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...and I'm sure folks here will help me to understand better:
People talk about Justice being a hot prospect at LT, maybe not quite as good as Ferguson, but excellent nonetheless. But just not at the #8 position.
People talk about Bunkley being at least as good, if not better, than Ngata. But Ngata's okay at the #8 position, but Bunkley isn't.
Why? I understand that we could probably get these players if we moved down a few spots in the draft, but that requires (a) another team that is willing to trade spots with us, and (b) nobody else picking the player before he gets to us at the lower spot.
What if nobody else wants to trade up with us? If the guy grades well and fills a big hole, what's so bad about taking him a few spots higher than he might otherwise go?
Well I am one of those people in my mock draft who suggests picking Huff, partially because he is "worth" the #8.
I think if comes down to how much you value a guy like Huff (or V. Davis, or whomever) and still feel that it is a hole on our team.
We all agree the lines are holes but I happen to think a difference-making safety is important too (ala Ed Reed in Balt. for example).
As another example I don't particularly think TE is a huge hole because I believe Everett should be given a chance and Royal will be out there a lot for blocking as almost another tackle. So when others suggest that V. Davis should be taken, I tend to not agree.
All that said, I believe in Marv's evaluation and if he picks Bunkley, Ngata or Justice, I will still be happy that we filled a hole I just will also be watching Huff's career because I think we will have missed out on something special.
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I can appreciate that but my e v a l is from a value standpoint Huff is the one worth the #8. I would have no problem if we get to #8 and Cutler, Huff, Ngata, Bunkley and Justice are all there that we might trade down to someone who wants Cutler (Ravens?) and then still hope to get one of the above.
If it were, say, the Browns, that would put us at #12 with another pick and it might go something like
8 Cutler Browns
9 Huff Lions
10 Ngata Cards
11 CB Rams
12 Then sitting here at 12 we still have a choice between say Justice and Bunkley
This is guesswork of course but the point is that if all of those players are available at #8 then we could trade to somewhere between 11 and 14 and probably still get one. It's taking a chance but possibly worth the extra pick.
If we stay at 8 I think it's Huff.
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This draft was done mixing the Bills' needs with the value board here:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5449026
1 Michael Huff, S, Texas
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...ichaelhuff.html
I believe Marv wants Huff. I think he wants to start with a player with no character, off the field or injury issues. Also, I think Huff is the only player who truly grades out in the top 8 out of Justice, Ngata, Bunkley, etc.
2 Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...audewroten.html
Of course I agree with all others that we need to work on the lines, and having drafted a safety with my first pick I have some catch up to do in the next few rounds. I start here with a top DT.
3a Jonathon Scott, OT Texas
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...athanscott.html
Potential to land a LT prospect much later in the draft rather than over spending for Justice in the first round.
3b John McCargo, DT NC State
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...ohnmccargo.html
We must land a starting DT in this draft. Between McCargo and Wroten, we set up that competition that Marv loves along with T. Anderson to start next to Tripplett.
4 Daryl Tapp, DE Virginia Tech
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...darryltapp.html
Pass rushing specialist that may later develop into a starting DE. Tired of not being able to get to the QB on third down.
5a Fred Matua, OG USC
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr.../fredmatua.html
I know I waited too long to pick a Guard but maybe Aaron Gibson will pan out.
5b David Pittman, CB Nortwestern St.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...vidpittman.html
Tim McGee-like, same school and everything!
6 Brad Smith, RB/WR Missouri
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr.../bradsmith.html
My feeling is that at this stage of the draft if you can get an athlete like this, you take it. Played QB in college, listed as a WR, but my idea is to make him a backup RB. Of course we can also use him on various trick plays and he can split out wide as well after some coaching.
7a Damarius Bilbo, WR, Georgia Tech
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...ariusbilbo.html
Again, by the 7th round I am looking for potential
7b Robin Meadow, OG Washington
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...obinmeadow.html
Line depth or maybe camp fodder - worth a shot with our compensatory pick.
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Just thinking out loud about how some of the QB movement around the league might affect the Bills bringing in someone to compete for the job...now that Frerotte has signed with the Rams, I wonder if they might someday cut loose Ryan Fitzpatrick (former Harvard QB).
Given the connections to the Ivy league and Fairchild, I would think the Bills would scoop him up. I know odds are he will be the Rams' 3rd QB, behind Bulger and Frerotte, but it's worth some thought...in fact if we lose out on Wells, it might even be worth a late round pick in a trade if Fairchild believes in the kid and he fits the new offense well.
