Stampede
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I'll share my feelings on February 12th.
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Didn't he just become OC for UB? If true,I guess when Joe becomes head coach DJ will move into the OC spot. Planning ahead? -
Have the happiest of birthdays Kim! Please know that YOU are truly missed and thought of EVERY day.
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This is ridiculous. He is a rookie OC. The only previous experience he has was for a high school team. With all the injuries, we're still 10 and 3, two losses of 3 points and one loss of 2 points. We've been in every game and could have been 13-0. What's needed is everyone healthy and solid play from the offensive line. It would be nice if they would make the offensive line the priority in the draft. Give Kromer some fresh young buffaloes.
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Wow, talk about being blessed by the football gods.
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2 hours ago, BillyBilliams said:
However, not recognizing that Josh was under duress the entire game and not going for short routes, instead opting for intermediate and deep routes (which were taken away) is something the coaching staff should have seen and adjusted to.
I agree with most everything you've said, but isn't this on Josh? Wasn't this the area where he showed improvement? Completing the underneath routes and taking what the defense was giving him? I'm hoping this is a wake-up call for the team (actually I thought the Miami loss would have been, oh well).
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I know this is going to rile 'some of you', but I don't understand why 'some of you' feel that Leslie is the reason for the defensive failure during the 13 seconds. How I see it: I recall McDermott admitting to taking over calling the defense when he felt a different approach was needed. I don't know how often he has done so. I remember, along with many others, yelling NO PREVENT DEFENSE during the 13 seconds. McDermott was there during the 13 seconds. Wouldn't that have been the perfect time for him to assume control? This was much more than a regular season game. Why didn't he do it? I can only think of two possibilities: 1-he supported the call; 2-he made the call. In either scenario, the final decision was his. Am I looking at this the wrong way? At any rate, it's time to move on from it. I never blamed Leslie, I think he is a great DC.
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1 hour ago, BeastMaster said:
It's all on the coaching...if you ask me.
I am not sold on McDermott as a championship caliber coach
Let's hope he proves that he is this season
Agree with you 100%. I also hope he improves his game day coaching.
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3 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:
HOWEVER, this team went only 11-6 last year, if not for the extra game we would have been 10-6, that's not good enough for a Super Bowl front runner.
The Rams were 12-5 if I'm not mistaken. I know they weren't THE front runner, but they were in the top 3-5 depending on where you looked.
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On 8/8/2022 at 7:53 AM, Mr. WEO said:
I'll stop there.
Come on....
Mr WEO, persistent, aren't we? That's cool, it's all good. This is not the route that was intended for this thread. As already said, I wasn't comparing careers, just curious as to how much of an improvement he could make with Von on the field. Anyway, I have to match your evidence, so here are mine. I searched 'best defensive tackles of all time'. These are the top 5 results if you care to check them out:
https://www.nfl.com/photos/gil-brandt-s-greatest-nfl-defensive-tackles-of-all-time-0ap3000000816301
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/25-greatest-defensive-linemen-nfl-history
https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/greatest-defensive-tackles-of-all-time
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1127942-the-top-10-defensive-tackles-in-nfl-history
https://www.fanrankings.com/nfl/articles/top-10-nfl-defensive-tackles-of-all-time-rankings
I'm hoping that Ed can put it all together and come out in full force beginning this season. He has the physical tools, hopefully he can improve on his mental game. I'm sure we are on the same page on that, yes? After all, he was projected to be a star according to NFL prospects: Aaron Donald Prospect Grade 5.90 / Ed Oliver Prospect Grade 6.80. Isn't that funny?
I forgot to add; he is only 24.
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On 8/5/2022 at 11:57 AM, Mr. WEO said:
" it was eye-opening when you consider the effect Von had on Aaron.
Here’s something to consider, though: Of Donald’s 86 pressures, 45 of them, as well as the 23 he piled up in four playoff games, came AFTER Miller arrived...Also, consider that Von was only with the Rams for just 12 games, if I'm correct."
This is right up there with the thread that tried to claim Josh Allen and Rob Johnson are essentially the same (doppelgangers!!).
It's OK to be a fan of Oliver, but after 3 years, there is no real comparison in their games.
