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  1. The problem is that the whole community is brainwashed to distrust outsiders and that sex at pubecent ages to men in their 50's and 60's is ok. In fact it will anger God if they don't submit to the leaders directives.

     

     

     

     

    A fake phone call is legal reason to go in if they truly believe it came from someone inside the compound. I saw a lawyer discussing this case and he said it was not a problem for them to go in and look for the girl Sarah. It's also common sense. If the police receive a call saying that a woman is being held in the basement of a specific house and the police go and find a man being held in that house can the guy who was holding the man get out of it by saying the original phone call was wrong? If the police had no solid evidence to enter the compound then they'd be in trouble but having a realistic sounding phone call is good enough reason to enter. If they had taken this call and done nothing about it what would have happened if the media found out? Would the police be liable for ignoring the situation? Especially, if it was a real phone call.

     

     

     

    I'm not saying that what the government ended up doing in WACO was right but what should they have done? A UPS driver drops a box headed to the Koresh compound and out spill a bunch of unfilled hand grenade casings? The compound had enough food to last at least six months maybe more. What do you think they should have done?

     

    There weren't 31 underage pregnant girls but there were underage pregnant girls. The ritual bed they found wasn't used for marriage consumations, supposedly, but we do know from several defectors from the ranch that child abuse and sexual abuse is common there. They had every right to enter there and every right to take those children under suspicion of abuse, IMO.

     

    Did you read the article about Warren Jeffs?

     

    When the DNA tests come back and they find evidence of inbreeding what do you think they should do then?

     

     

     

     

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    Underage pregnant girls? There were two, of the 52, and one of those turned out to be 18. I wonder how that compares with any federally subsidized housing project, trailer park, or average high school, anywhere in America. It's already obvious CPS has not been honest with the public about any of this. Now, what were they supposed to do? Not support a religious vendetta. Not kidnap 468 children, and farm them out all over the state, not even keeping the children from the same families together. This was a well planned attack. It was not about a phone call, or an imaginary 16-year-old. Stand up for the constitution, and don't make excuses about the thugary CPS thought they could get away with.

     

    Waco? I'm certain I know way more than you'll ever know.

  2. This was, and still is, Big Brother at its worst. Violation of first, third, and fourth amendment rights, all justified because of a fake phone call from a 32-year-old woman in Colorado, pretending to be a 16-year-old girl trapped in a forced marraige, to a man, as it turns out, who had not set foot in Texas in over 20 years. I sure hope heads roll on this. Amazingly, a child protective services official, Marleigh Meisner, who oversaw these kidnappings, was also involved in the disastrous rush to judgment at David Koresh's Waco compound in 1993. And the statements by the officials in charge of this. When CPS starts issuing press releases, instead of talking to the lawyers, that should raise a red flag to even a blind man. Turns out, there was no ritual sex bed, there were not 31 underage pregnant girls. All lies, to us through the media, and disgarceful idiots like Nancy Grace. Now, I'm not banging the media on this, because we would not know what we do now, if there were not some reporters diligent enough to bring these facts out. I'm ashamed of the State of Texas. But at the same time I'm proud of these three Texas judges. This story is far from over. Bureacrats don't like to go away all that easily.

     

    You know, this country rounded up American citizens of Japanese desent, after Pearl Harbor, because of fear. And we know now, that was wrong. I think this too, was also particially about fear. Fear of people who are different, people who are secretive, people who, you know, aren't from around these parts.

     

     

    A famous quote:

     

     

    "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." - by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945

  3. http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8888028?source=rss

     

    I'll just crack open a nice cold :thumbdown: and be thankful that I don't live in California

     

    Just found out here in Texas, it now costs five dollars to walk into a topless joint. The nightclub gets none of that. The state also knows exactly who's in there because the club has to scan your state ID and somehow monitor the headcount. It's called a Sin Tax. So Texas is now in the titty bar business. That is, when they are not raiding non-mainstreem religious communities. Sleezy bureaucrats!!

