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6 hours ago, Punching Bag said:
You exaggerate to make your point.
It actually has been simulcast on ABC and ESPN a number of times.
Only a handful though. But the NFL has been on paid channels for 17 years, and the customer terms are _way_ worse (cable costing >$100/mo, 2-year contracts, etc). Cable companies are just way better than broadcasters at tricking consumers into thinking pay TV is a utility.
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2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:
When the NFL says "pay money for channel x or you can't watch this game" I respond by NOT watching game and pursuing any one of my 1 million other interests in life. It's important that most NFL fans respond in kind, so the message is sent that this won't work.
So you haven’t watched Monday Night Football since 2005? (It switched to ESPN in 2006)
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7 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:
He was an All-Pro 5 of 8 years and pro bowl for 7 years.
He was the best player on what was a top 2-3 defense every year.
This is why I hate stats. On tape and on Sunday Willis is the focal point of any offense.
Then some bum on a bad defense can make 120 tackles a year 6 yards down field and now he's supposedly better in the history books. 🤷
I’ll give you tackle numbers not being the important thing, but what I’m trying to say is the “dominant” part of his career is not long enough for HoF. It’s why we don’t talk about JA and HoF yet - everyone knows he has a long, long way to go to prove that.In 20 years, people will still talk about Ray Lewis and LT. Nobody outside SF is going to remember Willis - he is Hall of Very Good material.
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4 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:
Patrick Willis is the only definite HoF, maybe Hester as a returner.
The rest are Hall of very good at best.
Willis played 7.5 seasons and only had >100 tackles in 4 of them. How on earth is he a definite HoF other than “I’ve heard of him”?
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Until tonight I was on team “keep McD”. He’s toast, what a terrible coach.
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2 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said:
Well, I've got Fios, 1GB down, 1GB up...so I don't think it's on my end. Could be wrong, which is often the case, though.
Streaming delay is not related to your home internet in any meaningful way. It comes down to the streaming tech the provider uses, how delayed their initial feed is, and how they configure their streams.
See https://thestreamable.com/news/fox-sports-app-removed-nearly-entire-streaming-delay-vs-ota-for-super-bowl-lvii for some good comparisons. Fox Sports puts a ton of engineering into this; the aggregators (Fubo, YouTubeTV, etc) just let it play on their regular (read: lowest cost) linear streaming system, just like cable and OTA do.
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During the Chiefs game, Romo announced he is playing in the Pebble Beach Pro-Am this weekend, so no surprise he’s skipping the pro bowl.
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I think the Bills knew that the Pats WR/QB suck, and told Elam to watch from the booth to help learn the game. It’s a common tactic in hockey for a rook, but in the NFL you
don’t normally get these slam-dunk wins.
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14 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:
Here’s my issue with streaming. One of my favorite inventions was the DVR. Record and Watch a game whenever you want and not miss a thing. Start watching a game maybe a half hour after it started and you can fast forward thru the damn commercials.
This past NBA season, I subscribed to NBA League Pass to watch my Golden State Warriors games. It went thru the TV and the NBA App. When I watched the game, even though there were Pause, Rewind and Fast Forward functions, they ended up being for only 15 seconds. I paused the game and left the room for a couple minutes expecting to be able to continue from where I was paused but the broadcast had continued. When I tried to rewind, I found out about the 15 sec limit.
You couldn’t watch the game from the start if in progress.
I’m on the West Coast so I thought a work around for East Coast games was to start watching after the game ended, when you can fast forward, etc. Well, I clicked on the icon for the game and it went to another screen where plastered in large font across the top of the screen was something like “Warriors Win Led by 30 Points From Curry.
If this is how NFL ST and Amazon’s streaming of Thursday games is going to work, they’re taking a step back in technology and I’ll be pissed.
Thursday Night games will have start-over (ie start from beginning, FF/RW) this year. This isn't really a technology problem with streaming; rights are generally either sold with or without start-over. Hopefully Sunday Ticket comes with those rights as well.
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Poloncarz’s statement about building for soccer as well pretty much confirms that the field will be grass - any “big” international games require it.
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36 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:
You're wrong. ESPN produces in native 4k, Fox is upscaled... but the upscaled is still better than 1080p.
And no streaming for live sports doesn't hold a candle to the satellite quality and my internet is 120mbps, I've even run side by side, even with a full minute delay on the stream (make sure no one is texting you during the game!) the quality just doesn't perform for live sports, it never runs flawless.
My brother in law swears by streaming had us over to watch a game and the stream got shuddered and buffered abs I just start laughing. Cousin of mine too his stream has quality issues for the college national Chamionship one year. I've heard the claims and theories they just don't follow through on live events.
If you have recorded shows allowed to buffer, sure great quality, but live sports it's just not there vs live TV especially when 4k native or upscaled never mind the delay.
A lot of live sport streams still are not in full 1080p.
I swear people that only stream refuse to acknowledge this unless forced to, I got a buddy like this and both me and another guy that do both live TV and stream had to force feed to show him and I'm DTV other guy is fiber optic...
