[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I left it open with the "until proven otherwise."  But if you were the Redskins' GM, which QB in this draft would you stake your career on, much less with a trade up?

None, but then again I’m not paid to asses QB’s so my opinion means squat.  If Watson is cleared of the charges I’d imagine he’d be the priority.  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

2 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

Which QB is Washington trading up for? 

No idea if they would favor a QB in the draft or they are targeting DW or another vet.  

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

They can't be looking to trade Young and/or any other player for a chance to move up in this year's draft.  There are no franchise QBs (until proven otherwise).  It has to be for a veteran franchise QB.  My guess is Watson.

This is what I’m thinking as well.  But then again, most draft analysts had Allen as a bust and the other QBs in the draft as can’t miss franchise QB’s.  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

13 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yes. Thanks for the reminder. 

 

Please keep teaching me about football; I have so much to learn from you. Do bring up some more trade scenarios in which we give up years of draft picks for a defender but next time, make it a trade for a defensive back, OK? 👍👌👍 

Trading draft picks for a stud DE has never helped any team win a championship…oh wait.  

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

I put him on ignore long ago.  Do yourself a favor.  Do the same.
 

I forgot he existed until this insightful thread made its way into my life.  

You put me on ignore because I called you out for being a D to other posters.  Keep it real bud!

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

I understand this Bro and a part of me pines for the "good old days" when Jack Tatum could flat out destroy receivers over the middle, even on incomplete passes 3 feet over the receiver's outstretched arms. I also miss Earl Campbell just running into defenders and knocking them into next week. 

 

The thing is, those days are all but gone. Brady at 44? Years ago he might not have made it to 34.  Josh Allen is the real deal and the answer to the Bills problems....providing he stays healthy.  He needs better weapons and he needs better blocking. When he gets these things, we will win a Super Bowl, perhaps several of them.

 

I hope that we can have a cyber handshake and agree to disagree. 👍🙂🏈

 

As always, the above is jmo.

Do you need to be reminded Josh had us 90 seconds and 13 seconds away from most likely an NFL championship and the Defense completely failed him?  Defense wins championships…ask the Bengals I’m sure they would agree.  

4 hours ago, mannc said:

Good lord…it truly is going to be a long offseason around here.  

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

3 hours ago, Rigotz said:

 

In 9 games last year:

1.5 Sacks

3 tackles for loss

2 forced fumbles 

0 fumbles recovered

 

I don’t know about you, but I’m ready to crown him a Hall of Famer.

 

 

How’d he do the previous year?  Who said anything about the HOF?  He had a solid rookie campaign 7.5 sacks, 4FF, 3 FR, and crowned DROY.  We don’t have a single DE on this team that can effectively rush the passer.  Rousseau is still an unknown and everyone else most likely wouldn’t be starters on any team in the league.  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Young had just 1.5 sacks in 9 healthy games and then suffered an ACL tear.  No thanks.  I'm not taking the risk.

Are sacks the only metric we’re looking at?  How about TFL, QB Hurries/pressures, FF, FR?  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

54 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

You would be royally pissed at Beane if he signed a guy that will miss at least 80% of the year.

Not if was only for the remainder of the season after he missed the 80% of the year. 

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

6 minutes ago, Process said:

We are already SB favorites....

 

I have zero interest in giving up multiple 1st round picks and a monster contract for a DE. 

He’s on the 3rd year of his rookie deal.  It’s not a monster contract.

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

46 minutes ago, klos63 said:

So you want to trade Allen for him?

The picks provide them Ammo to trade for one.  

40 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

They should go knocking on the Texans door. No other team with a franchise QB is giving him up for Chase Young.

Most draft experts aren’t predicting QB’s to go in the first couple picks this year.  Maybe they need the ammo to get to #1 or #2 similar to how the Bills moved up for Allen.  It’s a stretch, regardless.  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

18 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Starting over with a good pass rusher on a rookie deal seems like a good idea.  Why on earth would they want to trade him?

Reports are they are willing to part with him to get a franchise QB.  

19 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

All name no game.

 

Please do explain.  He has been great every year except this year because he was hurt.  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

2 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Not interested. Hard pass. We don't need him.

At no point did you say anything that can be considered a rational thought.  We are all now dumber for having read your reply.  I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.  

