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  1. 6 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:


    Look.

     

    As a Toronto & Toronto Area NFL fan since 1963 and an ex Bills Season Tix holder starting in 1981, Toronto wants its OWN franchise! They would sell out an NFL Stadium forever, as there is a quantum increased degree of money there v.s. WNY!
     

    There is certainly a million- 1.5M NFL fans in the GTA, but they aren’t all Bills fans! 

     

    And the POS trash product from OBD for those games, was the same POS trash product that played in Orchard Park… for the lost years of this Millennium.

     

    Having the 2025 franchise visit is an entirely different question. Still, a number of Ontario laws, particularly around tailgating would need to change. 
     

    in the end, they should have got a franchise decades ago and the rivalry would be intense.
     

     

    Would Toronto want in on the NFL action? 

     

    Of course.

     

    Does the NFL want Toronto? Not really. They have the market through Buffalo and would rather those Toronto corporate dollars come to Highmark Stadium on game day. You'd have to have really deep pockets to make it worth it for the NFL. 

     

    In short the NFL is never coming to Toronto unless some massive NFL fanatic Canadian with 10 billion to spare decides they want one. 

  2. 9 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

    Has something changed since the Bills last Toronto series? I only ask and make these assumptions because the Toronto series didn’t have great attendance. The other international series games don’t seem to have this issue. 

    No idea but you went off about Toronto and how they only support the Maple Leafs. Toronto has an excellent track record of supporting all its sports franchises except for the Argonauts. 

     

    People also forget the fools running that series were asking for $ 400 a ticket to watch Trent Edwards and JP Losman back in 2010 which is crazy money even today.

     

    Toronto fans are much more NFL educated than any market outside the USA. They knew that entire Bills series was a scam and that the legit NFL Buffalo experience was a short drive down the highway. London, Mexico City, Berlin, Brazil, etc are not close to being as NFL educated as Toronto and are also not within a 6 hour drive from Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh.

     

    Any NFL fan in Toronto has been to an NFL game live and doesn't need Toronto to host a game to get their NFL fix. Those other cities need to attend the NFL when it comes to their city.

     

    TSN and Sportsnet did a poll of sporting interest and the NFL as whole only finished behind the Leafs in Southern Ontario. Ahead of the Jays and Raptors. NFL is huge in Toronto. You'll find fans of every team up here. Bills leading the way followed by the Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, and Niners.

    9 hours ago, uticaclub said:

    Disagree, international games are fun. I’d rather travel to Madrid and have a great new experience than go to Toronto for a weekend.

    You would. The Bills players and the vast majority of fans would not. You could go to Madrid without the Bills having to play there like 99.99% of the population if you really wanted to see Madrid. 

     

    The Toronto hatred is incredibly strong for some in here...

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  3. On 9/14/2025 at 8:35 PM, SirAndrew said:

    Would Toronto support an NFL team? They only show up for other non hockey sports when the team is a winner. Also, population isn’t everything. It’s almost like people forget that a HUGE part of Toronto’s population is first and second generation immigrants, many people who likely have yet to develop any appreciation for American football. 

    Really awful take. Gold Horseshoe (East side of Toronto to Niagara Region is a population of almost 10 million of which 7 million are white Canadians.

     

    Furthermore it's trendy and cool to love the NBA first and foremost for most recent immigrants followed by the NFL. It's hockey and baseball they're struggling to show interest in. 

     

    Raptors, Jays, TFC all do very well attendance wise regardles if the team is competitive or not. Only the Argonauts attendance sucks. Very poor take. 

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  4. On 9/14/2025 at 7:11 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said:

    Please don't.  

    The money from TV is more than enough to make a profit in Buffalo. 

    The Toronto atmosphere was terrible. Even playing the 9th home game every other year in Toronto would be awful. I'd honestly rather it be in Europe than in Toronto.

