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7 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
You have already said multiple times Allen is better, i get it....you have already said it was a fact so why do you keep harping about it? If it is a FACT and isnt debakle why do you keep debating it?
No Fuller was suspended, he wasnt hurt this year because he was taking PEDs so he wouldnt get hurt. He could never complete a year with the Texans but think otherwise.
You think the Texans are as good as the Bills excluding the QBs that is your call.
Ok, I'll bite. Let me use your logic:
The Jets are not nearly as good as the Chiefs.
"If Darnold and Mahomes swapped teams, Darnold would be better! Look how much better the team is around Mahomes!"
^^^This is essentially what you are arguing.
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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
DO NOT put words in my mouth or distort what I say.
I am not trying to construct an argument either way.
I am pointing out that total QBR is a weak reed in a "my QB is better" argument and why.
Many people have pointed out many times that W-L is a team statistic, thus it is also a weak reed in that argument. Upthread, someone pointed out accurately that you are cherry-picking stats by selecting TD.
Me, I'm starting to suspect some good 'ol trolling
I'm cherrypicking the most important stats, u mean?
The name of the game is to score Touchdowns.
Allen scored 10 more Touchdowns.
The MVP this year, Aaron Rodgers, led the NFL in Touchdowns. So I would say it's a pretty important stat.
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2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:
What does that even mean?
I think some people have tried to interact with you on this topic reasonably. You, on the other hand, are too busy declaring your argument infallible to respond in kind.
As a Bills fan why are you even trying to argue that Watson is better than Allen?
Like, what is the point?
Even if the gap was tiny...wouldn't you rather support your own guy? Dork.
Why are you so emphatic in arguing the other side? Are you related to Watson or something? Weirdo.
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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
If your entire argument is based on total QBR, I would say the same
I suspect everyone here will stop responding to you soon owing to the great depth and quality of the ensuing discussion.
Josh Allen > Deshaun Watson
There's nothing to even debate.
You guys are arguing that 2+2=5.
I am arguing that 2+2=4.
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1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:
Wow. You're a special sort, eh? Dunning-Kruger. Look it up. And have a nice day. Go Bills.
Wow, you totally have the support of your franchise QB.
Look at you go.
Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:If your entire argument is based on total QBR, I would say the same
Option A)
15-4, 82 Total QBR, 46 Total Touchdowns
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Option B)
4-12, 71 Total QBR, 36 Total Touchdowns
Me: A > B
You: B > A
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"Hey guys, if these QBs swapped teams...."
^^^is not a valid argument.
If your entire argument is based on a pure hypothetical...then you have no argument.
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5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
Because he didnt finish the season and he has never finished a season. He is chronically hurt, that is why he was left out.
Cant even begin to compare the Texans team to the Bills, not even close.
Yep that PROVES your point.
You are stating an opinion as fact , i would elaborate but not interested in getting an infraction from a mod, not today maybe another day.
15-4, 82 Total QBR
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4-12, 71 Total QBR
You have no argument other than a pure hypothetical "Hey, what if these QBs swapped teams?". A hypothetical is not a real argument.
Try again.
1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:Tone down the self-satisfaction here. You don't KNOW anything you're stating in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lines of this post. You just don't.
I'd like to agree with you, but I'm not 100% certain Allen is superior to Watson yet. Deshaun Watson is effing awesome.
Yeah, he's 4-12 awesome.
4-12 is just soooo awesome, man!
Wow!
2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:Tone down the self-satisfaction here. You don't KNOW anything you're stating in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lines of this post. You just don't.
I'd like to agree with you, but I'm not 100% certain Allen is superior to Watson yet. Deshaun Watson is effing awesome.
Allen is better.
I am 200% certain Allen is better.
You're a bit slow to catch on...and that's ok. Not everybody gets it right away. You will.
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Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:
Because he didnt finish the season and he has never finished a season. He is chronically hurt, that is why he was left out.
Cant even begin to compare the Texans team to the Bills, not even close.
