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Kyle Williams and Mario Williams.
I'm not concerned with Josh Allen and his ability to put up points. Lee Evans isn't anything special. We didn't have peak TO. Stevie Johnson would've dropped any important pass, so ill pass. Eric Moulds career started before the drought era and doesn't qualify for this.
The Bills DL is absolutely unquestionably pathetic going on three Playoffs in a Row. Add those two guys in their Buffalo Prime to the current Bills and the Bills are 2 - 1 against the Chiefs in the playoffs. 13 seconds never would've happened and the Bills would've won this past year where we badly needed our DL to create a rush.
People here are complaining about not addressing receiver and I keep looking at the DL and wondering when they're gonna show up in the playoffs against the Chiefs or Bengals? Beane needs to either trade, sign, or draft a stud Dend next off season because Rosseau though very good isn't great and the Bills need a great dend to truly become a consistent Superbowl threat.
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Just finished it. Definitely top 3 behind the Charlie Sheen and Larry the Cable Guy Roast.
Based on my personal comedic tastes I'd rank the roasters
1. Andrew Schulz (pure comedic talent) 2. Tony Hinchcliffe(quick wit)
3. Nikki Glaser (savage until the school girl crush bit)
4. Bill Belichick (very good)
5. Kevin Hart (did a good job hosting)
6. Jeff Ross (he was funny but he wasn't at his best)
7. Sam Jay (most grounded in a funny way) 8. Julian Edelman (savage in a shocking and slightly uncomfortable way)
9. Manning and Brady (Both are talents and you can tell work hard at everything they do)
10. Drew Bledsoe (funny and played the poor sap well)
Randy Moss, Ben Affleck, Dana White, Robert Kraft, Kim Kardashian, and Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer were meh.
Gronk is ridiculous. I was either laughing or he was cringe.
Who finds Will Farrell funny?
The Bills and Buffalo definitely took the most shots although that Jets front office joke was the most savage.
Netflix missed out not having Bill Burr. Boston guy who would've slayed.
Those complaining about any of the jokes. Please go see the comedy police and stop ruining everyone else's fun.
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17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
PFF did their top 101 players of 2023 a couple of months ago. The Bills had 1 guy on the list. They were the 2 seed in the AFC. They lack top end talent and have suffered from it. Josh covers so many problems with this team. We have but a roster full of overpaid grinders. Hopefully his reset changes the way that the Bills allocate resources. Fill the depth with cheap labor and pay for the top of the roster.
My jersey is already hanging in the rafters homie. You’re the one trying to make a name for yourself. That trash take isn’t going to get you there.
If it “isn’t correct” list the 3 that are worse and be prepared to defend it…
Patriots - two prospects rated worse than Coleman. Bourne whose amounted to nothing and Juju. Sure.
Chargers - not much more to be said
Broncos - unless you think Sutton carries the entire load.
Cardinals - Unless Marvin Harrison Jr to you makes up an entire receiving unit.
Giants - Isiah Mckenzie might be their third best receiver. No thanks
Panthers - Much rather have Samuel Coleman and Shakir over Thielen.
Thats being conservative. When Coleman, Shakir and Samuel combine for 2200 yards will see how this all shakes out.
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2 hours ago, Logic said:
1. Get bigger and slower at WR
2. Take the ball out of Josh Allen's hands more
Perfect offseason so far.
Maybe will be able to actually do something in the redzone this season beyond Josh Allen heroics. Not to worried about the Bills offense between the 20 yard lines.
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7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I agree the DE value did drop off. I think most of the next tier of edge guys were 3-4 OLBs not base DEs. I actually like Solomon at the value they took him.
I was not arguing for double dip at receiver just for the sake of arguing it. I am arguing it because I think the value there was better than a rotational DT (you are entitled to like Carter better than I do but I still disagree) there was better value at OT. There was better value at corner. These are premium spots and we took the low hanging fruit at backup DT and backup RB because we had immediate holes there.
It's that type of need based drafting that get you in trouble in the long run.
He has been allowed to leave by the Falcons, Browns and Panthers. It is not exactly the Chiefs, 49ers and Cowboys. How many guys with that resume make a difference in the NFL week to week?
