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How did you ever get "employees" with that substandard education?
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You sound like a total stupid head.
It takes one to know one. Don't worry. I'm not running for anything. It's hard enough to just keep my employees happy.
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It took me six years, at MCC, Geneseo, and St. John Fisher. I switched majors several times. To help pay my way, I often had to work 20-30 hours a week, at various jobs. I always seemed to end up back in the Deli at Star Market. In two of those years I played sports, which was time consuming and physically very demanding. It wasn't easy for me. But I was determined.
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If you have been hired to kill someone and you are the type of person who feels the need to bring your day planner with you to the job in order to remind yourself to call to collect the cash, then there is a very good chance that you have made a costly mistake in choosing murder as your vocation.
Darwin awards candidate, me thinks.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_on_...Cr7uR0FTYGs0NUE
Is this senility? I guess his handlers didn't prep him with with the McCain home ownership talking points that day.
Some were his wife's investment properties. What an irrelevent question to play gotcha with?
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Another sign of the end of the world.
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What is the actual reason you can't have talks with terrorists- I don't mean giving them whatever they want to make them stop. I mean, what do we really have to lose. At worst, it doesn't work out. Maybe we get a better idea what makes them tick.
It can't be as ludicrous as the "war on shadows." After all, an ideology can't be fought with the sword.
Because it would legitimize them.
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:lolDude are you new here or just don't check in regularly? Are you really trying to have a serious debate with Crayonz? This is too funny...
A little slow on the uptake. But I get it.
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First they said the dogs were shot in the back, now the rear. Which is it? Those are two totally different things.
Your two possible reasons for this are:
the cops have a policy of killing animals or
individual cops really dig shooting dogs.
This shows a bias against the cops because there are lots of other possible reasons. Like:
they felt threatened or
they panicked or
lots of others.
This doesn't make the cops perfect but your two reasons allow only for conspiracy and evil; showing your bias against cops.
I didn't make up anything about you. The little squiggly thing at the end of my sentence is called a question mark. I am simply wondering why you hate cops.
You link to one story about the cops botching what they thought was a drug arrest and another about them overstepping what was actually a drug arrest and come to the conclusion that this is happening everywhere. Please define everywhere.
If you'd like, I can link thousands of articles about the cops arresting actual criminals and putting them behind bars. To me that is "happening everywhere", even though it isn't because there are parts of the country where nobody lives. One thing is for sure though, it is closer to being everywhere than your version.
Yay drugs.
Discussing this with you seems to be a waste of time and bandwidth. Though, and I repeat, even though this story is not about me, I do have a problem with firemen who start fires, financial advisors who steal money from the people who trust them, police who act illegally, and violently, and public officials who abuse their authority. Which one are you? Since your comments obviously a show bias in favor of such abuse of authority. Actually, I would never pretend to imagine I could figure out what's going on inside your brain. I'm going to ask you again to not put words in my mouth, or pretend to know you can read my mind. I've explained why I'm outraged, which should not lead to imagining non-existant tickets, or cop hatred. I want to know I can trust the police. I want to know that if I get mugged and need their help, that they will be there to help, and not be trying to make it into a drug deal gone bad or something. Just keep living in your little world. We'll manage without you.
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What do you not understand, that is still needing to be sorted out? And what do YOU do with a Fed-Ex delivery left on the porch at your house? Wonder why everything is perfectly clear at this point, to everyone else. Somehow you don't want to understand, or just like looking foolish. The vet that examined the dead dogs said BOTH animals had rear entry wounds. They shot the dogs because it was either policy to do so, or because they just like shooting fleeing animals. And I don't see how trying to make these stories somehow about me helps your argument. It is about all of us though, the fourth ammendment, and perhaps about a failed policy of a war on drugs. And it seems to be a frightening trend, happening everywhere. Don't kill the messenger because you don't like the message. Freedom loving citizens must have the balls to stand up to this. Some of us will.Newsweek
The Mayor did not appear to do anything wrong during the incident itself. Nothing at all. Again, I am objetive so I can see that. He did trigger it by bringing 32 POUNDS of pot into his house but it is unclear whether he is a drug dealer. Give it time to sort itself out on that one.Where the Mayor clearly lied is when he said the cops shot his dog in the back while the dog was running away. IMPOSSIBLE. Why would he just lie like that if he was 100% innocent?
Again, I never said that cops are all perfect. You seem to say that they are all villians and the poor guy who got the crap beat out of him was just walking down the street. They may have gotten out of control and they have paid with their jobs. That means the system is working either perfectly or in favor a criminals. That is good. I know I don't want to live in a country where I can't go rob some Oxycondone without fear of getting beat up.
Your premise is flawed. Do you think we just shouldn't have cops at all?
Are you mad that you got pulled over for speeding one time or something?
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Everywhere we turn the cops are running wild. You haven't posted one story about where the cops got it right, but you don't have an ax to grind?