    Very bad take. No Bills fan should want Buffalo's international games played anywhere other than Toronto for travel sake alone. Ideally there is just no longer anymore international games. 

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  5. 4 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

     

    Wrong.

     

    Toronto is the 4th largest city in North America.  It has plenty to offer the NFL.

     

    How long do you think Canadians are going to continue to cross the border given the current climate down there?

     

    I personally know of 4 sets of longterm Bills season ticket holders who decided not to renew in the new stadium.

     

    I appreciate you suffer from that well established City of Buffalo fear of losing your professional sports teams given the city's 5 decade long economic decline however to say Toronto would not be a great new NFL franchise is pure homerism.

     

    The Bills are NOT going anywhere.

     

    Why the fear bro?

    I'm Canadian and live in Oakville...

     

    Seriously don't recognize the University of Waterloo emblem in my avatar?

     

    Toronto has nothing to offer the NFL. 

     

    No improvement to TV revenue. The TSN and Sportsnet Toronto NFL team TV revenue would be an insignificant drop in the bucket compared to what the NFL already receives from TSN, DZN, and CTV for the Canadian NFL rights. Advertising revenue would be next to irrelevant. Stadium revenue given the up front cost wouldn't do anything for the NFL. NFL isn't the MLB, NHL, and NBA where teams have a local broadcast team to generate advertising revenue. NFL wants a bottom line of how you contribute to the total pie. How does Toronto help NBC, ESPN, FOX, ABC, and Amazon? It doesn't. 

     

    Would Toronto be a healthy market in terms of stadium sellouts and local revenue for the Toronto NFL team owner? Yes. Does Toronto add anything to grander scale of the NFL? No. Given the cost to build a stadium expansion fees and everything else, I'd say it wouldn't be worth it for any potential owner.

    3 hours ago, T.E. said:

    Oh man, the whole franchise might collapse because a handful of Canadians are coming up with melodramatic, phony reasons for why they dont want to pay for more expensive tickets next year. 

    Yes. Any Bills flirtation with the city of Toronto puts them one step closer to ultimately moving there.

    Buffalo already owns the Toronto market and Ralph Wilson knew this and went about it the wrong way.

     

    Pegula is being much more intelligent in his Toronto approach by bringing aboard Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, and Jozy Altidore to tap into the deep pockets of Toronto by bringing them to Buffalo. 

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  6. 1 minute ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

    NO THANK YOU.

     

    If Toronto is going to get a team, it should be one of 4 new NFL franchises to get to 36 teams.

     

    $2.5B for a downtown new stadium in Toronto plus $2.5B for the franchise fee.

     

    I don't have $5B so I won't worry about it.

    Toronto will never get a NFL team. Nor should they. As far as the NFL is concerned they have the Toronto and Vancouver market covered with Buffalo and Seattle. Montreal isn't anywhere near as crazy for NFL as the other two cities. 

     

    NFL has maxed out Canada. Only thing the NFL wants from Toronto is more money pouring into Highmark Stadium from Toronto on Game Day. Toronto has nothing else to offer the NFL. 

    3 minutes ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

     

    The NFL does NOT give a crap about the CFL.

     

     

    It absolutely does otherwise it wouldn't have bailed out the CFL in 1997. NFL saved the CFL from going under. NFL wants to grow the game of football globally and there is value to having a league where guys can potentially evolve to playing in the NFL. NFL might not give a crap about the CFL as a competitive league but it absolutely wants it to exist. 

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  7. Every football fan in Canada laughed at that statement.

     

    1. Everyone remembers how disastrous the Bills in Toronto series was last time.

    2. Toronto doesn't have a field suitable for NFL football as the Rogers Centre has been retrofitted for baseball only and BMO field maxes out at 42 000.

    3. Canadian Bills fans made their voices loud and clear by boycotting anything Bills related to playing in Canada. 

    4. NFL won't do that that to the CFL ever again. 

    5. It serves no purpose to growing the fanbase. Josh Allen's alone is growing the Southern Ontario Buffalo Bills fanbase. Easily the most loved NFL player since Brett Favre. 

