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I just hope Arron Schobel is gaining some weight while sitting around not playing football. He has done nothing ever since he lost 20lbs 2 years ago. He must get back to 262lbs if he wants to earn some success again. It makes me wonder if he was on steroids and now he is off the juice and can't gain the weight back. He has like 4 sacks since being only 242lbs. Doesn't anybody else but me notice this fall off since the major drop off in weight...
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I just hope Arron Schobel is gaining some weight while sitting around not playing football. He has done nothing ever since he lost 20lbs 2 years ago. He must get back to 262lbs if he wants to earn some success again. It makes me wonder if he was on steroids and now he is off the juice and can't gain the weight back. He has like 4 sacks since being only 242lbs. Doesn't anybody else but me notice this fall off since the major drop off in weight...
Per BB.com's Chris Brown: I'm just wondering why they waited so long for them to make this decision? Why not do it last month or even when we knew his foot was ailing? Yet another head scratching move by the organization. This could set him back.....but really who cares his production has not been anything special...
It was only a matter of time, but on Thursday that time came as Aaron Schobel was placed on injured reserve ending a long season marred by a Lisfranc foot injury.
Schobel suffered an almost completely torn ligament in his left foot near the bottom of his big toe just before halftime of the St. Louis game in Week 4.
“When it happened I never thought it was more than just something that hurt me for that play,” Schobel told Buffalobills.com. “I played the whole game on it. And then the next week it was pretty sore and I shot it up and from then on it was a little different.”
Schobel never appeared in another game the rest of the season.
Buffalo’s training staff was diligent in their efforts to help get the team’s top pass rusher back on the field, and there was a moment of hope that would happen when he practiced last week leading up to the Miami game, but the results weren’t positive.
“It didn’t go like we wanted it to or he wanted it to last week and the foot is sore, so we took a couple of steps back,” said head coach Dick Jauron.
Schobel believes the pain is due mainly to a bone bruise as the torn ligament is allowing the two bones in his toe to rub against one another.
“The only time I really have pain is when I push to my right,” said Schobel. “It’s my left foot and if I push to my right where the ball of my big toe sticks in the ground and it rolls, that’s when it hurts. That’s why I felt I couldn’t play in last week’s game. It just got worse as the week went on. But it is better and that’s why I’m hoping it just heals.”
So are the Bills. According to Schobel, who flew home to his native Texas home in Columbus this week, surgery has been put off for now but is still a possibility if the ligament cannot heal on its own.
“I’m going to come back before the year is out and we’re going to try to do some more work and then I’m going to come back again the first of February and work it hard and if it’s bothering me then, then I have to make a decision.”
That decision will be surgery. Between now and February Schobel is hoping the gap between the bones of his big toe is reduced and the bones are effectively held in place by the scar tissue now forming around the damaged ligament.
“That’s what they’re waiting on to see if the scar tissue holds it in place where it doesn’t shift,” Schobel said. “If that works then they won’t have to do the surgery. They said that could take up to a couple of months. But if it’s not good by the first of February then I’ll probably have to do something.”
Rehab off of surgery takes about six months as a screw is inserted to keep the bones from shifting. So naturally waiting any longer than February first is not an option if the Bills want their best pass rusher ready in September.
“We don’t want to wait until March or April and find it still hurts and isn’t normal,” he said. “We don’t want to be in April and having surgery and then it’s six months. The best thing is to give it enough time to heal on its own and then if it doesn’t then we’ve got to do something.”
There have been other prominent players in the NFL that have had Lisfranc foot injuries. Most recently fellow defensive end Dwight Freeney of the Indianapolis Colts suffered one of the more severe kinds of Lisfranc foot injuries. Surgery was deemed necessary immediately in November of 2007 and by the close of training camp the following August he was back up to speed.
“Mine was two millimeters his was five,” said Schobel of Freeney’s injury. “That was the gap. It’s based more on where it’s at in the foot. Philip Rivers had it and he didn’t end up having the surgery.”
Schobel hadn’t missed an NFL start in his eight-year career until this injury. In fact high school was the last time he missed a game.
“Ninth grade,” said Schobel. “I played two games had a hamstring injury and missed five games and since then I hadn’t missed.”