And I loved Deion Jones coming out. But it is a reality that he isn't that guy now.
I agree with corner over DT. We have been horrific at DT beyond Jones and Oliver so if Carter hits that will be the biggest help for the Bills. I think the Bills have more faith Elam can rebound than us fans. I guess will wait and see. I also think the Bills see Carter as their future 1 Tech once he puts on a bit more weight. Reciever I was pounding the table for Roman Wilson at 60 and a trade up in the 3rd. It didn't happen but I understand why the Bills did what they did. We couldn't run the ball in the redzone without Allen and our DT's sucked.
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25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
You are right that our backup DTs last year sucked. I said they would when we wasted money signing them. But when we have holes at premium spots backup DT didn't seem super value (and I am not high on Carter). Similarly at backup RB I do like Davis just isn't great value. If you were spending a 4th on a first string running back fair enough. For a second string short yardage back that to me isn't good asset allocation. In six drafts it is a second, two thirds and a fourth on running backs. The most devalued position on the football field.
On receiving room my argument is absolutely lack of proven production equates to bottom three. Sure Coleman could end up a stud rookie. Sure Samuel could have a career year (if he stays healthy I think that is very likely actually), sure Kincaid thrown in adds a dimension. But at the same time do I think it is better than the 2022 receiving room? No. In 2022 they had an elite player. That to me matters more than anything else. Elite players win. Nobody in this group is approaching that.
As for cap - the $10m we having coming off is needed for our draft class and BEFORE we sign a single draftee of 2024 we have only $5m in space (not $15m) against the projected cap for 2025. Of course the cap could be higher. It was a bit this year. But that isn't a great basis on which to be planning.
Don't get me wrong I am not a negative nelly. I think this Bills team will still win 10 or 11 games. I think the offensive line could end up as a sneaky strength. I am less bothered about the Morse loss than a lot of people. I think Ed Oliver will have another good year and with Milano, Bernard and Taron at the second level we will be good there too. And Cook, Shakir, Kincaid, Brown etc can all take another step. But there are reasons - wide receiver, edge, safety - to believe this team will have some issues in 2024. I think it is a reload season.
It is a reload season. I am struggling to see where these holes you wanted fixed could be fixed in the 3rd and 4th round vs. a rotational DT and 2nd RB? The Dend value dropped significantly after the first four were off the board. Oline could've been a potential pick but I like Carter more than anyone in the 3rd round. Receiver. Maybe but people became obsessed with the double dip and ignored everything else.
Carter will play 50% of snaps and Davis will likely be our feature back in the redzone. Thats playing a pretty significant role for the Bills.
That cap space is a starting point. Releasing Von Miller creates 10+ million more in cap space. Restructures. Cap going up. Bills are in a good spot. Again only Brown and Rosseau for significant new contacts. Bills have alot of ammo to greatly improve this roster after this season.
Receiver will agree to disagree. Of course I'd like more talent but the Bills made more of less with Davis, Mckenzie, Knox, and Diggs.
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Glad he isn't coming here. He's cooked and everyone will soon see. This is a buddies helping a buddy signing. Bills best move is to move one or two of their picks next year for an actual difference maker at receiver.
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Camp body who might show enough to warrant a roster spot. Low risk. who cares. Still think Beane uses one of next years 4th and maybe one their 2nds to land a stud receiver post June 1st.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
I take a different view on the value of the picks the Bills made in the mid rounds. I am not super high on Carter as a player, I do like Davis a fair bit but I'm not sure I agree with you on the importance of a rotational DT and a short yardage back as difference making moves for this team in 2024. Equally I do think our WR room is bottom 3. In terms of PROVEN production at the NFL level we have Samuel and his circa 550 yards per season average over his 6 healthy seasons, Mack Hollins a career backup and half a season of Khalil Shakir. that is not a lot of proven production. Then we have some question marks. I think it is pretty thin.
Where I agree with you is on the value of offensive tackle.
See. I think Carter is an upgrade over the rotational DT's we had last year and will prove to be an excellent rotational DT. I was disgusted by the lack of push the DT had in that Chiefs game and I think Oliver was over used down the stretch. The Bills had next to no options in the way of a decent pass rush 3 Tech behind him. Time will tell, but the Bills must maintain consistent pressure up the middle come playoff time. Thats why for me DT was a must and Carter had solid production in College.