He still played in 11 games. And he didn't get "hurt" this season. Nice try. Those 11 games he played certainly impacted Watson's stats. Nice try.
I don't need to compare the Texans team to the Bills team. I am comparing the Texans QB to the Bills QB. Josh is a better QB than Watson.
I repeat: Josh Allen is a better NFL QB than Deshaun Watson. He's just better, it's not debatable, it's a fact.
32 out of 32 NFL GMs would take Josh over Watson. Heck, there was a report before the AFC ship game that a large chunk of executies think Allen > Mahomes. That shows you how highly executives in the NFL view Allen.
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28 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
This is what it looks like when you are cherry picking stats.
Except I take Donald Duck more seriously.
Not really cherrypicking. Total QBR factors in a whole bunch of things. Josh's QBR was 11 points higher.
Josh is clearly the better QB.
32 out of 32 NFL GMs would take Allen in a heartbeat.
This discussion is silly because I am 100% right and you are 100% wrong.
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49 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
LOL.
I love the use of highly selected facts and then the need to declare yourself victorious.
"Don't even try and argue with this. Accept it as fact, because it is so, and move on.
What a bombastic arrogant statement.
Did you even read or comprehend what I wrote? There is a difference between the two teams. You never answered my question, what would Watson numbers look like is he had Diggs and Beasley and Allen had Kekee Coutee and Brandin Cooks.
Oh and speaking of FACTS, somehow you forgot these stats
Watson : pass yard 4,823 Quarterback Rating 112.4 Int 7 Rushing : 444 yard Fumbles 8
Allen: pass yards 4,544 Quarterback Rating 107.2 Int 10 Rushing 421 Fumbles 9
What about Will Fuller for 11 games?
Why did you purposely leave that out? There you go with your "selective stats". Leave out the #1 WR who played in 11 games. Convenient.
Once again, Total QBR:
Allen = 82
Watson = 71
This is pathetic that you're even trying to argue Allen clearly being a better QB than Watson.
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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Just because you say things this way, doesnt make them true. And that's a fact. Point blank. Book it. End of discussion. 🙄
Total QBR:
Allen = 82
Watson = 71
Total TDs:
Allen = 46
Watson = 36
Run along now.
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3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:
What's the problem with putting Watson over Allen? I love Josh but the fact is he's only been elite for one year. Watson has been doing it for a while now. And this season he was great with a terrible team around him. Talk about a competitor. Whatever people think about him demanding a trade, the fact is he was sensational on a really bad team and was still playing his ass off in a meaningless week 17 game, dragging his team up and down the field.
The problem is that Josh Allen is simply a better Quarterback than Deshaun Watson. Simple as that. Your excuses don't change that fact. Allen is the better QB. Point blank.
1) Stop giving Watson so much credit for going 4-12. He went 4-12. That's a bad thing, not a good thing.
2) Watson was drafted in 2017. He has 1 career playoff win. Allen was drafted in 2018. He has 2 career playoff wins.
3 minutes ago, Figster said:Yet he beat us last season, hmmmm
I wasn't talking about last season.
Stay on topic please.
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1 minute ago, Figster said:
True
Although isn't it reasonable to think If you swaped QB's the numbers and win/loss might be similar?
Nope.
If Watson was the Bills QB in the Wild Card round, the Bills lose to the Colts, and Watson would have been One and Done.
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Will Fuller
Will Fuller
Will Fuller
Will Fuller
Will Fuller
For me, it's Will Fuller or Bust for free agency.
Will Fuller is the Bills ONLY hope of competing with the Chiefs next season.
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9 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
For my sake? I think Watson is better or shall i say was better this year than Allen. I expect with his work ethic and smarts Allen will be better next year. Watson had similar numbers to Allen on a substantially worse team. Imagine Allen if he didnt have Diggs & Beasley this year.
Allen was clearly better than Watson in 2020. Clearly. Not even debatable.
