OnTheRocks Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 With the Bills finishing 9-7. The Bills grabbed him at #22. Do any of you draft guru's know their draft position this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyWhite Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 It cost the Bills a 2nd and 5th round pick. If you're going to say that it cost you a first rounder...that's wacky logic. That's like saying McGahee cost you a first rounder. The trade was for a 1st next year, and the 2nd and 5th picks. In reality, you used next year's first this year. So...I think it's fair to say, it cost the Bills a 2nd and a 5th. This year, they're selecting 21/22/23 (which Dallas owns). It's right in that neighborhood (depending on tiebreakers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 i hate to start this semantical discussion again, but mcgahee DID cost us a first rounder. we could have used that pick to get someone else (not that we would want to given his results this season). it's opportunity cost. we could have kept the first, second, and fifth and used it on three different players. so JP cost us a first, second, and fifth. opportunity cost. if JP fails, Tom Donahoe will end up being the most hated GM in Bills history. That's 4 season with no playoffs and counting Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Seems I heard somewhere that there are charts that state what "fair values" for draft trades are. IRRC, the move by the Bills to get Losman was above fair value. I might be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 i hate to start this semantical discussion again, but mcgahee DID cost us a first rounder. we could have used that pick to get someone else (not that we would want to given his results this season). it's opportunity cost. we could have kept the first, second, and fifth and used it on three different players. so JP cost us a first, second, and fifth. opportunity cost. if JP fails, Tom Donahoe will end up being the most hated GM in Bills history. That's 4 season with no playoffs and counting Tommy. 190355[/snapback] Why not? we gotta talk about something... Just a week or so ago, numerous TD haters became TD lovers, and I'm betting the pendulum will swing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 i hate to start this semantical discussion again, but mcgahee DID cost us a first rounder. we could have used that pick to get someone else (not that we would want to given his results this season). it's opportunity cost. we could have kept the first, second, and fifth and used it on three different players. so JP cost us a first, second, and fifth. opportunity cost. if JP fails, Tom Donahoe will end up being the most hated GM in Bills history. That's 4 season with no playoffs and counting Tommy. 190355[/snapback] Opportunity cost - Players unavailable to Bills due to trade of 2nd round pick to Dallas... Dallas (from Buffalo)- Jones, Julius RB 5-9 217 Notre Dame Indianapolis- Sanders, Bob SS 5-8 204 Iowa Oakland - Grove, Jake C 6-3 300 Virginia Tech San Francisco -Smiley, Justin G 6-3 301 Alabama Chicago - Johnson, Terry DT 6-2 283 Washington Minnesota- Thomas, Dontarrious OLB 6-2 241 Auburn Cincinnati - Ratliff, Keiwan CB 5-10 187 Florida New Orleans - Henderson, Devery WR 5-11 191 Louisiana State Baltimore - Edwards, Dwan DT 6-2 309 Oregon State Dallas - Rogers, Jacob OT 6-5 305 Southern California Seattle - Boulware, Michael OLB 6-2 223 Florida State Denver - Watts, Darius WR 6-1 188 Marshall Jacksonville - Jones, Greg RB 6-1 250 Florida State Cincinnati - Williams, Madieu FS 6-0 190 Maryland Tennessee - Odom, Antwan DE 6-4 277 Alabama San Francisco -Spencer, Shawntae CB 6-0 176 Pittsburgh Cleveland - Jones, Sean FS 6-1 212 Georgia New Orleans- Watson, Courtney ILB 6-1 237 Notre Dame Kansas City - Wilson, Kris TE 6-1 246 Pittsburgh Carolina - Colbert, Keary WR 5-10 193 Southern California New England - Hill, Marquise DE 6-6 297 Louisiana State Arizona - Dockett, Darnell DE 6-3 277 Florida State San Diego - Kaeding, Nate K 6-0 187 Iowa San Diego- Hardwick, Nick C 6-3 283 Purdue Oakland - Schweigert, Stuart FS 6-1 212 Purdue Indianapolis - Hartsock, Ben TE 6-3 264 Ohio State Indianapolis- Gardner, Gilbert OLB 6-1 229 Purdue Green Bay - Thomas, Joey CB 6-0 195 Montana State Tennessee- Starks, Randy DT 6-3 307 Maryland Green Bay - Washington, Donnell DT 6-5 323 Clemson Detroit -Smith, Keith CB 5-11 192 McNeese State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Opportunity cost - Players unavailable to Bills due to trade of 2nd round pick to Dallas... Oakland Grove, Jake C (converted to G) Seattle Boulware, Michael OLB (converted to SS) San Diego Kaeding, Nate K San Diego- Hardwick, Nick C 190612[/snapback] I would be very happy with any of these guys. But...we have to wait and see just how JP turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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