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  8. 4 minutes ago, US Egg said:

    Let me guess….

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    Nope. Not even close. Just not someone whose built his life around creature comforts of sitting and TV. Nothing macho about it. Which is what's so depressing. People have really let themselves slip into basic comforts where they don't have a shred of basic resiliency. If watching an NFL game outdoors is becoming too much for people I'd really question where we are heading as a society. 

     

    The fact you went to macho tough guy is another indicator of how far we are slipping as a society. It's not macho to want to watch a game outdoors. It's actually a very normal thing. If you're elderly and perfer a Dome I understand that completely. If you're not, you are likely a sit in air conditioning during the summer and stay indoors during the winter type of person. Is what it is. 

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  9. 2 hours ago, NoSaint said:

    And he was toast 

    Will find out. I wouldn't say 10 months post injury is toast. He certainly isn't the player he once was. I'll agree with you there. Another year removed from the Achilles injury could do wonders. 

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  10. The way things are going Buffalo and Green Bay are going to be the only open aired stadiums with a grass field in the Northeast and Midwest. I love that. Will be unique and Bills Mafia will continue to be the working mans experience during Bills games. Eagles games like many other teams will become a non intimidating wine and cheese crowd. I want a loud, rowdy, passionate, but sane Bills crowd at home games. Corporate America is slowly killing what made so many things in the USA special by pandering to the elites. 

     

    I guess I am not a wuss like many others on here. The partial roof and height of the field is going to eliminate most of the elements as is. 

     

    Dome only made sense downtown.

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  11. https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/3288796

     

    USA walks away with Gold. Comfortably

     

    Canada walks away with Silver. Comfortably.

     

    Not sure what the point is? Is it to grow a sport? Or watch NFL players grind the other countries into dust as NBC laughs hysterically at the profits?

     

    The only reason to add NFL talent is so casual fans go, "ohhhhh I know those football players. Me watch." It certainly serves no purpose in actually growing the game to a wider audience. 

     

    or maybe it does.

     

    Other countries basketball programs have exploded even though America destroys them on the court. Maybe China, Brazil, Japan, Nigeria, Mexico, and France will be OK losing by 100 points? 

     

     

     

     

  12. Homer Take and Long Take

     

    Offense

     

    - Josh Allen mental game is catching up to his physical traits. We have a few years of peak Josh Allen before physical traits slowly come down. So best QB we have had? 

    - Top 5 OL

    - RB room is top 10 but can go south if Cook isn't invested. 

    - TE room is top 10. 

    - 2021 with peak Diggs was our best receiving group with Allen. This group is much deeper 2 through 5. Remember when Davis and Mckenzie were options 2 and 3? ugh.

     

    Defense.

     

    - DL on paper is easily the best group. People forget the years of aging Jerry Hughes, Trent Murphy, Mario Addison, burnt out Floyd, and injured Von Miller as our DE in the playoffs. Buffalo has always had horrible DT depth. At least this year you can see a clear path to a productive interior pass rushing group. Run stuffing DT remains a issue but I imagine this will be mostly left to Daquan Jones who will no longer be relied upon on 3rd downs. 

    - LB avg Unit but no reason to believe that both Bernard and Williams don't continue to improve. Milano is no longer an all Pro but is still good. 3rd year Dorian Williams and Hoecht (Yes I know considered a DE but will be playing LB snaps particularly against the Ravens and other power offenses) are easily the best immediate LB depth we have had. 

