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The Super Bowl has gotten unbelievably competitive over the last decade. So I don't even agree with the original premise.
2024: Chiefs 25, 49ers 22 - multi-possession OT under new rules. All-time classic.
2023: Chiefs 38, Eagles 35 - chiefs rally from 10 pts down, kick game-winning FG with seconds left
2022: Rams 23, Bengals 20 - game-ending sack kills bengals late rally attempt
2021: Bucs 31, Chiefs 9 - game sucked, but fitting for the covid year
2020: Chiefs 31, 49ers 20 - score not indicative of the game, chiefs trailed by 10 with 8:30 left and hit a 3rd-and-15 to revive their chances
2019: Patriots 13, Rams 3 - snooze fest
2018: Eagles 41, Patriots 33 - Philly Special, great game
2017: Patriots 34, Falcons 28 - Pats rally from 28-3 down, win in overtime. All-time classic.
2016: Broncos 24, Panthers 10 - boring game, uncompelling matchup, game sucked.
2015: Patriots 28, Seahawks 24 - arguably best finish in super bowl history, INT at goal line instead of Lynch running from 1 yd out. All-time classic.
Overall there have been way more good Super Bowls than bad since the '99 Rams-Titans game.
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Rice will be punished much more severely by the NFL than he will be by the law. I would bet a lot of money on that. Rice's lawyer is a Texas state senator, Rice doesn't have a history of trouble, KC's owner went to the same school as Rice (SMU) and is also the richest man in Dallas with strong ties to the area that remain today. The level of transparency being brought forth by the lawyer suggests to me that they know Rice will get a slap on the wrist based on Texas law and their connections with people that matter. I think the self accountability act is more directed toward the NFL/Goodell. And it will fail. Even though this isn't comparable to the Henry Ruggs case, I think Goodell will want to come down hard on the speeding/reckless driving aspect of this incident and send a message.
Minimum suspension: 4 games.
Most likely suspension: 6 games.
Possible suspension: 8 games.
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it's 10.8 grams. that's equivalent to 0.38 ounces. which is nothing, and certainly doesn't rise to felony.
these aggregator accounts are awful.
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NEVER trade up for a wide receiver unless you have absolutely unmatched levels of conviction that he's gonna be a superstar. What have we seen in past drafts to suggest that NFL GM's are particularly skilled at properly rating receivers?
2023 WRs drafted in order: Smith-Njigba, Quentin Johnson, Zay Flowers, Jordan Addison.
2022 (in order): Drake London, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Jameson Williams, Jahan Dotson, Treylon Burks
2021 (in order): Henry Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy, Ceedee Lamb, Jalen Reagor, Justin Jefferson, Brandon Aiyuk
2020 (in order): Jamarr Chase, Jaylen Waddle, Davonta Smith, Kadarius Toney, Rashod Bateman
A few years prior, we saw Corey Davis, Mike Williams and John Ross all go top 10 in the draft. The year prior, Round 1 WRs consisted of Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, Laquan Treadwell.
Kevin White was a semi recent top 10 WR.
The Bills took Sammy Watkins fourth overall in 2014.
I would obviously much rather draft 8th or 18th than 28th. But spending draft capital to move into those spots - which merely earns you the opportunity to guess wrong at extra cost - when you have a reasonable chance of getting someone just as good if not better later in the draft at no additional risk - doesn't seem like the correct move. Especially with a roster that could benefit from building depth at other positions.
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there was one kickoff return TD the entire XFL season and i believe it was in the very first game.
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1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said:
According to this KC would have gotten the same 3rd round pick if they just let Sneed walk. That means all they really got was the 7th!
There's no guarantee it would have been a third rounder, and even if it was, it would be at the end of the 3rd round aka it's basically an early 4th. If the Titans are a non playoff team as expected, KC will pick mid-3rd round at worst.
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2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
You can put down any stats you want (which Hollywood wins) but then everyone will say because Samuels hasn't played with a good QB. So then we are guessing at who is better and yet we gave him more money based on Beane scouting him coming out of college 7 years ago which doesn't give me a lot of confidence. I just watch the tape and make my own conclusions. Hollywood is much better, better hands, much more dynamic. He will be a 1000 yard guy in KC. Samuels will be lucky to get to Gabe Davis levels. He's a converted RB and he looks like it when he catches the ball. We know who the bigger name is but watch the tape and see for yourself
Brady's familiarity with Samuel, and Samuel already being familiar with Brady's system (or at least terminology) makes me think this has a good chance of working out just fine for the Bills. Free agency is a crap shoot, especially at the receiver position, because it can be hard to fully understand:
a) why or why not a player was or wasn't successful at the previous stop
b) how exactly the acquired player will fit your scheme
c) what the player's work ethic/leadership ability looks like
Brady knows the answer to all three of these questions.