Short yardage RB who can also take significant snaps receiving out of the backfield is an integral part of Joe Brady offense and will also prove valuable. I am not a fan of pushing Josh Allen into a pile 10 times a game. I also think the Bills become less predictable on offense with a RB like Davis in the redzone. For this reason I also think this was an important high value pick. Certainly more valuable than a 4th round receiver.
Time will tell on who is wrong about our recieving room. Your argument is lack of production most likely means bottom 3. That's one way of looking at things but again the off season isn't over. Bills have an additional 10 million coming up soon. I am of the belief Beane knows he has a guy signed after June 1st. I could be wrong but that 10 million isn't going to go unused and receiver seems most logical to me.
I believe Shakir, Samuel, Coleman, and Kincaid as receiving threats is a heck of alot better than Diggs, Davis, Isiah Mckenzie, and Knox. Thats who we had in 2022 when everyone thought we were going to win it all.
I also think this is a two step program for Beane. We have 1 (1st) 2 (2nds) 1 (3rd) and 4 (4ths) next draft. Currently sit 15 million under the cap in 2025 vs. 50 million over this season. We have alot of room to add pieces to this team with only Brown and Rosseau needing significant new contracts.
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11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't agree with all of this but I do have sympathy with the first para. Personally I'm still of the view at top tier LT is as valuable as any receiver. What I do think is there are fewer top tier LTs than there are elite level WR talents and that is just a product of the college game and the way it is being played, but I'm of the view that a bad blindside tackle is one of the easiest ways to lose a football game. I'd add the rebuild of the Lions to your list of tackle savvy teams. They have the best tackle duo in football and I personally think Decker and Sewell are more important to that offense than St Brown.
So what part do you disagree with?
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11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I’ll be okay calling pass rusher as the 2nd most important position. Offensive tackle is nowhere near as important as WR. Again, look at the contracts being signed right now. We try to convince ourselves that areas that we are good at are more important than areas that we aren’t good at.
Importance of position:
QB - Bills are elite
WR - Bills are bottom 3
DL (all inclusive) - Bills are average with talent but may get results with volume
CB - Bills average to goodOT - Bills good
C - Bills average (although Van Pran could be a steal)
S - Bills average
RB - Bills are above average
LB - Bills are elite if Milano is healthy
OG - Bills average to above average
ST - Bills are average
Who said that? Don’t make stuff up to strengthen your 🗑️ perspective.
Whose trying to convince who of what? Offensive Tackle is every bit as important as receiver and to say its not close is not close to correct. Now if you want to have a conversation how overrated poorly run teams like the Dolphins have thrown crazy money at receiver while smart run teams like the Packers, Chiefs, Ravens keep investing in their oline and defense over receiver thats a different conversation. There is a reason OT were flying off the board 1st round. No one is saying receiver isn't important. It clearly is in the next position group of importance after QB with Dend and OT.
What would you like the Bills to do? Throw a 3rd or 4th round pick at receiver? Maybe it's just me but I'd like to see our QB having to do less QB sneaks because we have no RB who was useful in the short run game. I'd like our rotational DT to actually sustain pressure in the playoffs rather than be stonewalled.
Our receiver group is not bottom 3. You keep saying this but it isnt true. Bills were predicted to win the Superbowl in 2022 with Isiah Mckenzie as our slot and Gabe Davis as our # 2. This Bills receiver group is better simply by the fact Kincaid is also part of the group by every metric outside of his position title. Kincaid and Knox will be on the field together a lot and Kincaid won't be lined up as a Tight End. I agree the Bills need to add someone post June 1st. I disagree with Bills fans pretending the sky is falling because they didnt draft a 2nd receiver in the mid rounds. To be upset for a budget linebacker signing now when you know the Bills have 10 million coming their way soon for receiver seems kind of silly.
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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:
It’s an infinitely more important position. Look at the contracts of off the ball LBs compared to WR. Additionally, the top of the LB room >>>>> the top of the WR room
Linebacker 6 with the new kick off rule is more important than receiver 6. Receiver 1 through 3 is more important than linebacker 1 through 3. Although Bernard and Milano are pretty damn important. As we witnessed when both went out.