That’s why sitting and watching his teammates struggle has been hard for him to deal with.
“I feel like when I’m in the game I think I make the team better so to see them struggle, it sucks,” said Schobel. “Being hurt really makes the season longer because you don’t have anything to do and you’re generally unproductive. I really believe we’re on the right track, we just need a couple of more players to step up.”
Schobel says he sees his teammates doing all they can on the field each Sunday and it bothers him that he can’t contribute. That’s why he knows this offseason will be the most unusual one he’s experienced in his career.
“Usually when the offseason comes I look forward to it and I feel like I earned it, but not this year with the injury,” said Schobel. “I know it’s part of the business and people get hurt. I’m just not used to being one of them.”
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Per BB.com's Chris Brown: I'm just wondering why they waited so long for them to make this decision? Why not do it last month or even when we knew his foot was ailing? Yet another head scratching move by the organization. This could set him back.....but really who cares his production has not been anything special...
It was only a matter of time, but on Thursday that time came as Aaron Schobel was placed on injured reserve ending a long season marred by a Lisfranc foot injury.
Schobel suffered an almost completely torn ligament in his left foot near the bottom of his big toe just before halftime of the St. Louis game in Week 4.
“When it happened I never thought it was more than just something that hurt me for that play,” Schobel told Buffalobills.com. “I played the whole game on it. And then the next week it was pretty sore and I shot it up and from then on it was a little different.”
Schobel never appeared in another game the rest of the season.
Buffalo’s training staff was diligent in their efforts to help get the team’s top pass rusher back on the field, and there was a moment of hope that would happen when he practiced last week leading up to the Miami game, but the results weren’t positive.
“It didn’t go like we wanted it to or he wanted it to last week and the foot is sore, so we took a couple of steps back,” said head coach Dick Jauron.
Schobel believes the pain is due mainly to a bone bruise as the torn ligament is allowing the two bones in his toe to rub against one another.
“The only time I really have pain is when I push to my right,” said Schobel. “It’s my left foot and if I push to my right where the ball of my big toe sticks in the ground and it rolls, that’s when it hurts. That’s why I felt I couldn’t play in last week’s game. It just got worse as the week went on. But it is better and that’s why I’m hoping it just heals.”
So are the Bills. According to Schobel, who flew home to his native Texas home in Columbus this week, surgery has been put off for now but is still a possibility if the ligament cannot heal on its own.
“I’m going to come back before the year is out and we’re going to try to do some more work and then I’m going to come back again the first of February and work it hard and if it’s bothering me then, then I have to make a decision.”
That decision will be surgery. Between now and February Schobel is hoping the gap between the bones of his big toe is reduced and the bones are effectively held in place by the scar tissue now forming around the damaged ligament.
“That’s what they’re waiting on to see if the scar tissue holds it in place where it doesn’t shift,” Schobel said. “If that works then they won’t have to do the surgery. They said that could take up to a couple of months. But if it’s not good by the first of February then I’ll probably have to do something.”
Rehab off of surgery takes about six months as a screw is inserted to keep the bones from shifting. So naturally waiting any longer than February first is not an option if the Bills want their best pass rusher ready in September.
“We don’t want to wait until March or April and find it still hurts and isn’t normal,” he said. “We don’t want to be in April and having surgery and then it’s six months. The best thing is to give it enough time to heal on its own and then if it doesn’t then we’ve got to do something.”
There have been other prominent players in the NFL that have had Lisfranc foot injuries. Most recently fellow defensive end Dwight Freeney of the Indianapolis Colts suffered one of the more severe kinds of Lisfranc foot injuries. Surgery was deemed necessary immediately in November of 2007 and by the close of training camp the following August he was back up to speed.
“Mine was two millimeters his was five,” said Schobel of Freeney’s injury. “That was the gap. It’s based more on where it’s at in the foot. Philip Rivers had it and he didn’t end up having the surgery.”
Schobel hadn’t missed an NFL start in his eight-year career until this injury. In fact high school was the last time he missed a game.
“Ninth grade,” said Schobel. “I played two games had a hamstring injury and missed five games and since then I hadn’t missed.”