ESPN has never broadcast an NFL game in 4K: https://www.sportsvideo.org/2021/10/11/espns-monday-night-football-crew-tests-rare-s35-pl-mount-fujinon-lens-on-near-sideline-cart-camera/I’m sure there are a lot of unhappy anecdotes about streaming and it can suffer from poor ISPs, badly configured WiFi, internet weather, etc. Latency is totally up to the provider and what technology choices they make; it’s easy to beat over-the-air latency, but a lot of providers use a large buffer to drive down rebuffer rates (which most of them track as the KPI). Fact is, for mid-90% of viewing sessions there are no rebuffers on a responsible streaming provider (Prime Video is way up near the top).
QuoteA lot of live sport streams still are not in full 1080p.
You are definitely right about this, which is a bummer. But there are 0 broadcast channels that distribute 1080p; Fox and ABC/ESPN distribute 720p, NBC and CBS distribute 1080i. DirecTV picks up all their primary distribution feeds in these formats to send to your set-top-box.Most (not all) of these broadcasts are now shot in 1080p60 and those are handed off to the broadcaster’s streaming app, which will stream their top rendition at 1080p60. So if you want the best quality - streaming is your only option.
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17 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:
So I pay like $300 for Sunday ticket plus dtv costs and now I got to buy streaming to watch any Thursday games including the Bills?? Streaming quality doesn't hold the jock of satellite especially when Thursdays are already in 4k it made watching those games awesome... streaming live sports just sucks, this isn't a prerecorded event that can load and buffer like when you binge Netflix.
This is not correct, unless you have circa-2005 internet access. DirecTV uses fairly dated technology for its satellite feeds; Prime Video gives you way more bits and better codecs, long as your connection is ~100mbps (pretty standard for a cable modem). Also, you can’t compare DTV’s Sunday ticket streaming with Prime Video; DTV has known for years they weren’t going to renew, so they haven’t spent any money on the streaming tech while the rest of the providers have been moving forward on quality.No networks today produce NFL in 4K BTW - anything you see called that is upscaled from their HD cameras.
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1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:
I fear there will be no DVR features. That's how most streaming sports work, and it's crazy that the companies don't realize the value of the feature.
I don’t know if there are VOD rights here, but scrub-back rights are part of the contract. So you’ll be able to start the game and scroll back to the beginning.
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The Jays in 92-93 - and I was too young to understand how spoiled we were then.
Portland Timbers 2 weeks ago winning the MLS Cup. What was amazing was they took an early 2-0 lead, and I never had that feeling they'd find a way to lose the way I'm conditioned with the Bills. Still, I've only been a soccer fan for the ~7 years I've lived in PDX, and the Timbers won it all after only 5 years in MLS. I don't think the feeling comes close to what a SB win or a Sabres stanley cup would mean. The folks here don't understand how spoiled they are right now...
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I'll be there - section 29 row 43. Will be up bright and early to tailgate as well
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I'm going with a buddy who is a 49ers fan - sitting in lower stands section 29. We'd be up for joining a tailgate, are people caravaning in from somewhere?
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Maybin has quickly turned into one of my LEAST favorite Bills ever....not his fault but still....
It _is_ his fault. Had he not greedily held out last year, people would be more forgiving. People don't hate McKelvin as much, although he hasn't proved his worth at a similar draft position. Maybin has to be twice as productive to dig out of the hole he is in.
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Who will throw to TO on the Jets? This guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPwFOqKowtQ
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I'd have to say Flutie was one of the best backups....whenever he came off the bench, he performed. When he was a starter, teams could game plan to keep him in the pocket, and he just wasn't that effective.
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All i have to say is.....
MAY DAY! MAY DAY! MAY DAY! MAY DAY! BRAAAADDDDDD MAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, Pommer's goal was great, but May Day was easily the greatest Sabres OT goal. We hadn't won a playoff series in what, 10 years? And stone-hands Brad May absolutely undressed Ray Borque.
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IMHO the two personal foul calls were both B.S. to get the refs on TV...its the super bowl for god sake's, people are going to finish the play. I think the Saints' didn't make that 2pc and overturning the call on the field was really shady, but it didn't matter in the end.
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Hard to believe that ESPN acknowledged hockey's existence at one time (and that the Sabres were actually black and red for a while)
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His middle name is Englebert? I'm not nearly as scared of him now.
Realistic "Transition Year" Expectations
in The Stadium Wall
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This is a weird thread. We are running back most of the same team who won 6 of their last 7 games, with the only L by 3 points against the repeat SB champs. We lose an aging C and a WR who was ineffective in those games; everyone else on offense moves one year closer to their prime.
On defense, we lose 3 DBs who were too slow to compete; Douglass and Benford are the best starting CBs we’ve had over the past 2 years. We get Milano back. Floyd is the only loss, and he wasn’t a game-changer.
Why would anyone expect a different performance than the back third of last season?