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Vinny4sum

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What's ponderous about it?

 

Those teams have stable ownership that's not on the verge of dying and selling the team to the highest bidder.

 

Wilson could make a bunch of moves to ensure the team stays after his death, but he refuses to do it. That makes the Bills prime candidates to move after his death. Maybe there's a back-door deal in the works, but I simply cant imagine anyone investing $800 million for a team that cant sell out every game with one of the lowest avg ticket prices in the league.

 

Obviously there's teams in all sports with attendance and performance issues and the Bills have both. See the link that shows the Bills are 28th in average home attendance so far this year and it aint going to get any better. This team is in big trouble on all fronts. BTW, the Bucs are 31st and CIN 16th. While there's countless talk on the web of the Bills leaving, there's practically no talk about either CIN or TB possibly leaving. There's nothing to ponder here.

 

You've been on the board long enough. I'm surprised you'd make a comment like this.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, check that. The Bills are 24th in avg home attendance. Still not good and the people on this thread seem to think we have good attendance. We dont.

 

Off your link the below is an exerpt of the attendence rankings, and IMO there is some flawed data

 

 

rank team games total avg attendce %

15 NY Giants 8 629,615 78,701 98.1

16 Cincinnati 8 512,032 64,004 97.7

17 Pittsburgh 8 507,882 63,485 97.7

18 Green Bay 8 565,666 70,708 97.0

19 New Orleans 8 560,840 70,105 96.1

20 NY Jets 8 616,420 77,052 96.0

21 Tampa Bay 7 440,940 62,991 96.0

22 Buffalo 7 490,898 70,128 95.9

23 Atlanta 8 545,389 68,173 95.7

24 San Diego 8 540,345 67,543 94.7

25 Cleveland 8 551,110 68,888 94.1

26 Washington 8 678,352 84,794 92.5

27 Miami 8 540,342 67,542 89.8

 

As you can see they are just ranking this by % of either seats filled or tickets sold (i cant determine which from the article) but not overall attendence at all. The Bills are only ranked as having 7 home games so i'm also not certain how the "toronto home game" factors or, or if it is ignored.

 

but regardless the Bills have a higher attendence than most teams and our product has sucked for a decade.

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To defend PTR, it took an 0-8 start to bring us down from 7th in overall attendance (look for 2008, 2009 results on your Web site you mention) to 24th; we filled the stadium last year and the year before with record season ticket sales, despite not having made the playoffs since 1999. Though being much larger in market size and moving into new digs, Detroit (a similarly snake-bitten team) has had a rough time selling out for that exact reason - a terrible team. Controlling for a God-awful record, our attendance problems can be explained away this year. Had we had attendance issues with even a respectable record (like St. Louis Cincy, Tampa Bay or San Diego; some of these have been mentioned above already), then I'd listen to your argument about attendance.

 

If anything, I agree with the "lack of a succession" plan argument.

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