[Why the Josh Allen hate (draft reaction)?]

Also...

You pick a guy like Allen if you feel you have the coaches to coach them up.  Raw talent with sub par instruction (Coaching) equals a flop in the NFL.

 

[Why the Josh Allen hate (draft reaction)?]

I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times (but maybe my first time on this board)...

Thank God the fans don't run this team!

[JA just gets it]

I think it's great!  Never tired of it.  It's not that serious folks, just some playful banter between rivals.  No one is pinning it to their bulletin boards.  

 

[DHopkins would cost a 2nd round pick...would you do it?]

2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It's not a replacement pick. That's just a nice way of spinning things.

 

It's an entirely different pick. If we don't trade for DHop away, we would have TWO 3rd rounders. That's a LOT better than one.

 

This is simply a way to try to spin something people want. It's like people who win some money at the casino saying, "Hey, why not bet it, it's just house money." 

 

And it's not. That is a logical fallacy. Once you win it, it's not their money anymore. Assuming we will get a 3rd rounder for Edmunds, that's not a house pick. It's our pick. It's an asset that we can use to pick a player. If we trade it away, we won't have it anymore, we will have lost it, and it will not be replaced.

I totally get that! That's why I used the word "Almost". lol   Does not matter anyway, I forgot that would be for next year.  I was just saying that If we got the pick this year, it would help ease the blow of losing a second.  we would get D Hop and still have 6 picks.  Not even by any means, but I like getting a proven player, knowing he might be what we need for THIS YEAR to get over the hump.  

3 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

That 3rd is in the 2024 draft.

  forgot that minor detail.  

[DHopkins would cost a 2nd round pick...would you do it?]

Yes.  Won"t we get another 3rd rounder for losing Edmunds? Almost a replacement pick for the second we would give up for a proven player. 

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40 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

You can gain competitive advantages from false starts or illegal formations, but the 41st second on the play clock is completely irrelevant.

 

Either way, I guess the point is that no matter which it is, according to the rules, the play should not be allowed to go off.  unlike Offside which can result in a free play, pre snap penalties are dead ball.  No Play.  No free seconds, or 2 seconds.  I just believe it matters.  Agree to disagree.  

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1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

No, I'd be pretty pissed that we gave up a 4th/8 to lose a game and wouldn't care less that it happened one second later.

So, you wouldn't care if they missed a false start on that same play?  Sometimes it's only a twitch. Or an illegal formation? Sometimes it's only Inches off the line.

Why should 1 second be any different?  I'd be mad they gave up a 4th and 8 too.  But every team is supposed to get a specific time to get the play off.  if they don't its a penalty.  The 4th and 8 should have never happened.  

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9 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

No Simon we don't but if we're going to continue this ridiculous thread why not set the football to explode right at zero. Now that's what I call a dead ball. 

 

 

I don't think this is ridiculous.  It's a valid concern.  If the Dolphins convert a 4th and 8 to get into field goal range to win the game against us with 15 seconds left, but snapped the ball 1 second after the play clock ran out, you would be pretty pissed they were not set back 5 yards instead.  No exploding balls.  In the year 2023, we should be able to notify the ref in some way where he doesnt have to take his eye off the ball.  

[Sound a horn when play clock expires]

13 hours ago, Simon said:

The repeated pearl clutching over 1 meaningless second of game time never ceases to amaze me.

Do we really give a ***** about this?

Absolutely. Or at least we should.  How many big plays have happend in key moments when it clearly should have been a 5 yard penalty in the opposite direction?

[Matt Milano injury?]

Milano is starting to get some love from the media, but no where near where it is deserved.  I love how TV guys always look to the script and say "he's one of the best coverage backers".  While that is true and should be mentioned, have they watched this guy tackle??  He is one of the best linebackers, PERIOD.

[How in the hell did Nathaniel Hackett become an NFL head coach?]

My First Post!

I'm actually suprised more Special Teams Coaches (i.e. John Harbaugh) don't get hired as head coaches.  I would think they would have ability to see the bigger picture on how the team as a whole is run.  When the special teams play, it's always right after an importnat decicison by the head coach, or after what the coordinators do (Do we punt?, do we kick a field goal? Did we score a TD and now we are Kicking off?)

 

I always wished Bobby April would have been given the chance in Buffalo.