And you left that out.
Dude, the Mayor lied as part of the investigation. Again I will say that maybe the cops were not 100% right, but can you admit that the Mayor handled it badly too? Plus, what is the deal about having his civil rights violated? The dude looks white to me.
You keep saying that the mayor lied. Explain. There has been nothing in the news anywhere about him lying about anything. How do I admit the mayor handled it badly? Tied up in his underwear in his own house by masked men not even dressed as police, who had just kicked in his door and assasinated his dogs? Explain what he did badly. Explain your facts. The cops didn't believe he was mayor. But he was.
And those Florida cops. I guess I also forget to mention that two were fired and a third one resigned, following that incident. Gee, I guess even the police chief figured they were not 100 percent right on that one. Police are not supposed to be judge jury and executioner.
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Dude, if you're going to call me out, at least get your facts straight. I have been the voice of reason saying let all of the facts come out. You are the one saying all cops are criminals and all criminals like this guy are innocent.
The facts are not all out but don't you find it odd that the mayor has already been caught in a blatant lie?
The facts were out before the first post on this thread. The mayor, his wife and mother-in-law were cleared of any wrong doing over a week ago. Your statements show no regard for anything factual, including the BS that I made some blanket statement about all cops. I do not like anyone attrributing false words to me.
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Speaking of cops - did you see the Iron Pig who shot the Hell's Angel in Sturgis last week? Hoo boy. The circumstances are unclear but it really doesn't matter because once you hurt a Hell's Angel, it's war. Yikes.
The more I think about it, the Prince George raid/ fiasco is a good thing. Because it happened to a public official, it should bring light to something that, if it happens to you or me or any other average Joe, it gets covered up. Because there are crayon eating people in this country that don't know people in this country are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, and they don't care about anything that transends themselves. The Sturgis shooting? Looks like a big coverup already. But it's happenning more and more. Link Increasing arrogance from the police, and little accountability. I've actually got a couple of friendly aquaintences in a club called the Iron Pigs in Texas. They are very cool guys. One is actually not a cop, but an EMT.
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I fixed it for you.
Also, I love how you cleverly omitted the blatant lie about shooting the dog in the back while it was running away despite it being against the laws of physics.
I agree that sometimes law enforcement gets out of control but so does the drug dealer loving press. You have to wait until the end to see who is right sometimes.
Wow, 2115 posts on TBD. That's a lot of trolling. Freedom of speech is a good thing, no matter how inane and foolish. (sound of someone hitting permanent ignore button).
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Yup.
Like some dude is going to smoke 32 pounds of pot and not sell any.
And the crap about shooting the dog in the back has to be a lie. When a person runs away they can be shot in the back. A dog's back is parallel to the ground when he runs so it is almost impossible to shoot him in the back.
Do they still put lead in crayons? You didn't read it, or you didn't comprehend it. The mayor guy is not in jail, or charged with anything. But he is all over the national news. And the FBI is now investigating to see if their civil rights were violated.
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Maybe the dogs shouldn't hang around with drug dealers.
Did you read the article Einstein?
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Speaking as someone in a family with quite a few police/LE.... sad to say I agree.
You grant a lot of leeway for actions that come out of the heat of the moment encounters/real jeopardy for personal safety. But more and more, as power has gone a little more unquestioned and employment standards have dropped, we see the kind of results. Cops firing tasers it seems more to try out their new toys than as a next-to-last means (have heard several of those relatives, including my brother who's a cop in a fairly large city in this state, say, 'You just wouldn't believe how many sh--heads carry a badge, many through nepotism.'), several in this region recently who have chased motorcycles (when many depts' policy is no-chase, for good reason) and wound up killing innocents in wrecks, the beatings that you can recall from videos (not nearly always the full story, but the breadth of the beatings goes overboard), pumping suspects with 100 bullets. This is yet another example... quite similar to what happened in Ruby Ridge with the ATF. And the officers who conducted this raid were 100% unapologetic. Shot a dog in the back as it was running away! (If it were my dog, it would take everything I had not to respond in like kind). Sorry, but the Constitution doesn't grant this kind of power that has only gotten more brazen b/c it goes largely w/o consequences other than big municipal payouts b/c it's attributed to the chain of command or something similar to the 'fog of war.'
True, they have a tough job with a lot of stress. Most truly care deeply about the community they serve. And don't expect it to get any easier for police as times get more and more desperate. But it's the aggregate of sh-- like this that doesn't help their cause.
My brother has seriously thought about quitting --- the daycare bill for two children is $640/week while he makes $700/week. After taxes, car, insurance, gas, etc. it actually costs money to go to work. Only way you can get slightly ahead is massive amounts of overtime, and you kill your marriage/family life that way.
