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  1. 1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

    I was going to ask.. what distinguishes him from barkevious. I assume he has a better football IQ but all I hear is athleticism

    Other than they don't play the same position and Edmunds is bigger, stronger and faster?

     

    Mingo was a hand on the ground defensive end not a sideline to sideline LB.   I don't understand how you would even relate the two.

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  2. 1. Disagree. Both are very important and a deep threat can immeasurably help the short passing game. That said, I absolutely agree with the Sammy move. Zay Jones has speed and can fill that role.

     

    2. The OL and QB have to both do their jobs. The OL has to give the QB time and the QB has to get the ball out.

    Zay I'd not a speed receiver at all he is a possession receiver. He is not a deep threat and can't get separation. Here is what his NFL.com draft profile says:

     

    Play speed is very average. Lacks vertical push to force cornerbacks to open and run early and doesn't have second gear to separate from coverage down the field. Thin frame. Struggles to find clean releases against press coverage due to play strength and foot quickness. High-volume production helped by high percentage of short throws and wide receiver screens. Sticky out of breaks and unable to shake tight coverage. Limited amount of burst and wiggle after the catch and won't create much more than is there. Not overly-committed as a run blocker.

  3. Good question. If I remember correctly, wasn't her NFL rookie of the month in Sept of his first year and was being called one of the steals of the draft. By seaso nend, was doing OK, no longer great. But that often happens with rookies when the hit "the rookie wall" I'd imagine for O-lineman it's an even bigger wall as lineman don't sub out very much so can see where he'd be even more tired than say a rookie Nickle back who's only playing 25% of the snaps.

     

    His second season he was out by early November with the illness. I don't know alot about Crohn's, but pretty certain it's not something that pops up overnight, so wouldn't be surprised to hear that it was already effecting him back in training camp and it took to November before it got so bad that he couldn't even play. So I chalk the 2nd season up to that.

     

    Over the past year have seen many people including in this thread argue that pot is a good treatment for Crohn's and others counter with it doesn't matter he knows it's illegal. Considering the situation he was in with dealing with the illness, I'm pretty certain his biggest concern was getting healthy and doing whatever he could to help with that and had little thought or worries abut the NFL rules. So were his failed drug tests from smoking during his extended illness, Did he maybe find it too easy to keep smoking,maybe? I can forgive him for that considering the situation.

     

    Last year, sounded like he still didn't have all of his weight and strength back at the beginning of the season anyway, plus had a 4 game suspension to begin with. A number here said the initial suspension was good in away as would give him time to get back to strength. Then along came the 2nd suspension, but would like to know the timing of the test? Was he smoking because he was still in pain?

     

    Bottom line IMO was the guy was pretty darn good as a rookie, if the illness is behind him and the pot was truly do to the illness, I'd keep him around and could see him becoming good if he can stay clean.

     

    I don't get why so many still invent this delusion that he was good.

     

    He was ranked 82nd out of 84 tackles in the NFL his rookie year and the worst RT in the league. He was also 4th worst rated out of all offensive linemen in the league that year. He was never rookie of the month, week or anything else despite you saying he was.

     

    But because he played every game on a bad team with a terrible 30th ranked OL to Bills fans he is some how great.

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    Yeah......IMO he very well MAY get only 4-5 sacks but he was drafted as a pass rusher.

     

    PASS RUSHER.

     

    Shaq is not the tall, long, king sized edge setting Richard Seymour type.......he'd probably be best served playing at a quicker 255-260 pounds so he ain't going to be standing up many 330 pound RT in the run game.

     

    That said.......this will be a one gap front with ends lined up wide so "setting the edge" is not high on the job description.

     

    I see we have some Chris Kelsay fans in this thread though. Remember when Kelsay was a "first round talent" that the Bills got in the second round and how he was a considered a run defense-first DE by his fans because he couldn't sack QB's? Even though he was undersized and awful against the run? :lol:

    You obviously didn't pay much attention to the predraft stuff. And if he was drafted as one it was another abysmal failure by Whaley.

     

    Lawson was never considered a pass rush specialist or that he would be one in the NFL. He was considered a base DE who could set and edge and be strong against the run. Go watch Mayock's comments when we drafted him. Read his NFL.com profile:

     

    Thickly bound with very average flexibility. Average athlete for an end position. Not a natural hip bender and will have to focus on keeping pad level lower to unlock his leverage potential. Shows obvious signs of fatigue as game wears on. At times, is too content to lean on blocks when play isnt run to his side rather than working to discard. Will have snaps where he seems more concerned with imposing his will on blocking rather than diagnosing the play. Doesnt have the bend or upper body flexion to be edge turner as pass rusher. Effort sacks will diminish in pros and will need to become more nuanced pass rusher.

