Donuts and Doritos
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5 hours ago, QCity said:
It didn't "burn" them. They received their pick a round later than anticipated. They're not going to change their entire front office philosophy because a handful of fans, who don't understand the system to begin with, are throwing a tantrum.
Not throwing a tantrum, don't really care. But "a handful of fans" "don't understand the system"? Really? The Bills Front Office thought they were getting a 3rd, so did all the pundits/experts & every fan (never heard anyone say different beforehand). If you watched Beane's comments on it, he said he was surprised and pissed about it (as he should have been). He said they checked w/ the league multiple times & were told they were on track for a 3rd. He said it changed some things bc he was relying on having that 3rd rounder when he traded away his 3rd for Rasul Douglas. He also mentioned it again post first round when he said he was glad they could recoup the 3rd in the trade back in the 1st w/ KC. I'm not advocating changing their philosophy. I don't need to, Beane's a smart guy he adapts & isn't going to be taken by surprise again. I'm pointing out the comp pick spots aren't 100% predictable & therefore 100% reliable when planning, that's just a fact.
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Noooo! Last time RG3 talked about a Bills WR & they responded, we ended up trading him. Stay away RG3.
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4 hours ago, NoSaint said:
it’s one of the first times in years there’s been a discrepancy in predicting them and it was 2 guys by 1 round.
while imperfect it’s still about 98% forecastable
& Yet it was 100% wrong when forecast for the Bills. It burned them this year. I wouldn't go relying on it again. Treat it like found money if/when you get it.
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These aren't the droids you're looking for.
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I like it. Now it's time for the big guy to take another big step this year.
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He'll turn 35 next season. Wheels gonna fall off that bus sooner than Kinkaid, Shakir or Coleman.
Remember Travis NFL stands for Not For Long.
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Nope. It's a 2 year reload. Step back this year in expectation of a leap forward next year. Terry's keeping them to make this transition.
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4 minutes ago, papazoid said:
you won't miss them
Miss who?
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"Transitioning."
They're turning over the roster to get younger & cheaper while building a 2nd group for Allen to lead. It looks like a multi year process, given that they drafted 10 but we're willing to trade back & have 10 more next year. Judging by what they drafted, they wanted solid foundational leadership pieces this year, not necessarily superstars, just solid good football players. It looks like they won't go all in this year, are willing to take a step back this year if necessary (though they'll still fight to compete) so they have the money & picks to really add some pieces next year. At least that's what I take from their moves & Beane's presser.
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1 minute ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:
I agree with your points except that it’s not Beanes fault that Diggs is going to turn into a complete cancer after giving him a huge extension and giving him 160 targets even though he lost a step. That’s 100% on Diggs.
I don't disagree. It did sound like the relationship was souring for a while behind the scenes & they finally had enough. I just wish Beane had ripped the band aid off sooner & sent him packing when we got rid of Mitch & the others so he had more time to take it into account for the draft. But that's rearview stuff now, I'm looking through the windshield toward next season with the new crew. Go Bill!
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28 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:
It’s amazing that crybabies like yourself think you can just magically replace a wr that has been a top wr over the last 4 years with pick 28 in the draft. I guess you didn’t realize that we can change the offensive gameplan and do things differently and still win games just like we did last year with diggs being a ghost. F*** diggs.
Why don't you actually read what I said. I'm not crying & I didn't say you can't change game plans. I also agree F*** Diggs.
I just disagree with the Topic's premise that Diggs made this WR room instead of Beane. Diggs leaving no more made this room than Davis leaving. The guy in charge who makes the decisions is Beane that's why we pay him & the buck stops with him. So whatever this WR room is, he made it. No more weak a** excuses, he's the boss he owns it.
We still have all of our main producers from the end of last season Kincaid, Shakir & Cook & we almost beat KC with them. Now we have Samuel & Coleman (I would expect that makes us better). If that turns out to be even better that's Beane's accomplishment not Diggs. Of course if we take a step back, that's Beane too (which is possible bc as Beane said at the presser we're transitioning the team to get younger, which I'm all for, but takes time to come together).
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Beane relied on Diggs and ignored the signs there was a problem there (kind of like he did w/ Gabe Davis). Beane chose to trade Diggs. Beane was in charge of the plan to replace him & Beane made the draft picks we made & passed on the WR we chose not to draft. Kind of hard to say Beane bears no responsibility with a straight face.
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Starting to wonder if Beane's plan is to trade some of next year's 13 picks to get a vet WR? Cause he sure isn't interested in adding a quality 2nd WR draft pick, which is disappointing IMO.
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8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:
You don’t want your franchise Quarterback having a significant say in who he’s going to throw the ball to? Really?
Right a say, not make the picks like Aaron Rodgers (which is what this report sounds like happened. There is a difference). I want my GM & scouting department to make the pick. It's what we pay them for. I want my franchise QB to work on improving his game in the off-season, & I don't mean golf 😉. That's what we pay him for.