1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:Sweet comeback bro!!
If you like signing LBs that were pro bowlers in 2017 and PS players in 2023, cool. I prefer to address the 2nd most important position in football, for a team that has the worst WR room in the NFL. To each their own 🍻
Bills did address the 2nd most important positions in football by drafting a defensive end and Offensive Tackle.
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12 hours ago, NewEra said:
I can’t understand why we continue yo sign and draft off ball LBs while our WR room looks like it does. Maybe they have plans post 6/1?
Research the new kick off rule and you'll have the answer to your question. Furthermore off ball linebacker depth is cheap. You want the Bills to sign a receiver now with 3 million in cap space or to wait post June 1st with 10 million extra in cap space? Bills aren't done at receiver but they have to wait a bit before having the cap space to sign (or trade) for one who might make a difference.
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Good point....it could be chaos. I'm not too thrilled with the change. I'd have just moved the kicker back 10 yards personally and take away the fair catch
I love the change. It adds another wrinkle of creativity and gives teams an extra edge if they're prepared for it. Special teams have been under valued for far too long in the NFL.
CFL is a much worse game but their special teams play is more exciting than the NFL. That's unacceptable if you're the NFL. Football is a three phase game and the NFL had done everything in its power to make it offense vs defense with limited variables. Not anymore.
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10 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Bills are hilarious sometimes. Last year at this time we didn’t know we had 2 starters and they do nothing at LB. This year they are loading up at LB.
So weird. Maybe they are planning to run more 3 LB sets.
But, I remember hearing how the new kickoff rule makes having a lot of LBs more likely. You know how the Bills love special teams. This is probably it.They better love special teams and be prepared for the new kick off rule. Teams who don't respect it are gonna find themselves giving up tds for not being prepared. I can't wait to see the collective shock of the media and casual fans when 30 kick off tds are scored in the the first half of the NFL season. I am quite honestly shocked this isn't being discussed more but I guess talking about low hanging fruit topics such as the Bills not drafting a receiver in 4th round so their season is over before it starts are more important to talk about.
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People on this website are not grasping how significant the new kick off rule is going to change the game. They will when the games start. Hence the Bills signing and prioritizing Linebackers this off season.
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4 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said:
It feels more like we're treading water, rather than improving. The offense improved a bit when we ran more under Brady and Kincaid and Shakir stepped up for sure, but it didn't change the end result in the playoffs. Now you take away two primary threats from before - Diggs and Davis - and Kincaid and Shakir will get more attention. Will Samuel and Coleman make up the difference? There will be no real outside threat and I imagine teams will quickly sniff that out and our Offense will stagnate due to the lack of a diverse attack. But if we can run it down peoples throats and then score TDs in the red zone at a high rate we'll be ok.
I am not sure about this. The Bills scored more points against the Chiefs than any other team this past season in that playoff game. That includes both regular and post season. The offense is not Broken and I believe will be better even without Diggs because we will be less predictable. Compared to the Niners and Ravens we were the Greatest Show on Turf.
Our defense let us down.
A healthy interior DL and back 7 will do wonders for the Bills come playoff time. Bills need to figure out how to rush the passer in the playoffs. That has been the biggest travesty for the Bills. No sacks against the Chiefs in 2021. Bengals. 2002. Chiefs 2023. It wasn't even that we didn't get any sacks. We didn't even put pressure to sniff Mahomes or Burrow. With Brady offense we hopefully have less boom or bust series on offense and more time of possession that gives our d more of a break.
Look at Miami. Fast scoring offenses often put a lot of stress on the defense which leads to more injuries.
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8 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said:
I don't know what happened second half of last year to Diggs, but I don't put it on him alone. I think Brady's scheme and play calling and a lack of a real #2 were as much to blame. With Davis hitting FA, I would have liked to see Coleman added to pair WITH Diggs, not try and replace him. Now that would have been a WR room - Diggs, Keon, Samuel and Shakir! Could have given DCs fits.