     

    Sources Tell Us

    "I see Shaq as an outside linebacker in a 3-4. He's not the guy you want to turn loose against the quarterback, but he is the guy that will make it hard for tight ends to block him in the run game. We knew we couldn't run at him and it changed how we called plays." -- ACC offensive coach

     

    NFL Comparison

     

    Courtney Upshaw

     

    Bottom Line

     

    Productive backup for two years before putting together an All­-American season in his first year as a full- time starter. Lawson is built like a full­-grown man and combines his instincts, toughness and power to fill up a stat sheet and set an early tone. Lawson's frame and game are easily translatable to the NFL, but his average athleticism and pass rush skills will likely have teams viewing him as a 3­-4 edge setter or a 4-­3 base end. Lawson may also have value as 3­-4 defensive tackle in an upfield scheme.

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    You mean in 2014, when he had 10 sacks as a tackle? When they were the 4th ranked defense. The year he earned an enormous contract extension. No that failed BS conditioning test meant nothing to me or my eyes.

     

    Anymore questions?

    What year it happened means nothing. You said there is "no tangible evidence that he doesn't work hard at football none". The fact that he showed up out of shape and failed the test is proof.

     

    But the Kool-Aid will never allow you to see or admit that. And in the usual Bills apologist fashion you blame the "BS" test instead of the player who is clearly at fault.

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    I'm going to try one more time to get a very simple point through your negative thinking.

     

    We've all said his off field actions have not been good.

     

    You questioned his effort - which we all understand you're trying to create a parallel between off field decisions and his dedication to football. It's not there.

     

    He's a dominant football player on the field. We then draw a conclusion that he must be dedicated to being a good football player in terms of putting in the work.

     

    You think he's an out of shape loser (whom you don't want to get rid of) and because football is so easy for him is just good at less than ideal effort. A theory of which you have absolutely no proof other than referring to his off field personal decisions. There's no tangible evidence that he doesn't work hard at football, none.

     

    For example: Let's just say he was out drag racing and then he was late for a meeting. Then he dominates in the next game.

     

    My take - I think he's a heck of a football player, with tons of talent, works hard at it and loves to play. He's an idiot because he makes such stupid decisions. I just wish he would get his life in order so I can just enjoy his game and he could live a long prosperous life.

     

    Your take - He played well because it's easy - he said so himself. There's no way he could be working hard on his game if he's making all these bad decisions. He's not a leader and is immature but I've never wanted him off the team - I just hope we can get one more percent of effort from him.

    So showing up out of shape and failing a conditioning test isn't proof in your eyes?

     

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000366229/article/marcell-dareus-failed-conditioning-test-in-buffalo

  7. Like I said I dont want to dismiss it......but I wonder if these formula's incorporate the fact that the defense is about to make a scheme change back to when it was 5th best in the league.

     

    I totally understand the veteran losses being incorporated into the formula

    Small detail you forgot is that 7 defensive starters from the top 5 D we had are no longer here.

     

    So why would you think switching to a 4-3 again would magically make our D top 5 again?

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    I think realizing that can be put in perspective by pointing out that age just doesn't mean much in terms of productivity. What means much more is receiving yards and seasons on the roster and how those two go together. Have only 3 players had as many receiving yards as Sammy after three years in the NFL?

     

    Beckham, picked later in the same draft, has averaged around 500 yards per year more in those same three years.

     

    I can name six receivers who've gotten more yards in their first three years ... wait for it ... from the same draft.

     

    Beckham, Matthews, Evans, Cooks, Robinson and Landry. And John Brown isn't far behind.

     

    It was an awful trade, particularly in a draft that even at the time was seen as one of the best WR drafts of all time.

     

    An awful trade. But yeah, he isn't a bust yet. Yeah, the result of an awful trade, but not yet a bust. And it's not like the Bills can't keep him if he does well this year, by force if necessary with the tag.

    Exactly Thurman I pointed this out to him one page before this post of yours. He says he got it from someone else's post but he didn't bother to check to see if it was true. Which of course it was blatantly false.

     

    I pointed out those same 5 WR's from Sammy's own class that have more yards before 24 too they are just salt in the wound.

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