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  1. On 10/16/2020 at 9:58 AM, The Frankish Reich said:

    No denying I'm new to PPP. I don't think I ever posted here until this summer.

    My understanding is that it started out with a diversity of opinions and what we could call spirited arguments.

    More recently it became dominated by posters of a certain political philosophy or mindset. Those with different opinions were considered interlopers and typically were shot down. In other words, over time PPP began to function not as an open forum, but as a club -- effectively invitation only because disagreement was not tolerated.

    If it is a club in practice, then it might as well become a club in name and in structure. 

    Me? I have no interest in communicating only with people who think like me. So I have no interest in a club.

     

    You admit that you are new to PPP,  by are claiming that "recently" this forum became dominated by posters of a particular mindset?  I'll agree with you on the latter, but not for the reasons you're thinking.   If you want to communicate, a bit of introspection is helpful.

     

    Again, this place has been in existence for 20+ years.  Most of the people who were banned over the years were not liberals.

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  2. 9 hours ago, SDS said:

     

    I know...

     

    We are still here... 22 years later. Everyone has always been welcome regardless where you came from, BBI, BZ, BBMB, wherever.

     

    This encapsulates the answer you're looking for, as well as other posts in various threads, specifically Former's spotlight vs floodlight analogy.

     

    You should also ask yourself why have you been brought into this corner of the site that you've historically avoided, and are trying to figure out what happened.

     

    So in summary, this place has existed (with bumps along the way) for 20+ years, and has developed a pretty decent system of raw survival of the fittest posting style.  The rules were pretty simple - open dialogue and rude exchanges were common, but among people with tough skins.  There's a reason many people don't like to visit these lands, because to many, the discourse is too rough.  Those people stayed away, and left the proverbial jailhouse yard to the inmates.  

     

    Things changed at the start of the year with an influx of people who were intent on taking the site down.  I argued they were bots, you disagreed.  But that's really immaterial to these posters' agenda.  They don't come here to converse.  They come to disrupt.  That has also happened before, but the self-policing that's existed here over the decades drove them away.  The other major difference this time is a handful of new whiners who openly state that they don't like this site, despite continuing to post, and run to mommy for help. 

     

    Yeah, Greggy stepped over the line.  But that's like flagging Jerry Hughes for a visible personal foul, but ignoring his facemask being pulled for the 10 previous plays.

     

    That's why you were called into this mess, when you have more pressing things.

     

    So to recap - why did this site suddenly become an issue over the last 6 months, when it's handled its own issues pretty well before?   Is it really the posters who've been a consistent presence here for years, decades?    

     

    Answering these questions honestly will go a long way to getting the solution that you seek. 

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  3. 21 hours ago, SoTier said:

     

    Soooo ... another one bites the dust????    Who knew that a few lefties (ie, anybody left of the Trump nutwing of the GOP) could wreak such havoc on the petty tyrants entrenched on PPP?  

     

    Except that the new bots had nothing to do with building up this board over 20 years, and everything to do with blowing it up in 6 momths.

     

    This is a microcosm of the socialist rhetoric, thinking that things just appear out of nowhere, and tearing thing down will lead to a better outcome, even after you chase away people who build things.  Enjoy your victory.

     

    Bye bye.  

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  4. 18 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:


    The site has rules. Yes even here in what some people call the cesspool

     

    if you continue to disobey TOS 

     

    you reap what you sow. 
     

    I like DR but that’s not the point now is it. 

     

    The TOS also include terms that the new bots have repeatedly ignored, yet they're all still here in force.

     

    No, thanks.   It's been a great ride.

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  5. 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

    I've already defined them for you. Feel free to counter.

     

    You didn't define them.  You threw out pseudo definitions, qualified with fake strawmen.   Classic liberalism is still wrapped around individual rights, protecting private property, intellectual and religious freedoms.  Now tell m how Shapiro and Prager, or most people on the right here don't fall under that definition?   

     

    Calling for the state to step in and to enforce these tenets which are fundamental to the founding of the Republic, which are under attack from the lunatic leftist fringe, does not somehow turn one into a fascist or the perverted definition of alt-right.  Alt-right is a rebadging of white supremacy, which is not the same as defending the freedoms that are granted by US laws. 

  6. 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

    In my experience there's not very many of those types of conservatives left. The media has nearly nothing to do with it. It's all personal experience.

    The classic conservatives I know would have never defended a government agency throwing people in the back of a van without a warrant and detaining them at hidden locations without charges. They also wouldn't have defended police breaking into a woman's home an murdering her in the middle of the night. In fact, they still don't. They believed first and foremost in liberty and that government was a necessary evil.

    The alt-right is willing to forego their liberties as long as it hurts people they view as enemies. Except masks for some reason Masks are where the tyranny starts apparently.

     

    There was a true alt-right poster here who got banned.  He wasn't in the same universe as the long-standing conservatives here.  You realize you're proving our point, since Ben Shapiro and Denis Prager are categorized as alt-right by the media.  As I said before, the media now lumps in anyone who supports the theories of classic Western Civ, Enlightenment and Reformation as alt-right.  That's outright bonkers.

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  7. Just now, BullBuchanan said:

    No, not at all. They didn't use to support authoritarian police, forced sterilization and other abuse of border officials, selling out our country to other nations, sexual abusers, etc.

    They used to have morals and a conscience. I still do.

     

    I'm sure they don't use false strawmen to argue their positions either.

     

    I'm guessing is that they don't have a repulsive reaction whenever they see Trump, so to you they're alt-right, despite not changing one bit.

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