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Developmental project with upside - what else do you want in 6th round??
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1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I think Edwards might end up as the best of the 3. He is a playmaker that is a little underappreciated. It’s like when Hyde and Poyer got here.
Agree to disagree. PFF is not perfect, but they rated him as 82nd best graded safety with a +56.9 overall grade this past year. And KC let him go, and Bills signed him for less than KC paid him. Bishop, meanwhile, has a reputation as being smart, excels in zone coverage and TE coverage. If Edwards beats him out, its a wasted 2nd round pick, IMHO.
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1 minute ago, JoshAllin said:
So Rapp and Edwards fight for the other saftey spot in training camp?
I think it could go either way, but I'm hoping Edwards is the backup.....
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I loved what Diggs brought production wise for the first few years, but the trade speaks volumes to what the Bills are all about character wise in the locker room. And this was not a step back. I wasn't sure what to think at first, but am happy and trusting the process now. Can't wait to see what WR we draft.
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54 minutes ago, Andy1 said:
Diggs has shown that he is primarily all about himself. He has a manipulative side to his personality. I think he was probably manipulating Josh with all the buddy- buddy stuff so he could be Josh’s favorite and get the most balls thrown to him. As long as he got his stats, he was happy and Josh was his buddy. When times got tough, he showed he was more about himself, making it look like he cared more about winning than anyone else on the team. Josh realized he wasn’t his buddy and just wanted stats. The passive aggressive tweets were manipulative crap to get everyone to bend to his desires. Anyone who cares about their team doesn’t pull that crap.
First half of last year, Dorsey and Josh tried to satisfy him, to the detriment of the offense. Diggs stats were great but we were losing and Josh wasn’t right. Brady comes in with a new direction and Diggs mentally checks out because it isn’t about him anymore. The team saw through Diggs act and said enough. Josh got right and we went on the winning streak. I think Josh is relieved, but he has got more responsibility this off season to get the new receiving corps functioning, so there should be less golf time this summer.
Best post of this thread! Excellently said....
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4 hours ago, billsfan89 said:
Bills have plenty of late round picks, I could easily see them drafting a RB with good return ability in round 6 where they have 3 selections. It would be a place where they could roster a player (they usually carry 3 RB's but only have 2 on the roster in Cook and Ty Johnson) and a spot in the draft where you could find a back with a bit of upside and return ability.
As far as the new kickoff rule I am OK with it. The kickoff in the traditional form was a very dangerous play and the last few seasons it mostly ended in touchbacks making it kind of a boring play. My only issue is that you have to declare an onsides kick which removes the element of surprise kicks and some strategy. I wish they would go with a rule where in the 4th quarter you can elect to one time instead of a kickoff go with a 4th and 20 to try to keep the ball. Seems like that would be more exciting than a declared onsides kick and make comebacks more possible.
They do have Darrynton Evans, but I am not here to quibble - I agree I can see picking up a return specialist late in the draft or a cheap free agent. This is a big change, and yards are yards....we should be looking to be proactive and take advantage of this however we can. I want to give Josh the best starting position we can.
P.S. Pretty sure the Steelers were thinking the same when they just happened to sign Cordarelle Patterson just hours after the kickoff change was approved. Kickoff return value was minimized before the change.....
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Guaranteed money guarantees he is here for two years. If it works out, we have him here for a third year at $8m or so - and if he is good, thats a steal considering how much higher good WR's will cost then - and if not, we suffer little dead money. Only risk is if he faceplants this year - and I'm not thinking thats likely.
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You don't want to kill the aggressiveness, but note that the OC and WR1 are not having discussions with Jackson or Benford. It is only Elam. That is my concern (and pretty sure its not because Jackson and Benford need to be holding more). I am so not an Elam hater - I would love him to be take the #2 spot. Just don't want us giving up 1st downs for ref calls.
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6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
So the only thing I’m gonna say on this is I don’t remember seeing Elam getting flagged for penalties whenever he was in the games last year sure does he need to work on his holding yes but the NFL allows a ton of holding if they didn’t allow holding sauce. Gardner wouldn’t be the player that is.
That is a fine line, agreed, hate when one of those calls decides a game....
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1 minute ago, BillsSbSoon said:
That’s what im saying too. The more physicality the better. You don’t want take that away from him
There is aggressive play, and stupid play.....Elam has mad skills, but he can't be giving up the first down before the ball comes close to the WR.
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1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:
Elam’s number one priority, like all CBs is to prevent WRs from catching the ball, like I said in previous posts in this thread, unless it’s a point of the offense getting their timing down, he should ignore both the OC & WR #1, their priorities are not Elam’s priorities.