That’s why sitting and watching his teammates struggle has been hard for him to deal with.
“I feel like when I’m in the game I think I make the team better so to see them struggle, it sucks,” said Schobel. “Being hurt really makes the season longer because you don’t have anything to do and you’re generally unproductive. I really believe we’re on the right track, we just need a couple of more players to step up.”
Schobel says he sees his teammates doing all they can on the field each Sunday and it bothers him that he can’t contribute. That’s why he knows this offseason will be the most unusual one he’s experienced in his career.
“Usually when the offseason comes I look forward to it and I feel like I earned it, but not this year with the injury,” said Schobel. “I know it’s part of the business and people get hurt. I’m just not used to being one of them.”
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I've been more realistic than most here. I've been saying so over 2 years that Jauron couldn't win in this league when so many supported him. 7-9 (again) is hysterical and very sad. Sadder and funnier is the front office extending Jauron's deal. Even fans can see what he is and what he isn't. So yes, the Bills are laughable, but still have my support.
The bottom line is that 85% of the NFL teams who start off 5-1 make the playoffs. Jauron is one of the 15% who found a way to crap the bed. We had a really really easy schedule this year. To finish up the way we are is laughable and the coach needs to take full blame. Ralph needs to tell Dick to pack his bags.
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I'll take it one step further.
Fire Jauron and cut he following players:
Trent Edwards
JP Losman
Derrick Dockery
Terrence McGee
Chris Kelsay
Robert Royal
And start over. Again.
FIRE JARON, ONCE A LOSER ALWAYS A LOSER!!! WE NEED A CHANGE AND WE NEED IT NOW!!! bILLS FANS DESERVE BETTER RALPH. I WATCHED A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME TODAY, WHAT AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!!! CAN LOSMAN WHILE YOUR AT IT; WHAT A HORRIBLE EXCUSE FOR A QB.
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Jauron isn't going anywhere until after the 2010 season at the earliest
He just signed an extension thru 2011, and it'll take a crowbar to separate Ralph from his money
Fire Jauron now; he is a loser. He had 1 winning season with the Bears. Shottenheimer or Cower would be the only 2 names that would excite me. Bills fans deserve way better than this Ralph. We have supported a loser for way to long now. Change is needed immediately!!! By the way, can Losman while your at it; what an absolute pathetic excuse for a QB...
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Only the Bills can score 54 points last week and muster only 3 this week.
The Bills don't deserve their fans, that's for sure. I am tired of these coaches who cannot get it done. Throw Shotenheimer or Cower the money it will take to bring them in and let's stop looking like a damn high school team. The Bills need to waive Losman and fire Jauron immediately!!! I agree with the comment that was made "sucess is determined with wins and Jauron simply is a losing head coach; he does not win!!! Our offensive line played a hell of a game and we came up with only 3 points, that's a joke! Losman will never change. He stares at one receiver and has tunnel vision. He also has no pocket presense at all. Edwards is taking steps backwards and we don't have good receivers. Our recivers our pathetic. Hardy is terrible!!! We can't simply make another change. We need to bring in someone who will make a difference. Dick Jauron, your a nice guy, but unfortunately your an awful and I mean awful coach...
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I 100% agree with you on Schobel. Ever since we have gone to the Tampa-2 defense he has been a below average DE. I think he needs to regain his weight he lost because at LB weight he is simply getting man handled and pushed around. You got to know that the Bills see his play on film after every game and if his poor play continues he'll be looking for a new job soon. I'd love to see Ellis in there; he can't do no worse...
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that is what i thought. if you look at his waste, he was twisting his body/neck and there is no way you are going to catch a ball like that, even if it is thrown perfectly to you.
But yes, Mr. Wonderful is right. good players are good in the begining. so lets cut youboty. he is good now, but he wasn't in the begining. dump that late bloomer now!
Hardy looks extremely soft and he plays with very little confidence. I think he'll come around but at this time he is very green and needs a lot of maturing. By the way, where in the world is Schobel. I have an early prediction for next season. Ellis will be starting over Schobel. He sucks!!!
So Schobel may still need surgery on his foot?
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