But I think they probably did well to move on from Diggs. They just should have done more to address WR. Our WR room already needed an upgrade with Davis not producing consistently, but then when he left and then they also traded Diggs, more was needed.
You're justified in thinking this way but I am going to enjoy the 30 million after this year in cap savings and save my opinions about this new offense after seeing how our new approach going larger at X receiver pays off.
I think the Bills have a clear idea about having large men all over their receiving core to disguse some offensive looks and also help in the redzone. Far too often last year the Bills moved the ball at will between the 20s only to rely on Allen heroics in the redzone. With Coleman, Hollins, etc out wide it allows us to be less predictable on offense. As a DB you don't know if you're gonna be blocked into the dirt or having to play jump ball with a 6'3 receiver whose much more athletic and talented than Gabe Davis. This will also make it more difficult on the defenses who knew when we were running or passing in the redzone.
This team stalled because opposing teams threw their # 1 corner on Gabe Davis who could only run two routes and had no jump ball ability. Then they'd just run double coverage on Diggs. It wasn't until the Bills worked the intermediate part of the field where things started to turn. I also believe Shakir will be one our X receivers between the 20 yard lines. Guy is 6 foot. 190 pounds. He isn't small by any means and he has become an above avg. blocker as well. I like the idea of a sustaining drive offense as well. I think the less time the defense is on the field its better for injury purposes. Our defense has been a MASH unit for far too many playoff runs.
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28 minutes ago, Beast said:
I don’t care what anyone says. This team is MUCH better than the one that took the field and lost to the Chiefs last January.
The Bills are going to be a load this season. Buckle up!
I wish more Bills fans recognized this. The National Media I get. Diggs, Davis Poyer, White etc were National Household names. Of course the media is going to paint our doom, especially with the love affair with Aaron Rodgers and Miami.
Us Bills fans should know better. Hyde is about to retire. Poyer being so great grabbed 2 million as a FA. White has played 10 games in 3 seasons. Davis could never put up decent #s even though he had Diggs opposite him and Allen as his QB. Morse was solid but who knows when his next concussion will happen. Diggs was the only loss the Bills are going to feel this season and quite honestly I'll take the extra 30 million in cap space moving forward.
All these guys were serious let downs in the playoffs. Of course Davis will always have the 2021 Chiefs Divisional Game. Diggs disappearing act in the playoffs wore thin.
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This article is so bang on. The interior DL and the linebackers will be much better simply because Milano will be back and Bernard will continue to evolve. Corner is a wash and quite honestly so is Dend. If not a slight improvement. ACL injuries are brutal and Von never should've played last season. He will be better than what Floyd gave us last season. Safety is the only question mark and if there is one position this coaching staff gets its Safety.
On offense I implore people to really think on this. Our oline is still the best its ever been with Josh Allen outside last season.
Our RB are the best its ever been under Josh Allen.
Where people fail with their receiver logic is simple to me. Shakir, Samuel, Coleman, Kincaid, Knox is superior to any receiver group we have had with Allen. Yes Diggs is an alpha but we never really surrounded him with legit B level talent.
Gabe Davis, Isiah Mckenzie, John Brown, Hardy, about to retire Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley outside 2021 never produced better than at a C level rate. Bills have never had decent receiver talent outside Diggs.
So the question we need to ask is if force feeding Diggs the ball ultimately a better offense than spreading the ball around to B level talent?
Of course I'd love a Diggs level talent and still hope we trade for one but this group of receivers are better than any other group we had had with Josh Allen.
Bills were predicted to win the Superbowl in 2022 with Isiah Mckenzie as our slot. Singletary as our starting RB and a much worse Oline. Worse DT Worse DE. Worse corners. Worse TE. Worse receiver group behind Diggs. LB is a push. so really besides safety which looks promising we actually look better going into 2024 than the projected Superbowl 2022 team.
People need some serious context.
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1 hour ago, CirclnWagons said:
Though the Mafia spin doctors have been working 24/7 to have you believe there hasn’t been a draft go this well for a team since what Sonny Weaver Jr pulled off for the Browns in 2014, there’s no doubt we lost a lot of talent, leadership and experience. What does a successful season look like for this depleted roster? Could we say top 2 in division and wild card is legit expectation for this crew or am I too optimistic?