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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Mahomes. And Reid's play design and play calling. With those two at the helm, they can work with pretty much any WR as long as they catch the ball.
And when in doubt, they're going to Kelce anyways.
KC put it together in the playoffs, but think people are forgetting that there was a full-season sample size of their offense being pretty mediocre. The Chiefs finished with two more TDs than...the Broncos. And they scored 25 fewer points than the Colts and Browns, who both used backup QBs the entire year. There's only so much a great QB and play caller can do against defenses that can defend against essentially a 15-yard field because no deep threat exists and no WRs can get open (and when they do, they drop it.) Rashee Rice's usage going way up late saved the season.
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4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:
This is way better news then adding Mike Williams imo. Brown has always (at least to me) been a 1 trick pony. He'll be an upgrade over MVS and should obviously do well with mahomes throwing to him but I would have hated to see Mike Williams end up there.
Why would this signing preclude them from taking Mike Williams out of curiosity? Brown costs 7 mill vs this year's cap. After the Mahomes restructure, KC had about 15-16 mill in cap space for 2024. If they trade Sneed as expected, that will clear another 20 mill. So KC would have about 28 mill in cap space with no obvious holes anywhere on the roster other than a likely desire to add another receiver and someone to compete for the job at left tackle.
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10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Bills felt WR1 and WR2 were set. Chiefs traded WR1 for a lot of draft assets. Chiefs haven’t felt set at WR1 or WR2 since 2021. There’s a big difference.
I wouldn't say the Bills have neglected WR as much as people here suggest. They traded for Diggs, who was and/or certainly became a top-5 receiver in the league. He wasn't cheap. They signed John Brown who had a great 2019 season (72 catches, 1060 yards), then flamed out a year later. They signed Cole Beasley in 2019, and he posted two really good seasons and had a solid third year. There were reasons to think Isaiah McKenzie could take over in the slot, but he fell out of favor with McDermott and obviously underachieved. Everyone here (rightly) thought Gabe Davis would turn into a superstar after the 2021 Divisional playoff loss. The Bills were widely considered to have one of the best 1-2 punches in the league. Davis then was hit-or-miss the rest of his tenure. The Bills have made some low-risk, high-upside efforts at filling out the WRs corps with Crowder, Sherfield, Harty. Crowder was legitimately an exciting addition but got injured instantly. Shakir showed promise and got a bigger role as time went on and now appears to be a long-term option.
I don't know. When you're paying top dollar for Diggs and had what you thought was your #2 in Davis, while having solid vets like Brown and Beasley in prior years, I can certainly understand why the Bills weren't going all-in on drafting receivers. Besides, they've been drafting at the end of the 1st round. Some of these drafts have been pretty top-heavy with the elite WRs.
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2 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:
Tells you what the league thinks "Hollywood" is worth
He reportedly had quite a few suitors, but is choosing to bet on himself in 2024 in hopes of getting a bigger payday next year.
Also, how do you say no to this?
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7 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Agreed, but compare that to us.Chiefs gave out a solid contract to MVS and now Hollywood. We finally gave one to Samuel for the first time since trading for Diggs.
Chiefs have drafted back to back RD2 WR’s. Bills haven’t drafted anywhere higher than the 4th Round for Allen.
Of course, all this is possible because they have Kelce. Let’s hope Kincaid can become our version of that.
The Bills have invested heavily in their defense over the last five years and had top-5 units four of the last five. The Chiefs largely invested in their offense (ie bolstered the OL after the loss to the Bucs in the Super Bowl) and for a bit had fairly expensive Tyreek and Kelce — but the defense was average to below average for Mahomes' first five years.
The past two drafts, the Chiefs have invested in their defense and tried to go the budget receiver route. That backfired. But their defense became a top-5 unit. The Chiefs scored 7 fewer points per game en route to winning Super Bowl #3 than they scored en route to winning Super Bowl #1.
If the Bills go all-in on offense this year and have holes all over the defense, and lose a playoff game because the D can't get off the field, people will complain about the defense being not good enough and will want the Bills to upgrade the defense.