The other place I was looking was the Lions. With the recent signing of McCown, they now have 5 QBs on the roster:
McCown
Kitna
Shaun King
Harrington
Dan Orlovsky
We know Harrington is gone, and we also know we don't want him, and think we know that Jauron doesn't want him either, given he generally played Garcia over him when he was there. But what aobut King and Orlovsky (particularly Orlovsky)? If the Lions keep 3 Qbs, one of them is going to get cut, and Jauron might find Orlovsky interesting. I thought he showed some flashes last year for a rookie.
NOTE: I am a JP supporter; think he deserves another chance, but it never hurts to bring in some competition with upside.
Thoughts?
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I have thought this, as a Bills fan, for a long time. Face it, we are not one of the teams the NFL has on it's list of "make sure they get there if possible".
I agree with an earlier post...the games are not "fixed" so much as "pushed" to an outcome if possible. Sometimes, the other team plays so well that this pushing by the refs does not help, but in a game like last night you see how apparent it is.
What I always tell my buddies when I claim this theory is...think about the NFL...how everything is planned to the minutest detail and how well run the whole league is, how "managed" everthing is...then you realize it is actually LESS likely that the games would not be pushed in this way.
It's all about the $$$ with the NFL, and pushing the games is a part of that too
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The Atlanta paper is reporting this morning that Falcons DB Coach Brett Maxie has been given permission to interview with the Bills for Defensive Coordinator
???
Is Jerry Gray gone or not?
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Here's an interesting OT prospect that we might be able to nab in the 5th or 6th because of injury concerns. It's a gamble but I've seen him play and without the injury he should have gone already.
Wesley Britt
T, Alabama
War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a leader who loves the game and works hard on and off the field. Is one of the best run-blocking tackles in this class. Takes excellent angles, and shows explosive initial pop. Plays with a mean streak. Uses large wingspan well in pass protection.
Weaknesses: Durability is a big concern because of a hairline leg fracture during Senior Bowl practice. It's the same leg into which doctors inserted a permanent rod and two screws into his tibia in October 2003. Must add bulk and lower-body strength. Lacks great technique in pass protection. Must learn to use hands more effectively and play with more consistent leverage. Must improve footwork when moving laterally. Lacks quickness.
Bottom line: Britt has a chance to be a solid NFL lineman. He was downgraded for medical reasons but is an interesting prospect. Expect him to go in the early third round but it is possible he will rise into the late second round in the days leading up to the draft.
Dan Pompei analysis
Is a big left tackle pass-protecting prospect with long levers. Uses hands well. Shows good footwork and can slide. Is both smart and tough. Needs to get stronger and play with better leverage. Bends his waist a bit too much
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Doesn't make sense to me. McCareins and Burress are the same WR. They already wasted money on McCareins last year, why spend more on the same position this year.
To me this is good because their D is getting decimated and their WR corps isn't much better than it was last year, except maybe when they put three WR on the field. Maybe they are planning on doing that more this year.
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I really think Edge is going to end up with the Dolphins. I have thought that all along. Don't think the Colts are going to be interested in Henry - I think if they lose Edge they will spend the money on D and see if Rhodes can carry it.
Therefore I think the best bet of trading Henry is with the Cardinals. Now that it sounds like Emmitt is retiring, I think Dennis Green might step up efforts to deal with the Bills.
Agree?
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Good point. I see a signing on the OL this year as personally I think we will keep Williams but not Jennings.
Jennings is a lot like Price was - in fact living down here in Atlanta I have heard him on local radio shows more than once sounding like he already plays for the Falcons because I think he wants to come back down here (he's from GA)
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Seeing a lot of talk about FA's already thought I would post this from The Sporting News. Their War Room gives a lot of info on Free Agents and the Draft in the offseason and I subscribe because I like to do my own research on what the Bills should do.
Anyway, this is their list of "Super 99" free agents. Not sure how baked this is this early in the offseason but I was surprised that Williams and Jennings did not make the list.