  4. First concert, the "Guess Who" about 1972. Many awesome concerts to remember. All time favorite that comes to mind was "Sprinsteen" in Rochester about 1979. Had just got off work as a lifeguard at the downtown Holiday Inn and didn't have the money to get in. So hung around outside to see if I could hear any of it. A security guard let me in, probablty because he figured it was about to be over. The Boss played for another two hours.

  5. I'd probably still have to root for them anyway. Will always be a Bills fan. Maybe we should ask Baltimore fans what they did. Or maybe ask Houston fans how they feel. My Ex brother in law was in Peru for a year. It was the year a lot of that moving happened. The Rams moving to St Louis, the Browns to Baltimore and all. It was before internet was everywhere, so he really had been out of touch. About blew his mind. That's when I told him the Beatles had a new album. :censored:

  6. Oh yeah! And so true. Spent a lot of time there myself. A great bar if you ever get to the Dallas area is Dukes in Addison.

     

     

    I've been to too many dive bars to count, but only one had Pole Position next to Ms. PacMan and restrooms so nasty you were surprised to find yourself groping some drunk chick in them because the place was too packed to go anywhere else.

     

    But you went there all time.

     

    Thirsty's in Pittsford. Good times.

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  7. I still sometimes lurk here. Just contemplating some things. Got an e-mail today from an old high school friend about the passing of another, one of my earliest and best friends. I didn't even know he was sick. I'm told he had been living life to its fullest, even while dealing with various treatments for over a year. He was admitted to the hospital for less than a week, in the final stages of liver and pancreatic cancer. Just realized I probably hadn't communicated with Doug in five years or so. It always seemed to me like I was the one always making the most effort to stay in touch anyway. One time while I was living in Florida, he and Nancy let me know they would be in Boco Ratan. But I couldn't swing the trip from Orlando because of work probably. He was a busy attorney and part owner of the AAA baseball team in Syracuse N.Y., and I was busy with my career and raising a family in Florida or Texas. And most recently with my separation, divorce, financial challenges, and legal crap that has come with the whole mess. Doug was a lawyer. Why didn't I call him? Embarrassment probably. We did go to a Rochester Red Wings game together the last time I was up there. When we would visit, it seemed like no time had elapsed. We met as sixth graders. We'd catch frogs, ride our bikes to the sandlot to play baseball. There were no adults supervising back then. We settled our arguments the old fashioned way. I remember he had an egg route, like some kids have a paper route. And he was allegic to eggs. Always thought that was weird. One of the guys in the neighborhood had the only swimming pool around. We'd show up in our bathing suits and ask him what he wanted to do. Later basketball became our passsion. Then girls. One time he decided to park his car and make out with some chick in my driveway. Somehow she managed to lean on the horn and woke us all up. I think my folks just figured it was someone playing a prank. He later told me it scared him to death. Doug was always the good kid, you know, as far as anyone knew. We got drunk together more than once. He went to Hamilton College and then U.of B. for law school. I would go visit him. One time we went to Grossingers together for a communications seminar event during our college days. We were going from different schools, but drove together in Doug's Ford Mavrick. I think I've only realized again quite recently how important it is to have true friends. We're born alone, die alone, and it's only friends, family, and love that help us believe we are not alone. And a belief in God. Doug would have been 50 on June 28th. How in the world is it I can remember what his birthday was?

  8. Get real.  She's backed by every "name" in the George Soros/Michael Moore wing of the Democratic party.  They're paying for her PR rep! 

     

    And every major "mainstream" news outlet is covering her several hours a day.  I tried flipping through the cable news channels last night and couldn't get away from her.  The new buzz word is that she represents the "tipping point" in the Iraq War.  Both CNN and MSNBC used that term.  Why?  I don't know!  Probably because it's a good way to present a story and make a meaningless story seem meaningful.

     

    I can't imagine anyone trying to frame her as this "nobody" trying to take on the big names on the Right.  She has plenty of powerful friends and people who want to broadcast her.

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    In fact, MOVE ON dot ORG took out two full pages in the local Waco Tribune Herald with quotes from people all over the country supporting her, which would have had to take a little bit of time to assemble, or was already ready to go. This thing is just another choreographed political stunt

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