    - Corners a lot rides on Maxwell Hairston development but do people really think this years version is worse than Levi Wallace, Elam, Dane Jackson, and aging Douglas? Would be nice to see Benford actually play a full game in the playoffs against the Chiefs (T White and Benford in their primes seem to always be injured late in the playoffs. This needs to change)

    - Safety Easily our 2nd worst safety room the Bills have had in the Josh Allen era outside last season. A LOT rides on Cole Bishops development. Nickle players with Hancock and Forrest could absolutely upgrade that unit just by actually being much more physical and athletic. All depends how long McDermott gets this group up to speed. I can deal with Raap for another season if we have actual athletes around him. 

     

    All that is to say. I've seen better Chiefs and Ravens teams than their 2025 versions. I have never seen the AFC this loaded with above avg. teams in the Texans, Chargers, Broncos, Bengals, and possibly Steelers if Rogers goes there. Patriots and Raiders will not make the playoffs but will make every game difficult for their opponents.

     

    Bills need to finish 1st in the AFC because the stage is set up for them to go to the Superbowl. All comes down to the Bills 3rd down defense. If it goes to top 10 from 29 than good luck rest of the NFL not named Ravens, Chiefs, Lions, Rams, or Eagles. 

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  13. NFL is doing a bunch of early schedule release announcements Monday and Tuesday with special guests. 

     

    Dion Dawkins is one of the special guests. My guess is it's related to the Bills playing at home on Christmas in the Ralph's Last regular season home game. 

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  14. 11 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

    I’m not disagreeing with you but Epenesa has also completley transformed his body from a power rusher to more of a speed rusher. Epenesa did all of his drills at like 280lbs. Jackson plays at 280-290 but dropped weight for the combine to time better. I feel if Epenesa did his drills at his current weight his RAS would be closer. 

     

    I doubt it. It doesn't really work like that. Dropping 15 pounds doesn't up your RAS score from a 4 to a 9. One is an elite athlete and one isn't. Watching their college tape it is no contest. Landon Jackson is much more fluid than Epenesa. 

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  15. On 5/2/2025 at 5:11 PM, Motorin' said:

     

    A lot of truth here. I'll add that having a mid-season funk nearly every year while dropping games against inferior teams, causing the Bills to miss out on the 1 seed is something an elite QB like Josh Allen shouldn't be doing either. 

     

    And losing out on the bye and having to play Wild Card weekend every year is another reason they haven't reached a Super Bowl... Regularly capturing the #1 seed needs to be the main focus of the regular season, which means learning to win the stupid mid-season games against teams like Jacksonville, no matter what and no excuses. 

    I push back on the narrative that the Bills actually had a legit top 10 defense. Sure the #s played that out and you can only play the teams in front of you but there were many seasons in a row the Bills faced a ridiculous amount of trash, rookie, and back up QBs. 

     

    The Bills defense has always been the same. Makes rookie, and low tier QBs look horrible only to be smashed by good QBs. 

     

    The answer is simple the back 7 can greatly disrupt bad and young qbs. They can't do that to good QBs. Only a good pass rush can. The Bills have never had one against good QBs. 

     

    Chiefs might beat other teams in the playoffs but that hasn't changed the fact that the Bengals, Niners, Ravens, Eagles, and the freaking Texans have all had far superior defensive showings against the the Chiefs in the playoffs than any of Buffalo's four attempts. 

     

    Not surprising either as all those teams have/had superior defensive line talent than what the Bills have been pumping out. 

     

    Round 1 -  32 year old Jerry Hughes and Trent Murphy with Star Lotulelei as your best DT

    Round 2 - 33 year old Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison with rookie Ed Oliver and Vernon Butler as your DTs

    Round 3 - Bills were so badly injured on defense it didn't matter but our Dends were Rosseau and Floyd who fell off a Cliff Week 8.

    Round 4 - besides Rosseau and Oliver no one is even worth mentioning along the DL. 

     

    If people actually went back and looked at the Bills DL depth it would come as no surprise why this team can't beat the Chiefs. Josh Allen is the only reason these games are competitive.

     

     

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  16. This is kind of a three horse race.

