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Benjamin Franklin

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  1. 23 minutes ago, GG said:

    There's a lot of real estate in between thinking there was an organized plot to take down a duly elected President and believing in a global canal that controls the world.  

     

    You're sane so I'll give one last note on this. In this thread over 2 years ago, I stated that I didn't think Trump was in cahoots with the Russians. OGT can get excited about the thread title that reflected a news story, but I was saying back then I didn't think he was in business with Putin. And I'm happy he's not. I hate some things about Trump. I love some things about Trump. I loathe the frenzy that TDS has created...and that Q-balls are generating on the opposite site. 

     

    A TDS Trump-Russia conspiracy movement run amok took off in the media. Stzrok was maybe the best example of the mindset because we got to see his human side in his loverboy texts. Was he part of a global conspiracy or a Trump-hating bad actor who followed his TDS bias? Was Comey part of a conspiracy, or a terrible FBI director with an awful boss who was doing unprecedented (in a bad way) things to influence independent investigations? I see humans doing criminal--or borderline criminal--things, and a president who was playing loose with his tongue and the law. The TDS is greatly disturbing and goes to show what groupthink can do to people. 

     

    Seacrest out. 

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  2. 19 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

    I may have to remake my screen name to "Gregg Williams Pressure"

     

    That's just too good.

     

     

    I will go with Rex-Genius. 

     

    Allen vs Darnold will be fun to watch develop. But last year’s Bills offense had one starting lineman in common with this year’s (and the guys who are gone are either bagging groceries or will be soon). Same with WRs. If the offense isn’t significantly better, I will be shocked. 

  3. 7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

    It was it the news and it was very obviously a hoax.  You entitled the thread, not me or anyone else.  You never supported the Trump/Russia theory?

     

    You created a thread called "Trump and Russia.".  Why not "Trump and Russia?"?  Why not "Russian Meddling"?

     

     

     

    Russia and Trump was something called "news" that 1 or 2 people were discussing. 

     

    You were more sensible as Crayonz. 

  4. 13 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

    Its hard to prove long diatribes with no specifics wrong.  You point that out in the Q thread often.  In the above you are more than willing to accept them or at least demand proof of a negative.

     

    You chose a title for this thread.  Even if the above is all true and more than a Facebook page with a Jesus v Satan epic arm wrestling throw down; why would you have chosen that title?

     

    Why not:

     

    Truman

    Dewey

    Kennedy

    Johnson

    Nixon

    Ford 

    Carter

    Reagan

    Bush

    Clinton

    Bush

    Obama

    Trump and Russia?

     

    Even you can acknowledge that the Trump/Russia story was in the news once or twice, eh? I started this thread as noted because it was leaking into a bunch of others and thought we should capture it in one place. 

     

    You’d not find much in my posting history to support Trump-Russia TDS. 

     

     

  5. This is the IC Report we were debating back then. You look pretty stupid stating that it was “wrong on every page.” 

     

    Its conclusions were:

     

    Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.


     Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.


     We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data  obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.


     Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.


     Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.


    We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

     

    Now I know you’re all excited to Deep State ***** about Guccifer 2.0 but setting your Q-theories aside, what of the above has been proven “wrong on ever page” you moran?

     

    Stick to the ICA since that’s all we discussed in 2017 with respect to trusting their conclusions. I never said anything about Steele. I never said Trump colluded. Stick to your point and try not to go all-Illuminati fiction narrative. Or here, I’ll do it for you. 

     

    The report was right. 

     

    [org-azm is censored? Damn Russians. Wolverine!]

  6. 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

    that is a ridiculous clip, and i do mean ridiculous. 

     

    1) Fox and Friends..cmon DR be like me citing TBD as a bastion of Objectivity when it comes to the Pats. If that's the best ya got, case closed

    2) Bond yields here  .https://www.cnbc.com/bonds/....only one number but you tying up money for 10 years to get same return as 2 year?