So, you seriously believe that the parts that you bold prove that I or Sal made the claim that 'Miller somehow made Donald'? That Von Miller is responsible for the player that Aaron Donald has become? I went to the doppelgänger thread, I guess I missed where Einstein said that Allen and Johnson are essentially the same. This is what I read, and I quote the OP's opening line: 'Just watched this again on YouTube and had a good laugh. Its uncanny how similar some of the plays are.' It was my first time seeing it, and he was right, it is uncanny. I could be wrong, but I took the doppelgänger mention as tongue in cheek. I guess it all comes down to reading comprehension.
I forgot to mention, I'm not an Ed Oliver fan or a fan of any individual on this team. I'm a Buffalo Bills Fan.
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On 8/5/2022 at 8:42 AM, Mr. WEO said:
Donald was a Pro Bowler his rookie year. He has been an All PRo every year since. He is routinely described as the best DT ever.
'Routinely': often and regularly per vocabulary.com. Please do me a favor and search for this term or one that is similar: 'best defensive tackles of all time'. Let me know how often and regularly he is mentioned or described as the best DT ever.
But again, I never compared Ed's on the field accomplishments with Aaron's that would have been ludicrous. I just compared their physical attributes and workout results, nothing more.
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13 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:
I quoted what Von Miller said is his presser. I agree with him. If you don't, take it up with Von.
Fair enough, I apologize if you took umbrage at my comment. I did not mean it to be personal, but this is a fact and not just my opinion:
There is and will always be comparison. That's how we gauge the level of any athlete's (or actor, musician, artist, etc.) performance and improvement. Someone has to set the benchmark to which all participants are subject to.
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14 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Plus even suggesting that Miller somehow made Donald.
I'm sorry, I re-read every post in this thread and didn't find where it was suggested that 'Miller somehow made Donald'. Could you be so kind as to point out the specific post? I even re-read Sal's article and saw nothing that supports your statement.
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45 minutes ago, billybrew1 said:
I’d say the biggest difference between the two is that Donald always took to coaching and Ed did not. Being from a small school and not really liking his coaches and having tremendous success without coaching sealed the deal for Oliver who needed a couple years to realize how good the NFL is
I didn't realize this excellent point. I know he needed an attitude change. Listening to him after the draft, it was obvious he thought it would be business as usual.
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4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:
Like Von just said, Aaron is Aaron and Ed is Ed. Ed will make his own mark and no need to compare the 2.
Yes, Aaron is Aaron, and Ed is Ed, and Ed will make his mark. But there is and will always be comparison. That's how we gauge the level of any athlete's (or actor, musician, artist, etc.) performance and improvement. Someone has to set the benchmark to which all participants are subject to. However, my comparison was of their physical attributes only, to highlight that Aaron doesn't have an unfair advantage due to size or freak of nature strength.
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1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said:
Donald is all world and Oliver is still great but he can't match the physical gifts Donald has.
But see, that's one reason I looked at both of their combine/pro day workouts. They both are basically the same physically and in workout results. So technique and the fact that Ed has far less snap count have to be the biggest difference (along with coaching). Ed declared early, which does count against him. What I was getting at with this post is with the progress that Ed has been making in this defensive system, he should go completely ballistic this season. It's not like Aaron is 6 inches taller, 70 pounds heavier, and benched 45 reps. They are very much similar. If Ed stays healthy, gets more snaps, and continues to improve, he can be on the list of the greatest.
11 minutes ago, DCofNC said:Oliver is an average starter vs arguably the best player ever at his position.
I have to say that I may be way, way off. But I believe he is better than an average starter. He has the potential to become a star in the league. I could be wrong.
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I'm trying not to get too excited over what this defense could be. I just read the article about how Von Miller can elevate Ed's game, and it was eye-opening when you consider the effect Von had on Aaron. From the article, I thought this was quite telling:
Quote...among 49 tackles who played at least 50% of his team’s pass rush snaps, Oliver was 18th with 40 pressures. Now, that’s a far cry from Donald who led all tackles with a whopping 86 pressures, 19 more than No. 2 Jonathan Allen of the Commanders. But comparing Oliver to Donald, who is one of the best defensive players in the history of the NFL, is a bit unfair.
Here’s something to consider, though: Of Donald’s 86 pressures, 45 of them, as well as the 23 he piled up in four playoff games, came AFTER Miller arrived...Also, consider that Von was only with the Rams for just 12 games, if I'm correct. Plus, our defense is better than the Rams' with Von, IMO. Anyway, I compared the physical attributes of the two as a reminder of how similar they are. Some of Ed's numbers are from his pro day workout.