[What would it take to get Chase Young?]

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761
 

Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB.  A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites.  What would fair market value be?  Do we have the ammo?  Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2.  

[Cover 1 Salary Cap Spectacular!]

10 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Pretty much but every year you have the fans talking about this free agent or that free agent we’re not bringing any of those free agents

To be fair, over the last 2-3 years, the Bills have been rumored to be in the mix with a lot of top end free agents.  Now that Brady is retired and the Chiefs have no cap space, the vets seeking a ring might be looking at Buffalo even at a discount.  

[SB Halftime show]

On 2/13/2022 at 5:54 PM, klos63 said:

yeah, which part of the population do you think the OP was talking about when he said only they like this music?

Obviously you and the OP have never been to a rap concert.  Every one I’ve been too is 60-80% white.  When I was a kid growing up in the 80/90’s all of my white friends (even the ones that listened to country) listened to rap and later hip hop.  To answer your question “they” isn’t race to me it’s “fans of hip hop” that the OP was referring too.  I recommend trying to understand peoples posts prior to jumping to judgement.  Regardless of what some media outlets say about humanity, most people in our society mean well.  

[Should there be an NFL Lottery?]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

I doubt it would do much to prevent tanking. 

Agree, it hasn’t stopped the Sabres from tanking the last 5 years.  

[Who do you want as QB 2 in 2022]

15 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

If Sam Darnold was outright cut and was cheap I think Beane would jump at getting him.  He was the #1 QB on their board

 Can you provide any evidence to support this claim?  

[Joe Brady for QB Coach? [Now Hired]]

Daboll who? 

[Ken Dorsey - would he choose OC here or leave to be Daboll's OC?]

42 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The Giants won't be drafting a QB this year or next because they think Daboll can fix him and will be picking up his 5th year option (for 2023).  That's obvious and moot.  But while Daboll may or may not love Jones, the Giants will be picking a QB in 2024 and Daboll and Dorsey, if he goes there, will be looking for a new job.  Again Jones' problem are mental and having to learn a new system won't help him a lot.  Meanwhile the Giants are way over the cap and will have to shed players.

Doc I think this is a reach.  If I’m a new GM or HC I’m not hanging my hat on Jones.  First thing I’m doing is calling GB to see what they want for AR.  The Giants have 2 first round picks to offer.  The next thing I’m doing is building the OL around him or whatever other QB they can get from the FA market.  If AR isn’t obtainable, I’m starting with Trubisky and going all in on a QB in the draft in 2023.  This is exactly what Beane did,  

[Gunner's 2022 Mock Draft (v3 and FINAL - p.17!!)]

Agree the college QB play this year was nothing spectacular but I think there are too many QB needy teams for only 1 QB to go in the first round.  Every year a team has reached on a 3-4th round QB prospect because they are desperate.  I expect the same this year 2-3 QBs minimum round 1. 

[Josh is playing in the Pebble Beach pro am next week.]

4 hours ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Just heard Jim Nantz say it on the golf broadcast today. I looked at the celebrities playing and he’s there. It’s on CBS if anyone wants to watch him. 

I actually live in Monterey, maybe I’ll try to get tickets just to see JA17.  

[Tom Brady retiring]

8 minutes ago, Process said:

Off the field I have zero respect for someone who forces their children to make out with them. 

 

On the field he is the greatest ever, without question, in any sport. 

 

NFL won't be the same without him. 

Floyd Mayweather, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and Babe Ruth might all disagree with your assessment.  

[Denver hiring Nathaniel Hackett as HC]

1 hour ago, Protocal69 said:

Does this mean Aaron Rodgers follows him to Denver?

Yes

[Frazier getting second interview with Joe Schoen and NYG]

Can we give the Giants both of the 3’s we would get from them hiring Frazier to not hire Daboll?  

[2022 Schedule is complete]

Just now, Steptide said:

Right now that's a 14-3 record. Only losses I can see (right now) would be Baltimore, rams and cheifs 

We own Baltimore.  I’m more concerned with Tenn who own us.  

[Ken Dorsey - would he choose OC here or leave to be Daboll's OC?]

8 hours ago, Greg S said:

This is like asking would you rather have sex with a 10 or a 2.

A 2 is 8 adult beverages away from being a 10!