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5 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:
Browns are 7-4, and to get to 11-6 would require 4-2 against this schedule - LAR, Jax, Chicago, Houston, NYJ, Cincy - Possible but... they don't have a QB so its hard to say.
Steelers are 7-4 and to get to 11-6 would rerquire 4-2 against this schedule - zona, NE, Indy, Cincy, Seattle, Baltimore (might be resting starters but i doubt they let KC get home field if buffalo gives KC a 4th loss).
Indianapolis is 6-5 and would need to go 5-1 to get to 11-6 against this schedule - Tenn, Cincy, Pitt, atlanta, Vegas, Houston
Houston is 6-5 and would need to 5-1 to get to 11-6 against this schedule - Denver, NYJ, Tenn, Cleveland, Tenn, Indy
Denver is 6-5 and would need to go 5-1 to get to 11-6 against this schedule - Houston, LAC, Detroit, NE, LAC, LV
As bad as every like bad team is - theres no way all 5 of them don't drop a game to Chicago, Tennessee, LA chargers, Jets or NE, etc. These are all flawed teams as much as buffalo, and in many cases much more than buffalo. It'd take an epic stroke of bad luck to win out and miss the playoffs - but i think they can win 4 and still miss.
I'll say this - i don't think any of those 5 teams wins 11 games, and i doubt buffalo does either.
Every year is different but Miami got in @ 9-8 last year with a conference record of 7-5. 10-7 might get it done.
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Just now, ProcessImproverMan said:
Yet another reason why we have very poor coaching and why McDermott needs to return to his family as an unemployed father come Monday. Dude's a failure.
I'm gonna reserve judgement on McD until I look at the tape.
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1 minute ago, Chaos said:
Playoffs are out of reach, barring winning five in a row.
10-7 might make it but we aren't getting there.
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Just now, Roundybout said:
Its Allen’s fault though34 > anything less than 34
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1 minute ago, Bob Jones said:
When I was growing up in the south towns, my Dad used to always tell me that the Bills were “born losers.” Sadly, his prognostication has been correct for 50+ years now.
I really do think the refs affected this game though. Bills could have, and should have, been up by 3 TDs at halftime.
No one is a born loser - it's ingrained with year after year of failure.
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1 minute ago, Low Positive said:
I don’t know why you people that aren’t from WNY put up with this stuff. You could all be Chiefs fans and no one would be the wiser. I was born to this crap.
Even when you leave WNY, the crap follows you.
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7 minutes ago, mannc said:
Has it been confirmed that Davis ran the wrong route? Certainly looked like it from his baffled expression on the bench afterwards.
He'll have to fess up as Josh will never throw him under the bus.
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2 minutes ago, IronyAbounds said:
One of Josh's weakness is that he really doesn't read defenses all that well. It gets overlooked by his athletic play, but good DCs know it and it's a repeated problem.
You wouldn't be saying that if Gabe had caught the TD pass in OT.
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Just now, DD4Bills said:
We are stuck in an abusive relationship. I’ve loved the Bills for almost 50 years…when the f—k are they gonna start loving me back??
Same with the Sabres - never ending
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You forgot Hyde getting beat in the end zone, 150 penalties (most due to a lack of discipline), defensive scheme in 2nd half when we were all over Hurts in the 1st and the list goes on.
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2 minutes ago, Rich Stadium Original said:
Last 5 PHL drives: TD TD punt FG TD...this team does not know how to close out a game....
and the Bills have now lost 4 of their 6 losses on essentially the last play of the game.
Lack of intensity for 60 minutes is on the coaches period.
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Pretty disheartening to consider that Gardner Minshew & Kenny Pickett might be in the playoffs and Josh not.
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Just now, LABILLBACKER said:
I'm 64 years old. Worst officiated game I've seen in my lifetime.
It's obvious the Eagle fix is on.
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1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
The rodgers nepotism seemed to really cost the jets after watching this game. Hackett is in over his head and Tim Boyle weaseled his way onto the roster? Lazard was a healthy scratch? What is going on over there lol
seems like Aaron is apologizing for the wrong things
Don't forget about Randall Cobb.
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20 minutes ago, nucci said:
I used to walk barefoot to school in the snow.....
I have showered in Lake Erie on numerous occasions.