It's really hard to be good on both sides of the ball. Amazingly, Buffalo has been top-5 on both sides of the ball at the same time more than any team in the NFL over the last five years. These have been good teams that came up short.
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4 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
When you have a great QB you’re able to do that and still win Superbowls. Why can’t we get on this strategy? We have a great qb too.If you're allocating 15%-20% of your cap space to the QB then you basically have to save money on your wide receivers.
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9 minutes ago, SCBills said:
My point isn’t about the product on the field.It’s about the fact that the FO very clearly has tried to set Mahomes up with help.
Fair enough, but similar to this one, it's always been with low-risk moves. Tyreek was a 5th rounder (and was drafted for Alex Smith). Veach hasn't spent a top-50 pick on a receiver in the Mahomes era and has generally gone after after-thoughts (ie the always-injured Watkins, JuJu on an incentive-based deal, bad-attitude Toney in a trade, MVS the budget-friendly deep threat, reacquiring Hardman for a 6th-round pick, Justyn Ross as an undrafted free agent, etc.)
Hollywood appears to be the same type of deal they gave JuJu.
I could be wrong, but I think the Chiefs' general philosophy is that it doesn't make sense to pay big money for a #1 receiver. Most #1s can be taken out by an elite cornerback (look no further than what KC's CBs did to Tyreek, Diggs, and Deebo in the Super Bowl.) You really win with depth and being able to have your #3 and #4 beat the other team's depth corners.The Chiefs thought they had a deep young WR corps this past year and were obviously wrong, so that backfired in a sense. And they really haven't been able to put together a great top-to-bottom receiving corps in the Mahomes era. But they've tried (and mostly failed) to put together deep rooms post Tyreek rather than a star driven WR room.
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8 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
Now do the year before that. Or don't cherry pick stats and do their whole careers. Chiefs got the better player for the better deal
Will be his first year in a true pass-first system.
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31 minutes ago, SCBills said:
“Chiefs never give Mahomes any WR help”
Tyreek Hill
MVS
RD2 Pick
Trade for a former RD1 Pick
Juju
RD2 Pick
Hollywood Brown
All while having an All-Time Tight EndNot all of that has worked out, but this narrative has.. and will always be.. hilarious
Mahomes' receivers in the last four Super Bowls:
Mecole Hardman, Tyreek Hill, Justin Watson, MVS, Richie James, Justyn Ross, Rashee Rice, Kadarius Toney, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Skyy Moore, Marcus Kemp, Gehrig Dieter, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson, Sammy Watkins.
Post-Tyreek, it's been especially terrible.
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Looks like this is gonna be a 1-year rental with him getting some incentives. Basically playing for a contract. Dirt cheap in the grand scheme of things and doesn't mean KC still won't make a play for another WR (possibly trading Sneed for one). They'll for sure take a WR with one of their first two picks.
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Arik Armstead, Buffalo Bill from 4:01:05pm to 4:01:40pm.
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brock purdy, jalen hurts, jimmy garoppolo, jared goff, nick foles, cam newton, joe flacco, colin kaepernick, rex grossman, matt hasselbeck, jake delhomme, kerry collins, trent dilfer, brad johnson and chris chandler have all QB'd teams to the super bowl.
there's a lot of variance in this stuff, and luck is definitely a factor.
the bills have had a top-5 level defense most years of the allen era (top 10 at worst) and the offense has been top-5 in recent years as well. one AFC title game appearance and a 5-5 playoff record is a monster underachieve given that, but that's how it goes sometimes. the bills will break through to at least a super bowl appearance if the next five years look like the last five years.
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The NFL has acknowledged an error in their compensatory pick awarding process.
They've now awarded a 3rd rounder.
To...the Bengals.
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Wow. Jones is only going to count for 2.9% against KC's cap in 2024.
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4 hours ago, NoSaint said:
If they are trying to get out after 3 the restructure after doesn’t really make it easier to do. I feel like a lot of folks just throwing those terms around Willy nilly"you can just restructure" is the NFL version of seinfeld's "you can just write it off."
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i get that the bills have no choice but to restructure allen, but he has counted less than 10% against the cap the last few years, including this past year. the depth on the roster wasn't good enough to overcome injuries. now his cap figure is going to be about double what it's been for remaining years on his contract, and that's before taking into account that he deserves a new deal. the bills have to start crushing drafts. endless restructures, void year contracts etc is not sustainable.
Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State
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Can someone explain to me how you think the Bills-Chiefs trade came together? Who says what first? Do the Chiefs tell the Bills who they are taking? I don't get it.