     

    Ravens would be but who knows when Henry falls off the RB cliff and Lamar is legit snake bitten in the playoffs. That defense is going to be scary good with their off season additions. 

     

    Bengals might be more legend than reality at this point. Bills have completely overhauled their offensive structure and their defense seems to be leaning towards being better at stopping talented QBs. Too many variables have changed since their last meeting. 

     

    Chiefs are the Chiefs. Would be nice to have one game against them in the playoffs where we were the healthier team. Their receivers will be much better this season. Their defense and OL will be worse. What does this mean? I don't know. Chargers, Raiders, and Broncos are all trending up and the days of them clinching their division in November might be over. 

     

    If the Bills defense can return to a top 10 Unit and if they are relatively healthy I like Buffalos chances. 

  17. 2 hours ago, finn said:

    To quote Ripley from the second Aliens movie, "Did the IQs just drop sharply while I was away?" I didn't say or suggest Beane should ignore the defense and prioritize the offense. Good lord. 

     

    Re-read my posts. I'll wait. (I suggest looking up "Straw-man fallacy" while you're at it.)

    I came in way too hot and obnoxious and I apologize. 

     

    I just don't see a world where the Bills could do it all this off season and I firmly believe the correct choice was loading up the defense. 

     

    Bills had two options.

     

    Bills trade away most of their premium draft capital to land the # 1 receiver you want at the expense of any defensive depth. 

     

    or 

     

    Bills do what they did and finally address defense early with multiple picks to fix that side of the ball which has been pathetically underwhelming. 

     

    Bills couldn't do both this off season. 

     

     

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  18. On 4/28/2025 at 7:46 PM, HappyDays said:

     

    Here's a question and I'm genuinely curious about your answer or anyone else that feels the same as you - what happens if we face KC in January and the defense looks exactly the same as it always does? Because this isn't the first offseason that we've devoted the bulk of our investments to the defense, and that strategy has not yet produced this mythical defense that can keep KC to 20 points or lower. Why are we assuming this year is different?

    What off season have we seriously invested in defense outside applying a quick bandaid or two? From where I stand we are always rolling out 3rd wave budget DL and 6th and 7th round draft picks at db. Besides Von Miller what actual serious investment have we made in the defense? Our actual serious draft investments have been Oliver, Edmunds, Rosseau, Elam, Bernard, D. Williams, Epenesa, Harrison Philips, Bishop, Carter and Boogie Basham. 

     

    Since Beane took over that is 11 defensive players taken in the first 3 rounds. 5 starters in the NFL currently. D. Williams on his way to starting. Bishop and Carter to early to tell. Elam and Basham are the only outright busts. That's a normal hit rate for NFL teams and even more impressive when you factor in the Bills usually pick 26 and higher. 

     

    We can go one step further and break the DL investments down by off season which will prove just how unserious Beane has been in fixing the DL. This the area where we are being eaten alive consistently in the playoffs. FYI I'm furious with Beane that it's taken him this long to finally attempt to  fix the DL instead of the pathetic attempts he had been making. 

     

     

    2018. Trent Murphy Star Lotulelei and Harrison Phillips

    2019 Jordan Philips Ed Oliver

    2020 Mario Addison Vernon Butler Quinton Jefferson? A.J. Epenesa

    2021 Justin Zimmer Gregory Rousseau Boogie Basham

    2022 Von Miller Daquan Jones Tim Settle

    2023 Leonard Floyd Poona Ford 

    2024 Austin Johnson Dawuane Smoot Casey Toohill DeWayne Carter

     

    Look at that list. You call that trying to address the DL? Outside Ed Oliver, Rosseau, Von Miller I call that a lot of budget swings to fix the DL. Keep in mind the only defensive fixture on the Bills DL that Beane was adding to was Jerry Hughes. Bills have never in one off season come close to trying to address the DL or defense the way they are this off season. 2023 is the only one you could argue and adding two 30+ year old players isn't what I would call a serious off season defensive investment.