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1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:
Just saw that he got demoted to 3rd string. For the life of me I don't understand why they stuck with him for so long and what flipped the switch - would love to know who was actually behind both decisions. My guess is it wasn't Saleh.
Joe Douglas bending Woody's ear no doubt and Woody telling Saleh to play him until it was obvious.
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57 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Deion couldn't tackle either but Sauce ain't no Prime.
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4 minutes ago, NewEra said:
He would suck but he engineered Gw drives against us in 2 of the last 3 games. Yesterday was his worst game I can remember by far. No shock that it was behind an OL of depth players. Dude never had a chance all day
True - he has occasional flashes of brilliance but not enough to warrant continuing as a starter. Will be interesting to see what the Jets do with him if Rodgers
plays next year.
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26 minutes ago, NewEra said:
For sure.
to be fair to the jets QB, their OL IS ravaged by injuries is such a terrible way. Tippman is really the only starter worthy player on their OL rn.
No need to be fair - Wilson would suck if he had a decent offensive line.
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Hey Sauce ...
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20 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I dont know. To me it almost looks like he simply wasnt smart/experienced enough to run most of Dabol's playbook, so he trimmed it down to what he did know and understand, and could kind of teach, and that left us with the "pop warner" scheme and play calling we've seen this year. Not sure he was trying to prove anything as much as he was just trying to keep his head above water.
I doubt he trimmed it down as McD & Josh for sure would've noticed. More likely to me is he doesn't use most of Daboll's playbook as either he doesn't understand when to use it or doesn't feel it stacks up against the defense of the week.
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10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I dont think it's an "attack" on Josh. It isnt unfair or unreasonable to say he needs to play better. I believe he said as much himself today. But he isnt the main problem. And even so, you can't fire Josh.
That said, while Warner is making his "defense" of Dorsey, he is also saying things the entire time like "Now, I dont like this play here", "It's tough to run this play against this defense", "Not a good concept, I agree", "Not great options on this play", so... yeah.
Yes, they are largely the same plays we ran against Miami, Washington, Vegas, Tampa, etc. That's the problem. Everyone knows what is coming now. Almost every clip Warner showed was extremely well covered. Because they knew exactly what was coming. Just like I did in my previous post.
Maybe attack was the wrong word ...
In defense of Josh, Orlovsky tweeted today that only 3 of his 11 picks were his fault. I didn't see if the 3 were identified.
If everyone knows what's coming now, either the playbook is not deep enough or Dorsey was calling routine repetitive plays that are easily read and defended. If the latter is the case, why not just go to Dorsey and tell him to mix it up so everything is not telegraphed. Obviously there are more factors than that, i.e. quality of defense, injuries, etc but the simple answer is to mix it up. If Josh is now throwing into tight windows, why are those windows so tight ? Surely this could've been discovered on film study a few weeks ago.
ETA - Dorsey would have had Daboll's playbook to work with starting last year so I find it hard to believe he scrapped it and started over.
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3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I'm 7min into a video called "In Defense of Dorsey" and so far all I've seen is a poorly organized unit trying to run poorly designed plays.
Yes, Josh needs to play much better. But he's been getting no help.
That's the one - what I took away was Warner saying a few times he wasn't attacking Josh in favor of Dorsey ... but at multiple times, Warner calls Josh impatient or late and demonstrates how the plays are supposed to work. So it really was an attack on Josh IMO.
I don't know enough about play design to call them a "poorly organized unit running poorly organized plays".
But aren't these the same plays we ran against Miami, Washington & Las Vegas ?
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3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I dont fancy myself an Xs and Os guy. Especially on Offense. And especially with modern NFL Offenses.
That said, over the past couple weeks I've watched:
1. the JT O'Sullivan breakdown of the Tampa game
2. the Cover1 breakdown of the Tampa game
3. a couple other Cover1 videos from this season
Maybe 2-3 hours worth of watching unofficial videos of guys who are knowledgeable but still mostly guessing on what is happening on the field.
From that alone, this past Monday Night, I was able to tell my wife exactly what play the Bills were running and exactly what routes the WRs would be running a number of times.
And I dont know JACK SQUAT!Every DC has us figured out. Every defensive player should have us figured out.
That alone is grounds for firing Ken Dorsey.
Did you watch Warner's Studyball breakdown ?
Per Benjamin Allbright, McDermott's "seat is warm"
in The Stadium Wall
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Funny since they don't have one