Bills should be the AFC East fav. This isn't the NBA where names rule the day. Bills interior dline and linebackers will be better than last year. Safety has a load of potential. Corner remains the same. Edge has some intrigue.
Offense has far more above. avg talent rather than just feeding Diggs. Hoping for volume baskets.
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On 4/27/2024 at 6:26 PM, Logic said:
Trading up for one of the big three WRs -- which Beane said he didn't try to do -- would've done it.
Failing that, as I said, collecting quantity instead of quality might've accomplished that. Giving greater priority to surrounding Allen with multiple skillsets at wide receiver.
When I look at the Bills' WR corps as it stands right now, it's hard not to feel like it's one of the least inspiring groups in the league.I dont like this logic. We built fantastic depth in this draft which is what we needed to do instead of dishing out 4 to 5 million $ to rotational linebackers, dlineman, and secondary.
Coleman replaces Gabe Davis. Nothing more. Nothing less. He grades to be better than Davis. Diggs isn't replaceable. Bills are gonna sling the ball all over the field rather than force feed one guy. Let's see how this works out. Shakir, Samuel, Kincaid, Coleman, Knox, Cook, Ray Davis is so much better than people are giving credit. This group is light years better than
Diggs, Mckenzie, Davis, Singletary
Diggs, Beasley, Brown, Singletary
Diggs, Davis, barely used Shakir and Kincaid until last few games, Cook coming out party near the end.
Our RB room has never been better. Oline is better than any season outside last under Allen.
Bills have never had elite talent at receiver besides Diggs. This group is better than any receiver the Bills have had besides Diggs and Beasley in 2021.
Cole Bishop replaces Poyer and I love this pick. Starter day one.
Bills are absolutely flushed with cap space and draft picks for 2025. We will have 7 picks in the top 150 next year. (1) 1st (2) 2nds (1) 3rd (4) 4ths. You can't go all in every year.
This is what made the Chiefs Super Bowl this season so special for them. 2023 was clearly a transition year for the Chiefs and they still won anyways.
Dolphins and Jets are about to enter cap hell after this season and the Patriots are a long way a way. For now I'll enjoy 2024 and see how the young defense develops and how the post Diggs offense runs.
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Best Draft. No. I mean it could be but its a little rich to say right now.
I dont like the doom and gloom posters. Mostly because I dont think they have a clue what they're talking about and base opinions on their personal Madden Franchises.
Beane set the Bills up for a fantastic 2025 FA and draft.
I think Beane got a lot of solid guys in this draft who are going to start.
Next year Edge, Corner and either IOL and receiver must be their first 3 picks. Id rather trade for an established edge like the Giants did with Brian Burns.
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You guys do know that you wouldn't receive much more for Milano than what you received for Ryan Bates right?
What world do you guys live in where you think Milano would go for anything more than a late 4th? 30 year old off ball linebackers are simply not a sought after position in the NFL.
Long story short. Milano means 100 times more to the Buffalo Bills than any other NFL defense.
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Athletic article - comments from NFL people on AFC draft classes
in The Stadium Wall
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He was drafted to be a receiver. He was taken because the Bills had no one with size who could beat zone in the middle of the field. Call Kincaid whatever you want but he was taken to be Josh Safety night and replace Cole Beasley. Beanes words. Not mine.
The Jets cracked the code on the Dorsey offense of putting their # 1 corner on Davis to lock him down and rolling safety coverage over Diggs. Isiah Mckenzie was useless in zone and Knox was avg. at best.
Which is why I keep saying the Bills offense this year will be more dynamic than the previous seasons because it will be less predictable and more difficult to defend.
I do agree with you that id like another high receiver investment by Beane. I do think he drafted weapons in Cook and Kincaid that played closer to the line of scrimmage because the Bills didn't scare anybody outside Davis going deep and Diggs. Teams were rolling double high safety and spying Josh with a linebacker. At least with those two on the field it becomes much more difficult to do.
I am still convinced post June 1st the Bills will be making a trade and the receiver room isn't complete. Its telling that Beane has basically signed every reclamation project at receiver this off season hoping one hits. I also imagine receiver, DL, and corner will be his 3 main areas of focus next off season.