     

    Now 2025 

     

    Joey Bosa Michael Hoecht Larry Ogunjobi T.J. Sanders Landon Jackson Deone Walker

    that is an acutal serious investment. 

     

    Not even going to bother addressing the dbs because T. White's injuries really sank that group and this organization latched onto Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson for too long. 

     

    Bills have been a budget defense relying on Matt Milano, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, and an injured T White to be their best players. No wonder the Bills have sucked in the playoffs. When your four best players are two safeties, a off ball linebacker and a injured corner. No team builds their defense this way. Except the Buffalo Bills in the Josh Allen era.

     

    Hopefully Ed Oliver, Greg Rosseau, Benford, Bernard, and T Johnson can be the nucleus with the new additions to launching a much better defensive roster. Maxwell Hairston and T.J. Sanders in particular should have Bills fans excited. We actually might have two legit corners and two legit pass rushing DT on 3rd down for the first time in the Josh Allen era. Add Bosa in there as well for two pass rushing  DEnds if the Bills can keep his snap count down and avoid injuries. 

     

    Bills are actually attempting to overhaul the defense instead of throwing a few darts at the board. It plainly obvious the Bills have never come close to being this aggressive on defense in any off season.
     

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  19. 3 hours ago, finn said:

    My counter is that the offense wasn't good enough in the playoffs last, so it stands to reason it won't be enough this year, given what little Beane has changed (let's assume that, yes, some players will improve but others will disappoint or get injured, as happens most every year). Last year, it got bailed out by the defense against Baltimore and failed on its final drive with the game on the line. 

     

    In other words, does it matter that the offense didn't turn the ball over and scored lots of points if they keep losing in the playoffs? We're so used to blaming the defense that we forget that Diggs dropped that pass, Bass missed that field goal, Dawkins missed that block, Kincaid didn't make that kick, and pretty much no one showed up against the Bengals. The facts are plain: The offense hasn't been good enough. 

    How can anyone say this with a straight face? At what point is the offense good enough? When they score 40/50 points?

     

    The offense has done more than enough to win a Superbowl. Watching our offense in the playoffs has been a high stakes affair.  Not because it is the playoffs but because every Bills fan including yourself knows the defense is not going to get a stop. Doesn't matter if it's the 1st or 4th quarter. Between the Ravens and Chiefs the Bills didn't have a single 4 and out. Good defenses don't rely on turnover luck. Would be nice to be able to breath on offense knowing if they don't convert the defense can actually manage a stop. 

     

    Any rational Bills fan has to be happy that Beane is finally throwing real weight at the secondary and DL. No more 4th wave budget free agency signings on the DL and no more slower unathletic 6th and 7th round dbs starting because they get the system and trusted the process.

     

    How can anyone who watched the Rams and Lions game come away thinking the offense is the issue? The Bills literally couldn't do anything more offensively and still lost one of those games and gave up 35 in the other. 

     

    The Bills play offense like a team who has no faith in their defense, and they shouldn't. 

     

    You gave Allen a top 5 OL, top 10 RB room, above avg TE room and a good mix of skills at receiver. 

     

    On defense you have budget signing Free Agents and late round draft picks across the board. Pretty clear which group needed the attention this offseason. 

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  20. Yeah....

     

    Don't really care. Anyone with a brain sees that our defense was horrendous last year and couldn't get a 4 and out to save their lives and constantly gave up field positioning. 

     

    So glad the defense was the main focal point of this draft and that they threw the entire kitchen sink at it. 

     

    Casual fans will be whining all season about the 4.3 receiver threat. Fans who understand the sport of football will be thankful when our defense isn't a pathetic sieve come January.

     

    Apparently having a top oline, great rb group, strong TE group, with a lot of room for internal improvement does not matter. Plenty of reasons to believe that Coleman and Kincaid make significant leaps this year.