    3) consumer confidence and spending was through the roof in 2007 too.....just remember you can never go broke fading the opinion of the public on just about anything

    4) you know who else was all in on the 2007 economy..the guy who is the top Economic advisor in all the land right now

    https://www.nationalreview.com/kudlows-money-politics/recession-debate-over-larry-kudlow/

    5 )having said that, lets hope it stays high( and thank god we hold Target) But i ain't gonna ignore warning signs that maybe CEOs are a bit ahead of the public on economic conditions

    6) we are not in a recession, what people fear is the some of the underlying numbers are not great and that is in a time where govt spending and the deficit ate exploding, usually not two things associated with a great economy. The numbers are the numbers..i just fail to understand how numbers can be biased. 

    7) If you believe Trump truly understand the economy and has your best interests at heart, than you have to accept the notion that he is also worried about some key economic indicators right now .He freely admitted this week his trade policies could lead to a recession, and that the administration has discussed payroll tax cuts...so is he nuts too and just leading a charge of pessimism?

     

     

    On this debate it is truly shocking to see the Cult of Trump come to the forefront. Economic numbers do not lie. Deficit, GDP, Yield Curves, consumer spending, Capital Investment, inventories, etc are real numbers..plain and simple. Some of them are positive now, some are negative. But in the Cult of Trump..all positive numbers can be attributed to Trump and his mastery of the economy, all negative numbers are a media hoax designed to stone the chosen one.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Everything is part of the conspiracy. Duh.  

     

    This is his world that he posts about incessantly on a football message board. 

  7. 4 hours ago, GG said:

     

    There's far greater instances of you changing the plot line than Greggy, evidenced by above.

     

    The entire premise of using a Watergate quote is to tie a President to an alleged crime.  If you are now saying that it was an innocuous quote, you're being disingenuous.  You started the thread right at the beginning of the Trump Russia collusion hysteria, meaning there's intent to use that specific quote in that context at that time.

      

    After 2.5 years, it's a big fat, never mind.  Don't worry about Trump, look at the Facebook ads and unsubstantiated news bout some rigged voting machines.

     

    Don't be dense. I didn’t joint the hang Trump brigade. I just started the thread and enjoyed the early rounds. Then it spun out of control with the TDS people spinning it up. 

     

    And I agree that it’s a big fat never mind regarding Trump. It is not a big fat never mind regarding Russia. 

  8. 1 hour ago, Hedge said:

     

    True story. Now i'm going to log back over and delete the Trump and Russia thread.

     

    Tempting just to amuse myself with all the conspiracy nonsense about me being McGee but the Prom King is in there saying that the Intel community was wrong in concluding Russia interfered in our election so it’s worth leaving up. 

  9. 23 minutes ago, GG said:

     

    And in the intervening 2.5 years facts have come out that blew the Watergate theory out of the water, yet you twist the narrative to make it seem $200k in fake FB ads is serious election meddling.

     

    You’d be taken more seriously if you were consistent and honest in your opinions.   Even Greggy admits to being wrong when facts don’t back his position.

     

    The Watergate line was the one I quoted. I didn’t say Trump was guilty. I wanted answers.  

     

    And we got them. The Russians did meddle and even hacked into voting machines. Greg said the intel agencies were wrong in that conclusion because he’s into his theory that they are Illuminati-run. Nothing to worry about that the Russians did that right?

     

    Trump didn't collude. That. Is. Good. For. America. 

     

    Greg doesn’t admit he’s wrong. He just rewrites the story. He thinks I’m McGee!

  10. 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

    Paragons of truth and virtue -- don't question them, they're "experts who know more than us". 

    BF

     

    Image result for clapper brennan comey

     

    You should quote BF in Indiana as me. Or Rich in Ohio. 

     

    Did you hear the one about Reggie Jackson in the elevator?

    1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

    "Hey, remember that time BF said we were honest and had no motive to lie? How funny was that, John?"

    Image result for clapper brennan comey

     

    Are you posting Illuminati yearbook photos?

  11. 45 minutes ago, GG said:

     

     

    Who wrote this, and does it have the same meaning as the quotes above?

     

     

    Let’s see: I took the Watergate quote and spun it for wanting info on Trump’s knowledge about it. We got those answers.

     

    And we also got lots of confirmation that the Russians actively worked to help get him elected, something you questioned because the intel community confirmed it, because “intel/Illuminati.” And of course we continue to ignore the discord they sow and can still sow. 

     

     

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