Very incitefull. I know it's not all of them. I know a lot of people in, or who have been in, law enforcement. But there is that code of silence thing. And I understand conditions can harden some who may have started out very idealistically. One of the more impressive signs I once saw was in front of the Greece NY Police department. It said "Serve, Protect, and LEAD." Wow, leadership! Nice to think that the police might actually want to believe they are on the same side as most citizens. I later read that Greece was considered one of the top five police departments in the whole country. Excellent
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The article said it was 32 lbs. of maryjane. Still, an absurd reaction considering they knew nothing about the origin and should have known everything about the suspect. I'm guessing the mayor doesn't live in a neighborhood reputed for violent drug dens.
Some kind of scheme where the drugs are mailed to an unsuspecting address, and then intercepted. Maybe the bad guys knew the police were on to them. Anyway, the police shot one of the dogs in the back as it was running for cover.
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I am increasingly troubled by law enforcement in general. This is just crazy. If he's not mayor, I bet we never hear about this. In all likelyhood, these innocent people probably go to jail. This probably happens more than we know. Raid
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ELDORADO, Texas (AP) -- Polygamist leader Warren Jeffs was indicted in Texas on a count of child sexual assault, a first-degree felony. Five members of the sect also face charges.
Sounds like state officials are finally pursuing this the way that they should have in the first place. Even if it is, at this point, probably motivated by vengence and vindication, as much as by justice.
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That's been a question all along. You really think inbreeding shouldn't be a crime? It's just acting weird and should be accepted by society? You and I have very different ideas of what is legally harmful and what is not.
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If the police had ignored that and then there was a grenade attack by the Davidians there would have been media hell to pay. I have no problem with them going to check things out after something like that happens. When they discovered the other armaments they had every right to do what they initially did. I'll ask again, even though you don't like tough questions, how should they have ended it?
Now the question is how should they have ENDED it? Your above suggestion would have been a good way to possibly have prevented the situation, at the start. I'm done playing this game.
And about the DNA thing. Is it against the law to have Arkansas-like DNA amongst a population that has been much secluded for the past 70 years? I don't know. I don't think the judge ordered those tests to prove guilt of some yet to be charged offense. I thought it was more about helping to accertain which children belonged to which parents. But, you know, they went in there, with tanks and a Swat team. Sure looks like they were ready to go, first sign of anything. But what do I don't know. Yeah, this a free country. As long as you do what you're told, and don't act weird.
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Go out and get the book "Under The Banner Of Heaven" and then tell me what you think of the FLDS.
I never brought up Waco til you did. You said it was a disastrous rush to judgment in the Waco case and I'm asking you what they should have done after a load of empty grenade casings tumble out of a package being sent there. You seem loathe to answer the question because there isn't anything much better you could suggest, IMO.
Nice try at trying to change the subject by making an absurd remark. Why don't you just give your best shot at answering my questions or do you have no reasonable answers?
Because your questions are stupid. The UPS driver dropped a box he was delivering to the site. A fake grenade rolled out of the torn box. The driver thought it was real and reported it. The Davidians made most of their money legally selling firearms at gunshows. Thay had a licence to do that. Fake paperweights grenades were one of the items. So what could they have done? Nothing. That's what. Not jump to conclusions? Or arrest David Koresh quietly during one of his many outings. Or not show up in full battle gear at Denny's on the way to the compound. What idiots. They could have done a hundred things different. There's the answer to one your loaded questions. Now that said, there apparently were some real live grenades in the compound. At least that is what the government later told us. I still don't want to talk about Waco. I brought up Waco, not just because of some similarities, but because some of the same people are involved.
It's obvious you have some pre-existing opinions about the FLDS. Now, I'm no fan of the FLDS. But I believe some of their rights were violated. I believe Texas acted hastilly, and without proper cause. Three Texas judges agree with me.
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I didn't ask you what you knew about Waco. I asked you what they should have done.
Also, those were the only "pregnant" girls when they showed up. I also asked you what they should do when it's proven there is a lot of inbreeding going on when the DNA tests come back but you've ignored these questions and just continued to rant. If the DNA tests prove that 15 year old girls are mothers of small children and older women have daughters 13 or 14 years younger than them what should be done? I already pointed out, and you've ignored, that there is a lot of evidence from former members of the FLDS church and testimony from the trial of Warren Jeffs to have reasonable cause to move cautiously in this case. I don't think they've done much wrong here but obviously the Texas courts do in the cases of these kids. I see another Waco happening if these kids are returned and then the evidence shows up that they are inbred and children of children themselves and need to be removed again.
I didn't want to discuss Waco. Is that what this thread was about? They could have done a hundred things differently at Waco. But nothing can be done about any of that now. And your DNA question was loaded, full of assumptions. Where are you getting all of your supposed evidence, from Nancy Grace? I think some of the FLDS may have some things to answer for.
Meanwhile, I think the abused 16-year-old girl is busily building weapons of mass destruction in Iraq as we speak.
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