     

    My lasting memory wasn't the offense. It was Lamar and Mahomes having their way with our pathetic dline and slow secondary that stands out. 

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  21. I want the Bills to add 3 things 

     

    SPEED in the secondary. Stop settling for high IQ, low athletic dbs and safeties. We need to go after high IQ high athletic dbs. 

     

    A DT who can create havoc with his pass rush. 

     

    A Run stuffing 1 Tech. 

     

    After that a EDGE with some juice and a take the top off receiver. 

     

    If the Bills hit on corner and DT I think they comfortably take another step.

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  22. 1 hour ago, msw2112 said:

     

    The Chiefs score this much against the Bills because they have to.  In other words, if the Bills had a lesser offense and scored fewer points, the Chiefs would play more conservatively and score fewer points, but still enough to win the game.  The Chiefs have the ability to do what is necessary to win the game and if that means opening up their offense to do it, then that's what they do.  The Chiefs scored 23 points against the Texans and it was more than enough to win, as the Texans only scored 14.  Had the Texans put up 28, the Chiefs would have scored in the 30s.

     

    This isn't to say that the Bills defense doesn't need to improve - it definitely does.  But it's an answer to the question of why the Chiefs score more against the Bills than against other teams.

    So the Niners, Bengals, and Ravens can't score like the Bills? I understand what you're saying, but it still comes down to the Bills defense being horrendous against good competition. 

     

    The Ravens, Chiefs, Eagles, Niners, Bengals, Rams all play one another much better defensively than the Bills do. Even the Ravens last week could've scored 14 more points easily if they didn't hand the game away through turnovers. 

    23 minutes ago, Drewski said:

    I'm not saying our defense didn't play poorly but don't act like the offense didn't struggle. It's a team sport 

    Offense scored 29 points. The offense by any metric played better than avg. The defense gave up 32 points. By every metric that is terrible. Especially when your offense didn't turn the ball over and give the opposing team a short field. Bills defense is the reason the Bills haven't broken through. 

     

    I've seen the Ravens, Niners, and Bengals all slow down Mahomes. The Bills can't do it. This is a issue and it needs to be addressed.

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  23. 55 minutes ago, peterpan said:

    I personally thought the D played well yesterday.  We lost because of offense.  Brady was terrible and I don’t want him back after such a horrible outing.  0/2 on 2 pt conversions.  Tush push was seemingly our only play and like a spoiled toddler he kept trying it no matter how much it didn’t work.  No one was schemed  open on passing plays.  Josh has to manufacture everything.  like the chiefs, who on 3rd/9 with the game on the line, schemed a dude wide the freak open for an easy 15 yards.  EASY.  
     

    where was that play for us Brady?!?!?  You have a dozen tries where’s the play!!  No play action with mid direction crossing route to a RB or TE to be wide open ?!  Why no pass to Alec Anderson the tackle eligible?!  There was nothing and it was embarrassing.

     

    josh Allen carries this whole team and especially Brady

    We scored more points on the Chiefs than any other team this year but the offense was terrible. OK. We gave up more points to the Chiefs this year than any other team this season but the defense was good. Just so we are on the same page. Giving up 32 points is a good day for the defense? 

     

    Sure they stepped up in the 2nd half but the damage was done. 32 points is not a good defensive outing against a Chiefs team who hadn't scored 30 all season.

    25 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

    Flawed argument as the Chiefs also give up a good amount of points to the Bills.  These games aren't blowouts and aside from 2020, they've all come down to the final drive.  

     

    You think this is bad, go look at what Rodgers defenses did to him in GB during the post season.  They gave up an average of 33.5ppg and they weren't playing Reid and Mahomes's Chiefs every game.  

    So the defense being atrocious is a flawed argument. I've heard everything now. So why do the Chiefs consistently score the most of the Bills defense vs. every other playoff team? They don't score this much on the Niners, Ravens, or Bengals. Just the Bills.

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