The grades are similar to what they use for the draft (see "8.9" for Walter Jones)
1 Walter Jones OT 6-5 315 8.9 Unrestricted Seattle
2 Shaun Alexander RB 5-11 225 8.7 Unrestricted Seattle
3 Orlando Pace OT 6-7 325 8.6 Unrestricted St. Louis
4 Edgerrin James RB 6-0 214 8.4 Unrestricted Indianapolis
5 Plaxico Burress WR 6-5 226 8.3 Unrestricted Pittsburgh
6 Matt Hasselbeck QB 6-4 223 7.9 Unrestricted Seattle
7 Julian Peterson LB 6-3 235 7.8 Unrestricted San Francisco
8 Kendrell Bell LB 6-1 257 7.7 Unrestricted Pittsburgh
9 Drew Brees QB 6-0 209 6.8 Unrestricted San Diego
10 Charles Woodson CB 6-1 200 7.6 Unrestricted Oakland
11 Donovin Darius S 6-1 225 7.6 Unrestricted Jacksonville
12 Andra Davis LB 6-1 255 7.6 Restricted Cleveland
13 Brian Westbrook RB 5-10 205 7.6 Restricted Philadelphia
14 John Abraham DE 6-4 256 7.4 Unrestricted NY Jets
15 Bubba Franks TE 6-6 265 7.4 Unrestricted Green Bay
16 Gary Baxter CB 6-2 215 7.4 Unrestricted Baltimore
17 Corey Simon DT 6-2 293 7.4 Unrestricted Philadelphia
18 Edgerton Hartwell LB 6-1 250 7.4 Unrestricted Baltimore
19 Chike Okeafor DE 6-4 265 7.4 Unrestricted Seattle
20 Rich Braham C 6-4 305 7.4 Unrestricted Cincinnati
Rk. Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Grade FA type 2004 team 2005 team
21 Rudi Johnson RB 5-10 220 7.1 Unrestricted Cincinnati
22 Ken Lucas CB 6-0 205 7.0 Unrestricted Seattle
23 Lenny Walls 6-4 192 7.0 Restricted Denver
24 Jason Ferguson NT 6-3 305 7.0 Unrestricted NY Jets
25 Jermane Mayberry G 6-4 325 7.0 Unrestricted Philadelphia
26 Joe Andruzzi G 6-3 312 7.0 Unrestricted New England
27 David Dixon G 6-5 343 7.0 Unrestricted Minnesota
28 Chris Gray G 6-4 308 7.0 Unrestricted Seattle
29 Mark Fields LB 6-2 244 7.0 Unrestricted Carolina
30 Rocky Calmus LB 6-3 238 7.0 Restricted Tennessee
31 Chris Claiborne LB 6-3 259 7.0 Unrestricted Minnesota
32 Morlon Greenwood LB 6-0 238 7.0 Unrestricted Miami
33 Warrick Holdman LB 6-1 235 7.0 Unrestricted Cleveland
34 Correll Buckhalter RB 6-0 222 7.0 Unrestricted Philadelphia
35 Najeh Davenport RB 6-1 250 7.0 Restricted Green Bay
36 LaMont Jordan RB 5-10 230 7.0 Unrestricted NY Jets
37 Jon Ritchie RB 6-2 250 7.0 Unrestricted Philadelphia
38 Kenoy Kennedy S 6-1 215 7.0 Unrestricted Denver
39 Adrian Wilson CB 6-3 222 7.0 Unrestricted Arizona
40 Mike Gandy G 6-4 310 7.0 Street Chicago
Rk. Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Grade FA type 2004 team 2005 team
41 Freddie Jones TE 6-4 265 7.0 Unrestricted Arizona
42 Stephen Alexander TE 6-4 250 7.0 Unrestricted Detroit
43 Eric Johnson CB 6-0 210 7.0 Unrestricted Atlanta
44 Chad Lewis TE 6-6 252 7.0 Unrestricted Philadelphia
45 David Givens WR 6-0 215 7.0 Restricted New England
46 Joey Galloway WR 5-11 197 7.0 Unrestricted Tampa Bay
47 Ben Hamilton C 6-4 283 7.0 Unrestricted Denver
48 Justin Hartwig G 6-4 305 7.0 Restricted Tennessee
49 Andre Dyson CB 5-10 183 7.0 Unrestricted Tennessee
50 Fred Smoot CB 5-11 174 7.0 Unrestricted Washington
51 Nick Harper CB 5-10 182 6.9 Unrestricted Indianapolis
52 Jarvis Green DE 6-3 290 6.9 Restricted New England
53 Aaron Kampman DT 6-4 284 6.9 Restricted Green Bay
54 Hugh Douglas DE 6-2 281 6.9 Unrestricted Philadelphia
55 Reggie Hayward DE 6-5 270 6.9 Unrestricted Denver
56 Tony Williams DT 6-2 296 6.9 Unrestricted Cincinnati
57 Marcus Bell DT 6-2 339 6.9 Unrestricted Detroit
58 Seth Payne DT 6-4 315 6.9 Unrestricted Houston
