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Melon

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  1. 22 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    Give me a number. 

     

     

    Impossible to prove but it's systemic

     

    20 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

    They have no idea. It’s just what they’ve been told. 

     

    been told Experienced 

  2. 1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

    you are 100 percent wrong in making the claim that i said racism doesn't exist.  You are literally making ***** up now.  What is your problem?  

     

    Whine some more, please.

     

    I never made that claim. I claimed that you said publicly advocating for equality while laughing about it in private did not exist. You actually called it "a fantasy land." 

     

    So publily they're supporting policy that helps minorites but at home they're racist.  So in the end minorities are treated equally but some ass is sitting at home pouting about it but doesn't actually hurt minorities?  That's quite an argument.  Not exactly sure what to do with that.  It's like a fantasy land for someone who is desperate for racism to exist.

     

     

    You actually said "pubily" - so I guess you win.

  3. 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    No I was not defending their right to do that.  Good lord.  I called them ####### for doing that and hoped their ***** ideas died with them.  You are the problem man.  You can't have a discussion with someone about this without resorting to attacking them.   You know damn well that's not what I meant and you had to go and selectively edit my post to attack me.  Thats uncalled for. 

     

     

     

    You literally laughed at the idea of two racists making racist remarks. This is a great example of what you claimed did not exist earlier - publicly advocating for equality while laughing about it in private.

  4. 6 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

    Lol you are one heck of a troll man. what did i say right after that sentence that you cut and pasted?  Something about they will die and so will their racist ideas. ALso, I called those guys #######s in the post which was blocked out.  So in fact I was talking ***** about racists sitting at home.  

     

    You were defending their right to talk crap about minorities in private - even added an LOL like it's no big deal. Does it hit too close to home?

     

    Some of those same folks are cops, doctors, paramedics, etc. To think they automatically stop their implicit bias on the job is laughable. 

     

    That's the dark underbelly of racism that makes this country racist. 

     

    6 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

    This is classic.  You have moved on from the discussion and have resorted to personal attacks.  Real nice. 

     

    You started the personal attacks then defended racism. That's on you.

     

    1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

     You're not much of a thinker are you? 

     

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  5. 16 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    Lol, so you have some guys talking ***** about minorities at home but aren't actively oppressing them right?

     

     

    2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    I already mentioned it.I was a year off. 

     

    You said hate crimes went down last year. They went up. 

  6. Just now, aristocrat said:

     

    But like I said.  7300 incidents in a country of 400 million is an extremely low percentage of incidents.  Hard to make the claim we're racist when it happens so rarely.

     

    Zero thoughts on the chart I provided or FBI Director Chris Wray's testimony that challenges this claim?

     

    You're pretty good at defending racism.

  7. 1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

    you are proving my point and ignoring facts.  

     

    You are literally making up facts about hate crime statistics and have yet to note you were incorrect that they decreased last year.

     

    1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

     

    Lol, so you have some guys talking ***** about minorities at home but aren't actively oppressing them right? 

     

    You can't be the same Aristocrat that got banned from Sabresfans for being a racist, are you?

  8. 1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

    they don't come out until november. I may have been a year off on them.  But I will say...in a country of 400 million people and we have only 7300 crimes.  Hard to make an argument that the country is racist.  

     

    They didn't go down last year, though, even according to this graph. 

     

    Most racist acts are not crimes, either. If you and your buddy are talking about Lebron and call him the n-word, that won't be included in the statistics. But my uncle who swears he isn't racist said that last week.

     

    If you're using hate crime charts to advocate for the country not being racist, you should also realize that very few agencies are actually reporting hate crimes. Wray talked about this in depth at his last hearing. Here is the most recent graph I can find.

     

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  9. 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

    There were a few years where the spiked but they went back down again last year.  

     

    The FBI has yet to release their hate crime statistics for 2020 according to... the FBI. So where are you getting this claim from?

  10. Just now, aristocrat said:

    If we were such a racist country those numbers would be rising. 

     

    They are according to the FBI

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    Can you provide the numbers from 2020? I can't find them on the FBI website, but you claim they went down last year.

  11. 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    So publily they're supporting policy that helps minorites but at home they're racist.  So in the end minorities are treated equally but some ass is sitting at home pouting about it but doesn't actually hurt minorities?

     

    This is an oversimplification. Every racist is not sitting at home pouting about it. Racists have been actively involved in anti-American and anti-black groups such as the KKK, Proud Boys, etc. They signed bills supporting equal rights, then put on their hoods and lynched at night.

     

    How can minorities (please spell it correctly if you're going to present an argument about them) be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them? 

     

     

  12. Just now, aristocrat said:

     

    sure, but that doesn't mean we're racist as a country. If you're actively making efforts to make everyone have equal opportunities you're not racist. 

     

    You don't think one can publicly support a policy but in private be a racist?

     

    I'd disagree with that.

  13. 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    I'll add. It is difficult when you have Biden passing the Crime and Drug Bills in the late 80's and early 90's which had such a terrible effect on minority communities by putting them in prison at an overwhelmingly higher rate than white people.  We still feel the effects of his awful policy to this day. 

     

     

    Pretty good argument for this being a racist country

     

  14. 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    Has America been a racist country? Yes.   But the world was racist.  America was built with the idea to end it.  We went from slavery to having only under 10k hate crimes last year.  

     

    So we became not racist last year? Confused at what the "difference" you're referring to is.

  15. 14 minutes ago, T master said:

     

    No there are those that were born into big money that now because of their own decisions live beneath a bridge . T.O. made $80+ million and at one point and was said to be broke at one point because of his own bad decisions .

     

    Great example of someone who wasn't born into big money. 

  16. 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    Racism does exist.  But we aren't a racist country. There is a difference.  

     

    What is the tipping point that turns a country racist? Or is your argument that a country cannot by itself be racist?

     

    I'd be interesting in hearing what the difference is.

  17. 8 minutes ago, T master said:

     

     

    There's a time when you need to get off the tit and stand on you r own 2 feet and go out 7 EARN or make you down way in life instead of being sheeple and having someone take you by the hand & lead you around or tell you how your suppose to do things .

     


    Unless you are born into a buttload of wealth - then you deserve it all, right?

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