Total QBR:
Allen = 82
Watson = 71
Total TDs:
Allen = 46
Watson = 36
Record:
Allen = 15-4
Watson = 4-12
Don't even try and argue with this. Accept it as fact, because it is, and move on.
4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:Watson is awesome, but he has one big flaw in his game: he takes too many sacks. Over four seasons, he's never had less than an 8.2 percent sack rate (he was 8.3 percent this year). Allen got his to 4.3 this season, which is excellent. He was at 8.0 in 2018 and 7.6 in 2019. Sacks basically kill possessions, and getting sacked once out of every 23 dropbacks vs. once out of ever 12 dropbacks has a huge effect on a game. They steal possessions from you.
Exactly. Watson is a fatally flawed QB. Zero pocket presence and Sack machine. His complete lack of pocket presence and feel for the rush, essentially forced Bill OBrien to trade for the game's #1 pure pass-protecting Left Tackle (Tunsil). Obrien knew that Watson needs an elite LT to function.
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Will Fuller.
The Bills need to sign Will Fuller this offseason. (After cutting J Brown)
You can get him at a discount due to the PED suspension.
This is the Bills window to get a steal.
10 minutes ago, letsgoteam said:Hopefully this off season begins the "veteran free agent who is wanting a chance for a ring, comes in at below market value for that reason" thing.
Will Fuller would be perfect.
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4 minutes ago, Boxcar said:
Niners are interesting. They would be clear SB favourites on the NFC side for years to come.
How so?
Watson to the Niners is an awful fit.
Kyle Shanahan is looking for an elite game manager type to operate his run-first scheme. Make quick reads, quick decisions, get rid of the ball quickly.
That is the opposite of Watson's game.
Watson is a freelancer who likes to hold onto the football and play out of structure, and look for the deep ball.
Niners with Watson < Niners with Jimmy G. Jimmy G is a much much better fit for that scheme than Watson.
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Max Kellerman: "Besides Patrick Mahomes, nobody has more trade value.....Deshaun Watson is better than Josh Allen"
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Bills Mafia...we ain't about to let this slide, are we?
Let them hear about it in the comment section.
6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Allen, Wilson....cant put Brady in there
I hope u didn't just rank Watson over Allen. For your sake.
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Alabama RG Deonte Brown
1) Resign Daryl Williams
2) Let Feliciano walk
3) Draft RG Deonte Brown
2021 Bills OL
LT Dion Dawkins
LG Ike Boettger / Cody Ford
C Mitch Morse
RG Deonte Brown
RT Daryl Williams
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
Okay so he'll go to a team with no offensive weapons and a bad o-line, and to get Watson they'll have to give up draft picks they could have otherwise used to get some weapons. Good luck with that.
Right.
From 4-12 with the Texans, to 4-12 with the Jets.
That would be defined as a "lateral move".
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All this talk and time dedicated to a 4-12 QB.
Weird.
Watson would go 4-12 with the Jets just like he went 4-12 with the Texans.
If he loses with the Texans, wouldn't he lose with the Jets?
Has anybody stopped and thought about that?
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Too bad he's staying in Houston and is never going to win didly squat.
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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
OR ... they are both really good
OR...Daboll is just an average coach and Allen is an all-time player.
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28 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
But then you have the common thought that the Bills won’t want to pay him. The guy is a LB. not a LT or a CB or a QB. The contract won’t even be that big. Also you can always play with money to get under the cap. No team ever has an issue going over. There are plenty of tricks. You absolutely need to bring Milano back. Tre White and Milano being here was the turnaround that ended this drought. He’s not going to bankrupt us. Milano needs to be back. Period.
Daryl Williams >>>>>>>> Matt Milano
In no way shape or form should the Bills prioritize Milano over D Williams
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Deshaun Watson officially requests trade from Houston
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted
If Darnold and Mahomes swapped teams, Darnold would be better! Look how much better the team is around Mahomes!"
^^^This is essentially what you are arguing.