Ed Oliver Aaron Donald Height: 6 ft 1.5 in Height: 6 ft.75 in Weight: 287 lb Weight: 285 lb 40-yard dash:4.73 s 40-yard dash:4.68 s 10-yard split:1.63 s 10-yard split:1.63 s 20-yard split:2.78 s 20-yard split:2.69 s 20-yard shuttle:4.19 s 20-yard shuttle:4.39 s Three-cone drill:7.15 s Three-cone drill:7.11 s Vertical jump:36 in Vertical jump:32 in Broad jump:10 ft Broad jump:9 ft 8 in Bench press:32 reps Bench press:35 reps -
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Interesting segment, but I'm surprised that he isn't taking his diet seriously at all. Yes, he's only 25 and can do whatever he feels is most important, but still. He should sit down with Bruce Smith (unquestionably the GOAT) and listen to how his change of diet and making his physical health paramount, worked out for him. Josh can be THE true GOAT (which I believe he is) if he truly commits 100%.
Another thing that stood out to me, besides a lack of an appropriate diet, was his answer to a question about his mental state during the playoff game against the Chiefs. He said it was purely through trial and error that he could achieve the mental edge/focus in that game. He is trying to figure it out on his own, and I give him lots of credit for that. However, having a 'high performance' coach on his team would be so much more effective for his mental game.
I have to believe that between the training staff and Jordan Palmer, someone has brought diet and high performance coaching up, and he's not jumping on it. Maybe he's still in the 'college party' mind frame.
Josh is scary as he is — but I wonder if he knows just how terrifying he can be.
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I would like to see blue helmets, with the standing intimidating 'I'll kick your arse' buffalo.
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Didn't Marv Levy say (and I paraphrase): "If you blame the refs for losing you didn't deserve to win"?
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6 hours ago, SDS said:
Given that the team is branded themselves as the buffalo buffaloes, we should just go the Madonna/Sting route and just call ourselves Buffalo with no nickname.
Even as a child I couldn't understand why the team would want a name that is associated with someone who in reality slaughtered buffalo (bison). It's like accepting a self-imposed curse. I've always thought the team should go with no nickname so I agree. And let's have a real buffalo as a mascot like the University of Colorado and get rid of Billy! A real buffalo running onto the field to the rumble of the Stampede Drumline representing the strength of the city of Buffalo. AWSOME!
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i like EJ also and have hope that this new offense will showcase his talents but i would like to see Josh Freeman get a shot here as well...if he can be found; he's not even talked about as a free agent.
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these examples, combined with this young man's character, leadership, charisma, and work ethic have me very optimistic for his, and the team's future.
As far as EJ goes. It's amazing what some actual practice time and repetitions from the pre-season and training camp can do for you. I expressed numerous times here how baffled I was that people were giving up on him already during this pre-season. And the best part, he's just going to keep improving over the next few years until he really hits his grove. Hold on folks, we may actually have something here.
absolutley, i always compare EJ to Big Ben not only because of physical similarity (i believe EJ has a higher ceiling though) but due to Doug Whaley as well. if i remember correctly he wants to mirror Ben's development and build a team similar to Pittsburgh's, so in my mind we have a perfect gauge. here is a comparison between EJ and Ben through their first 12 games that they started. now keep in mind that Ben was on a play off caliber team in his rookie year, they lost to NE in the second post season game:
EJ: 212 comp - 354 att - 59.9% - 2347 yds - 6.6 avg - 13 td - 10 int
Ben: 170 comp - 256 att - 66.4% - 2224 yds - 8.7 avg - 13 td - 8 int
i'm sure my hurried calculations are right, correct me if i'm wrong. he needs patience and support.
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Posted · Edited by Stampede
I watched this video on YouTube, and then watched another video about Wyoming Bills fans.
Two things I learned: while at Wyoming University, Josh preferred Buffalo style wings with a bleu cheese sauce, and the Wyoming state flag consists of a dark blue field (background) bordered by white and red; in the centre is the white silhouette of a bison (commonly called a buffalo) bearing the state seal.
Talk about destiny. Am I the only one who didn't know this?