooper involving John Clayton!) talking about us and had some great things to say about Buffalo this year. http://www.wfan.com/ It's under 'Boomer and Carton Audio'. No link I had to hit 'download' to play it.

Double non-secret probation completely agree!

I use Firefox just tried it works fine.

Understood, no problem. I just hope they win and stay healthy Sunday.

I understand your points and they are valid of course. But again, I was referring to him not being a starter on a number of teams LAST YEAR. I heard negative comments from people who seem to know O-line LAST YEAR. - So we know preseason don't mean squat...so I am holding off judging his play THIS YEAR until we see some games. Again, I hope he's great.

Bashing Butler are your words, not mine. I don't think he would have started on a number of teams LAST YEAR. Some will agree, some won't. Same old same old. New year obviously..jury's still out on him and others. I hope he succeeds. I hope he becomes an all-pro. He's got the desire and size so that's a start. You shared your opinion, just don't accuse me of bashing someone when you didn't check to see how I project him going forward. You said there are O-line experts 'here' ... So, I welcome all experts opinions ... but to be an expert it is a general rule of thumb you had to have played or coached the game on with a fairly high level of success in the college or the pros to be even considered one.

As a backup I'd agree some of the better teams would have taken him last year, but not to start. Now Miami, sure they would had him start- I hope Butler can succeed 'cuz obviously we ain't got a good alternative yet.

Thanks Brad.

Thanks for the welcome and advice ... good to see your screen name remembering "BobbyGreatHands"

Peters made the Pro Bowl in his 2nd year of being a left tackle, 3rd year starter I believe. Very talented but he was as we all know very raw. McNally taught him; but in the clip didn't take ANY credit for Peters success. I don't think many teams, and all we can speak about are last year and the previous McNally years, would take Melvin and Brad off our hands. Plus look at all the O-lineman we have let go. Who among them is doing anything? Aren't some of them out of the league at still a fairly young age? JP, some of our wide receivers, and Trent all played so-so at best last year. Plus the big X-factor, or should I say 0 factor... Fairchild! Everybody knew what was coming. So IMO to say McNally didn't do a good job wit the O-line is oversimplifying things. To my recollection Donahoe never drafted a decent O-lineman except for the oft injured Jonas Jennings. We signed 2 good free agents last year, but the O-line experts I've heard say continuity is required for this to work best. hopefully they will stay healthy and get a 2nd year together. That ain't much time. We all know that continuity has been severely lacking. For what, close to 10 years or more on the O-line?

Thanks for the welcomes and glad to share a clip from the NFL insider who knows J Peters work better than anybody... The Mouse.

I just saw this for the first time. If you haven't seen it, IMO it's worth a look. http://www.pompomboo.com/2008/08/chris-chambers.html

Thanks for the compliment and the welcome...

Here's the audio...he goes into detail about the why and how unique Peters is. He starts that discussion just past the halfway mark on the clip. http://weck1230.com/brad/091008mcnally.mp3