Luxy312
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Just now, LeviF91 said:
Well educate us already, what do these things say about workplace codes of conduct at private companies?
They (of course) say nothing. Just another straw man fallacy.
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4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
You're still an idiot.
Go read a brief history of the USA, the constitution, and the Bill of Rights, and report back.
PS: Would love to know your age level, educational level, income level, and net worth level.
I suspect all are low.DC Tom says: You're all idiots.
Ad hominem fallacies (your apparent argumentative style of choice) are just another failure on the debate front. Would suggest you go look that up as well.
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Just now, Fadingpain said:
You're still an idiot.
Go read a brief history of the USA, the constitution, and the Bill of Rights, and report back.
PS: Would love to know your age level, educational level, income level, and net worth level.
I suspect all are low.I suspect that you know nothing and are wrong on a number of levels. I would never tell you my income level and net worth. I will tell you that I will be able to retire at the age of 52 if I so choose. Life will be gravy afterward. PS - name calling makes you sound like the idiot, not me. Keep it up dipshit.
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Just now, Fadingpain said:
On behalf of DC TOM:
You're an idiot.
Good job making no argumentative points at all. Don't stop wearing your soft helmet!
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It's not "love it or leave it". It's a condition of employment. I'm sorry you can't grasp this simple concept.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
Why even play the anthem before sporting events? It doesn't happen in any other professional endeavor.
Another completely different argument and straw man fallacy.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
It's a false choice the way I see it.
Then anyone who's employed has false choice. They're not in any unique situation at all, any more than the rest of Americans.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
IMO forcing players to stand for the anthem as display of Patriotism that the NFL gets paid for in stadia funded by taxpayer dollars before the games begin is deeply ironic.
They're not. They can stay in the locker room with no consequence. Try again.
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The other guy said "dumbell"? while gesturing for it and Richie took it personally. LOL.
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4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Kneeling, raising a fist, or locking arms in protest is being an !@#$? Your Hitler T-shirt example is a ridiculous comparison.
HAH! But comparing the NFL to North Korea and the American Revolution is just fine. OMG....laughing out loud.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
The same principles of freedom apply whether you comprehend or not.
Their freedom isn't taken away. What part of that are you not grasping? I have the freedom to protest whatever I want on my time. My employer prohibits me from political actions during the time that I'm working at my place of employment (in the office or at a client site). I'm prohibited from associating my employer with any political position. Your failure to grasp the reality of the situation is mind numbing to say the least. Equating the NFL to North Korea or the American Revolution is beyond ridiculous and so off point. Straw man on Corner as I'm done with this level of stupid.
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23 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:
I think the ref would dive in front of Tom to save him.
It's possible that the ref could already be....EHM.....kneeling in front of him.
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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
America was founded on protest. Maybe The Founders should have just accepted King George's Edicts or just left the Colonies for greener pastures. You still don't get it with your anti-American love it or leave it.
I get it just fine. You keep adding straw man fallacies, which do nothing to prove your point. Look it up and try to understand what you're doing. Comparing standing for a national anthem to the American Revolution is beyond low brow.
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What a lot of other people have already said. The Bills don't know what they have in McCarron, Allen, or Peterman. They won't really know much until they get into the preseason games. Worst case for Peterman, he gets cut before the start of the season. Best case, IMO, is that he backs up whomever is the starter. As a team, you don't go out into the free agent market and sign a guy and then follow that up with moving up in the draft for a QB if you think that the guy that was already on your roster is the starter. Right now, all of the QB's are getting throws with first team offense, but McCarron is getting the lion's share. That should tell us something.
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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Nice attempt to avoid answering your love it or leave it argument that doesn't add up to the principles of being an American.
People can't leave North Korea straw-man-blitz.
This thread is overplayed. Moving on. LOL.
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If there's no playoffs this year, I simply want to see some optimism at the QB position. I don't care who it is. Give me a Peyton Manning rookie season of 26 TD's and 28 INT's. If there's some hint of promise of having a franchise guy, I'll take it.
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Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:
And if one is upset with the police then protest in front of police stations.
Exactly. Make your point in a forum that's appropriate to make your point.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
You're 180 degrees out of step with what being an American means. Your stance is more in tune with North Korea.
Nope. Stating the obvious is all. Nice attempt at a straw man there by you, but that's all it is.
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Just now, TheTruthHurts said:
They can also kneel on the field. Depends how much their cause means to them.
Then there's this, which is 100% accurate. The players can do whatever the hell they want. Stay in the locker room and kneel. Bow and pray or do a jig while it's being played. Perfectly free to choose to not be on the field.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
Any forced show of "Patriotism" is political IMO.
Agree to disagree. It's been part of these games for the 47 years that I've been alive. More tradition than "forced patriotism". I would suggest that anyone that doesn't like being an American is free to leave and not be an American. There's no one forcing any of us to live here.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
Playing the anthem and forcing the players to stand for it is political.
It's nationalistic, not political. What exactly is political about it in your opinion?
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
Do they play the national Anthem at your place of employment and force you to stand before you begin your work day?
Nope. But if it was a condition of employment, I would do it or find another job. It's really not all that complicated to me. I am specifically prohibited with associating my company's name with ANYTHING political without their express approval. It is a condition of employment and the remedy for noncompliance is termination.
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26 minutes ago, Yeezus said:
what does forcing your players to stand for the national anthem have to do with "playing football" ?
stop doing mental gymnastics to try and defend this. it's actually embarrassing
There's no "mental gymnastics" that have to be done, unless you're a mental midget. They stand in every other major sport. They stand at the Olympics. The NBA forces players to stand as well. What's embarrassing are the idiots that think that players can use a business that they don't own to make it a platform for their political agendas. My employment agreement with my employer specifically prohibits it and now the NFL's does as well. Really quite simple.
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Just now, Yeezus said:
what does forcing your players to stand for the national anthem have to do with "playing football" ?
The NFL is in the business of playing football and the anthem is played before every game. Players "taking a knee" turned people away last year. There's zero debate on that issue. People turning off the TV and not watching because a player wants to take some political position on TV is an economic issue. Now it's fixed. Players can be fined by their teams if they do kneel. Done.
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An end to Anthem protests? [UPDATE - Augmented by new Anthem Policy]
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Nope. From what I've read so far (and I will caveat that it's very minimal), the option to fine players will be team options, no NFL enforced sanctions or fines. Teams have the option to fine or not fine.