The OC and WR1 are trying to help Elam - not sure why the DB coach is not - but if Elam gets called for PI and keeps our O off the field, its every bit as much of an issue as the drops we saw from l'il dirty and gabe last year that drove us all nuts. Just saying.
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3 hours ago, newcam2012 said:
I think Gabe has to get better at winning the contested and hard catches. His win percentage is near the bottom for WRs.
Tuning into this thread late, I am surprised that no one has brought up the bigger issue. Gabe is not on the same page as Josh. Many of JA's misses and interceptions were targets to Davis. Davis has extreme talent, but his head does not seem to be always in it, or at least not on the same page with his QB. Even the awesome TD vs NE, Josh led Gabe to the middle, well before Gabe thought to brake that way to catch it. The natural instincts and chemistry just do not seem to be there. And I was fully expecting it to be there. Just my two cents. Once the WR's have to scramble at all, I do not have faith in Davis. Really wish I did.
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8 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:
315lbs from Cincinnati, so he also knows how to mess up a large 4-way from Skyline.
Actually heard he was more of a Gold Star 5-way guy.....gonna have to adapt his chili tastes here!
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8 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:
I don't know if it has been brought up and I didn't watch the game, but going on memory the Stars have tied the Bills for making it to 4 straight football championship games.
1983, 1984, 1985, 2022
I couldn't remember if Philly won any back in the 80's, but yeah, moving from Philly to Buffalo, I watched both, and teams were very similar - great coaching (Marv for Bills, obviously, and Jim Mora for Philly in the 80's, if I remember correctly), but never able to get over the hump......
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Full show here (Beane section starts at 34:00 or so):
edit: sorry for repost, somehow missed the post above!
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Just the fact that this is an 8-page thread, arguing that Josh is disrespected by being ranked 6th........which I get, he should be higher.....but as of even two years ago, if anyone told me we would have a bonafide top 6 QB, I woulda been buying rounds. Just saying. Awesome thing to argue!
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Looking at his career stats, he did do some kick returning his first year with SF....wonder if Bills may give him a look there?
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I'm liking this line of thinking that Allen gets career years out of his receivers.....if Sanders has his career year now, we will be sitting pretty!
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I remember when I thought NE made a huge mistake in dropping Bledsoe for some unknown guy named Brady......I truly have no idea what they plan for QB, but yeah, they still scare me.....I'll believe the evil empire demise when I see it.
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I love Allen, and do believe he has improved, but some of the OP's stats are skewed. Allen did only play in 11 games in 2018 - so you can't use 2018 seasonal rankings comparing him to other QB's that played more games. For example, a large reason he finished 30th in total passing attempts and 32nd in total passing TD's last year is because many other QB's played more games than him. So the improvements from 30th to 15th and 32nd to 19th is likely more because he is now being compared to other QB's that played the same amount of games in 2019. If you want look at game averages, such as passing attempts per game, that would be a much better comparison.....
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Ummm....don't forget that 34 of the 90 guys on the team now will be free agents next year. Sure, some will not be among the final 53, but many will. Restricted free agents in 2020 include Levi Wallace and Robert Foster, while UFA's include Jordan Phillips, Spencer Long, Lorax, Kevin Johnson, Hauschka, Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain, and LaAdrian Waddle, among others. And key players to try and lock-up before their 2020 contract year include Tre White, Matt Milano, Jordan Poyer, Dion Dawkins and maybe Zay Jones.
Given the need to extend/re-sign some of the above, and fill the shoes of those leaving with comparable talent, smart spending remains the order of the day. We are in decent shape, but over the top spending would land us right back where we were, and I don't see any way that this regime will let that happen.
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FantasyPros just came out with their ranking of coaches:
https://www.fantasypros.com/2019/05/nfl-head-coach-rankings-2019/
McD came in at #19 (Gase was #31, Marrone was #32).
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1 hour ago, clearwater cadet said:
I remember that, we were playing the Pats at Home, leading with about a bit over 4 mins on the clock in the 4th, and they run the no huddle which we went 3 and out in about 30 sec. They gave the ball back to Tommy terrific with over 3 mins and 3 times. I don't have to tell you how it ended.
Too bad Buddy Ryan wasn't our DC then.....now THAT woulda been entertaining!
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Fisher already gone....
2025 comp picks - good 1st day for that
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Ugghhh....Mack Hollins $2.6M contract (7th rd compensatory....barely) wipes out Floyd's $10M, 5th rd loss? Something seriously wrong with that.....