The report makes it sound like Josh all but picked Coleman (that's more than a say). Why would the Bills & Beane want that reported? Maybe bc then we have to like the pick bc Josh picked him & it absolves Beane if the pick is a bust bc then it was Josh's fault? & What if he is a bust? (I know I have doubts). Then shouldn't we be saying why are you letting your QB play GM? (that's what folks are saying about Aaron Rodgers in NY). Frankly, they were better off not putting that out there & we would be none the wiser.
Time will tell. If he's good then Josh is brilliant & should be GM. If he sucks, then no Josh should not be making picks. I really hope Coleman is a monster & Josh is a genius. Go Coleman Go Bills!
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Well Josh likes him & I like Josh so that means I have to like him. But if he sucks then I'll have to blame Josh & want Josh fired from the GM job he doesn't have.
Wonder what Beane does now that Josh makes the picks?
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I hate everyone @ 1 Bills Drive.
Joe Marino & Kyle Crabs saying his comp is Gabe Davis as if that's comforting.
I have to go play in traffic now.
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I wish God was an option.
I pray every game for God to help us win. Might as well get God under contract & on the field to answer my prayers.
Since God's not an option guess I'll go McConkey.
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1 minute ago, NewEra said:
And the point that KCs WR room clearly wasn’t good enough in December of 2024. Then suddenly it was. We’re going to add a WR they think will get the job done. Then it’s up to the coaches and individuals to put in the work and make plays on game days
I hear ya. They did have Travis Kelce (I get he didn't have a great SB but he was good otherwise). It's looking like short of getting an established vet, we will be relying on Kincaid taking a step toward being Kelce.
I also get that the end of the season Kincaid, Shakir & Cook were leading the receptions without a lot of consistent contributions from Diggs Davis. I'm good with moving on from them. I want to know there's a plan & I'm having trouble seeing it. I'm worried this WR room will not get a significant upgrade & I actually think as a whole it's not as good as what KC had. But as has been pointed out, Beane isn't done working yet. So I'll have to practice improving my patience.
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52 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Hello.
It's April 26th
The season starts in September.
That Is All
OK, no, I lied. One more thing. If your concern is Troy Franklin being "skinnier than a marathon runner", how do you describe the skinniness of Xavier Worth? Did he get beefier because KC drafted him?
The breakdowns ahead of the draft say Franklin struggles w/ press coverage and blocking on film. Worthy is shorter & faster, they have a tougher time getting hands on him.
Now in fairness I'm not sure Worthy's frame holds up when he does get hit & they said he did have some drops & some concentration issues.
My point is our WR room is not nearly good enough & I don't see the remaining players on the board fixing that (also have an issue w/ compensation received but that's a different issue). There's no WR 1 available there.
But the idea of trading for a SF WR is interesting & could fill that immediate hole. Hoping you're right & Beane pulls something off before the season. Not thrilled, but I'm trying to accept it, & be a windshield person instead of a rearview mirror person (look forward instead of backward).
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Adonai Mitchell - takes plays off
Troy Franklin - too thin & light
Ladd McConkey - Shakir 2.0
Keon Coleman - project
Javon Baker - lines up mostly 1 side
Jalynn Polk
Recent Hits
AJ Brown
Dk Metcalf - these 2 were Legette comps
Not seeing a #1 WR available in draft, just nice role players.
Little hard to Relax when the
WR room currently bottom 5 & there doesn't appear to be a plan. Maybe we get a Hail Mary Trade for an established vet WR 1. 🤞
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Not Mitchell he has attitude & busy written all over him. DeJean sticks out like a sore thumb. But our WR room is laughable at thee moment.
2025 comp picks - good 1st day for that
in The Stadium Wall
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Actually, if you read the entire thing it is what I originally said:
"Comp picks are fake. Don't count on them. They reviewed this year's again & still kept us & SF at 4th round but gave Cincy a 3rd round. Totally not worth it. No one seems to really understand the supposed "formula", Beane & the experts said it would be a 3rd & planned accordingly. We'll give up talent & end up with a 7th next year. Until they fix it so the process is transparent & everyone can understand it & know what they'll actually get, it's about as real as the Easter bunny and as reliable as Nathan Peterman in the 1st half of a Bills game. " (Emphasis added)
Over the top, overly dramatic? Absolutely. Inartful? Perhaps. But the point is the same, they're hard to forecast & rely on in planning. Obviously, they exist, sure they're certainly useful. My complaint is relying on the predicted round you'll actually get & relying on it to make plans. It's counting your chickens before they're hatched & taking it as certain you're going to get that pick in that round (or 3rd) only to have it turn out that the pick is in a lower round (ie 4th). In that sense the 3rd round pick was a mirage, wasn't real, bc you never had it you only ever had the lower round pick.
IMO it's better to treat them like found money then when they come in you won't be disappointed where they come in. But honestly I posted about this originally way back on March 11th & have moved on to our draft picks & the upcoming schedule, so I don't really care. Just hoping the new pieces work out, mesh well & our retooled team can get it done this year. Go Bills!