59 Bryan Robinson DE 6-4 296 6.9 Unrestricted Miami
60 Daleroy Stewart DT 6-4 298 6.9 Restricted San Francisco
Rk. Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Grade FA type 2004 team 2005 team
61 Ryan Diem G 6-6 331 6.9 Unrestricted Indianapolis
62 Cosey Coleman G 6-4 322 6.9 Unrestricted Tampa Bay
63 Cooper Carlisle G 6-5 295 6.9 Unrestricted Denver
64 Casey Rabach C 6-4 301 6.9 Unrestricted Baltimore
65 Adam Vinatieri K 6-0 202 6.9 Unrestricted New England
66 Akin Ayodele DE 6-2 251 6.9 Restricted Jacksonville
67 Scott Fujita LB 6-5 250 6.9 Restricted Kansas City
68 Jason Gildon LB 6-4 255 6.9 Unrestricted Jacksonville
69 Will Witherspoon LB 6-1 231 6.9 Restricted Carolina
70 Kevin Bentley LB 6-1 240 6.9 Restricted Cleveland
71 Torrance Marshall LB 6-2 255 6.9 Unrestricted Green Bay
72 David Thornton LB 6-2 230 6.9 Restricted Indianapolis
73 Quincy Carter QB 6-2 213 6.9 Unrestricted NY Jets
74 Josh McCown QB 6-4 212 6.9 Restricted Arizona
75 Vinny Testaverde QB 6-5 233 6.9 Unrestricted Dallas
76 Kurt Warner QB 6-2 200 6.9 Unrestricted NY Giants
77 Eddie George RB 6-3 235 6.9 Unrestricted Dallas
78 Garrison Hearst RB 5-11 215 6.9 Unrestricted Denver
79 Travis Minor RB 5-10 205 6.9 Unrestricted Miami
80 Dominic Rhodes RB 5-9 203 6.9 Unrestricted Indianapolis
Rk. Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Grade FA type 2004 team 2005 team
81 Anthony Thomas RB 6-2 225 6.9 Unrestricted Chicago
82 Sammy Knight S 6-0 215 6.9 Unrestricted Miami
83 Marlon McCree S 5-11 202 6.9 Unrestricted Houston
84 Marques Anderson S 5-11 210 6.9 Restricted Oakland
85 Idrees Bashir S 6-2 198 6.9 Unrestricted Indianapolis
86 Zack Bronson S 6-1 204 6.9 Unrestricted St. Louis
87 Stockar McDougle G 6-6 335 6.9 Unrestricted Detroit
88 Ian Allen 6-4 310 6.9 Restricted Philadelphia
89 Tom Ashworth 6-6 305 6.9 Restricted New England
90 Itula Mili TE 6-4 260 6.8 Unrestricted Seattle
91 Tai Streets WR 6-3 207 6.8 Unrestricted Detroit
92 Corey Bradford WR 6-1 201 6.8 Unrestricted Houston
93 Charles Lee WR 6-3 227 6.8 Unrestricted Tampa Bay
94 Robbie Tobeck C 6-4 297 6.8 Unrestricted Seattle
95 Brian Williams 5-11 198 6.8 Restricted Minnesota
96 Rashad Bauman 5-8 184 6.8 Restricted Cincinnati
97 Ken Dilger TE 6-5 250 6.8 Unrestricted Tampa Bay
98 Derrick Burgess DE 6-2 266 6.8 Unrestricted Philadelphia
99 Rick DeMulling G 6-4 304 7.1 Unrestricted Indianapolis
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Thanks to everyone who sent me some info. I really appreciate it.
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All,
I have not posted in a while...I am a huge Bills fan living in Atlanta with a sister still in Buffalo.
Long story short...her scumbag husband is cheating on her and I need to help her get everything she can in the divorce. Have you been through divorces? Anyone have a really good lawyer in the Buffalo area to recommend? Or even one to recommend staying away from?
Any info is appreciated...she is heartbroken right now.
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I disagree on Wells - this would be a good pickup, IMO. He strikes me as similar to Nick Goings on Carolina - keeps getting pushed down on the depth chart but when he gets in the game he fills in admirably or in some cases even outperforms the starter. I would be more comfortable with him as backup than some rookie drafted in rounds 5-7 or S. Williams, as long as he comes at the right price of course.