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  1. 1 hour ago, Gene1973 said:

    I didn't want OBJ, but both McKenzie and Davis are proving to be too inconsistent...

     

    Dont we actually want Gabe to be slightly inconsistent for now? If he's not ,then we certainly will not be able to afford  him later on.

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  2. 58 minutes ago, harryS said:

     

    That's often true but for the books like Circa and Fanduel that hire a lot of analytics talent, they will often have opinions and back them.  Afterall, it's fairly easy to collect customer data (especially for the online books), and if you show that almost all your sharps are backing one side and the public is on the other side ("Pros vs Joes" scenario), why not bet with the sharps?

     

    why would a shareholder allow employees of their company to start sportsbetting instead of just making massive rake steadily.

     

    This also opens up a security of funds risk for all the customers as the book could potentially go broke and not be able to payout their customers. yikes. probably doesn't happen intentionally very much. unintentionally if a big bet/bets comes in fast on one side, sure.

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  3. 6 hours ago, Big Turk said:

     

    I agree that's the case, but there has to be SOME semblance of who they think will win because if they are giving a team -8.5 points it's a pretty clear indication they feel that's a stronger team that people are going to be willing to bet on even if they are giving up that number of points...

     

    But the house is not trying to bet on either team they are doing this strictly to get even bets on both sides. that's what the other poster was saying.

  4. Just now, Taro Nimbus said:

    My god!   Looking back at that draft thread, you all were so depressed over the Allen pick.   Now we all pray to the altar of Allen.

     

    I got to say i think it was the Local Radio personalities that formed a hive mentality together and persuaded you all in B-lo that it was the wrong pick, leading up to the draft.

     

    I wasn't listening to them much and thought nothing of it and was excited based on his highlight reel and Mel Kiper having him #1 overall at one point on his big board

     

    It wasn't really a National opinion that the pick was all that bad at 7

  5. 3 hours ago, beebe said:

     

    I mean, you can keep saying that sort of stuff. But it's not reflective of reality: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/nfl-odds-how-much-home-field-advantage-worth-spread

     

    here's one the other way

    https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-home-advantage-awol-oddsmakers-050154472.html

     

    recent data shows that there "shouldnt be" a big home field advantage but the lines are still set as such and the bettors still bet accordingly.

     

    I actually set lines on my own with extreme accuracy. Many of these bookmakers in your articles simply copy them. They are not setting them on their own. Again you have to talk to the three people that set the lines on the first offshore site that sets them.

  6. 5 hours ago, beebe said:

     

    HFA being worth 3 points is terribly outdated. Homefield is widely viewed as a 1.5-point standard these days. A few teams - such as the Seahawks, Chiefs and likely the current version of the Bills stadium - are worth perhaps 2 points. Maybe 2.5 points in rare occasions. But I don't think any of them are worth more than that. Some are likely only worth 1 point (think LA Chargers or Vegas Raiders, who are essentially playing in neutral stadiums.) 

     

    The use of instant replay and having so many on-field cameras has helped reduce referee bias and clean up mistakes.

     

    Teams are smarter than ever before in terms of making travel accommodations. Road trips just aren't that bad anymore.

     

    In the StubHub era, roughly half the league's teams don't have significant home-field advantages and many of them have home-field disadvantages in terms of the crowd when the road team is a traveling fan base (ie Buffalo, Kansas City, Dallas, Pittsburgh, etc.) 

     

    Offensive teams communicate more efficiently than the old days. Watch old videos from the 90s and notice how often teams break the huddle with 10 secs left on the play clock and then are racing to get the snap off as the home crowd roars. Nowadays, teams break the huddle faster and are not pressed against the clock like they used to be (aside from Nathaniel Hackett's Broncos.) I don't have data beyond 2009, but that year there was 21.41 false starts per team, compared to just 18.09 false starts per team in 2019. 

     

    Add it all together: You have easier, more accommodating travel for players; you have fairer refs whose biases get cleaned up by replay; you have home fields that are in many cases being overran by visiting fans; and you have road teams who are more adept at communicating in the environments that are truly hostile. 

     

    There only a few people that actually set the lines and its the very first offshore site and everyone else follows closely so unless you hear from those few people...

     

    I do guess them and have extreme accuracy

     

    Its 3 points still

     

    there are "home town calls" thats a massive thing

    they know what cleats to wear and know the field surface inaccuracies

    the opposing fans can get to them

    chance of having a bad night sleep is more likely

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