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3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:
Right, they would have something worked out pre-trade. Certainly there would be a large guarantee and a signing bonus. The whole thing would be well orchestrated in advance of the trade.
It's having the money to handle the initial transfer that makes the June 1st date with the Tre money relevant. And they may need to do it while they have the full pot of the money available.
Not sure I made my point. I was responding to your statement - "For example you need around $15M to bring in an Aiyuk or Metcalf before you can restructure."
Aiyuk's cap charge is $14+ million. Once we get the $10+ million for Tre, we will have $12ish million. We don't have to go out and find $3 million more in order to bring in Aiyuk then restructure him. They can agree to the restructure and make it go into effect as soon as the trade is made. So if they agree to a restructure/extension with Aiyuk that comes with a, say, $7 million cap charge for 2024, they can just do the deal, his new $7 million cap charge just goes against our $12+ million. If they have all that in place prior to the trade, they don't have to get up to $15 million just to bring him on then restructure.
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1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:
But after taking in a WR the FO can restructure and play games with the cap. For instance after having the funds to bring in Metcalf they could then restructure his contract to a cap hit to around $7M (see DHop 23 salary of $1.8M or Diggs cap hit in 2024 of $6M).
So in your example above, they restructure Josh, get the money to bring in Metcalf. Immediately restructure Metcalf to around $7M cap hit and the Bills have $10M+ left ($10M Tre + $6M Josh + $2M to start - $7M Metcalf).
You don't wait until the trade deadline, the number 1 seed is important. Also if you wait you might not have the funds available for the initial surge needed to bring someone in. For example you need around $15M to bring in an Aiyuk or Metcalf before you can restructure- as best as I can tell, those are the rules.
With permission, the restructure can be agreed to before the trade and made to go into effect at the same time the trade is official. It's generally what's happening when teams allow a player to "seek a trade." They're allowing the player to work out a new deal with a team before the trade is agreed to.
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How long the day?
How dark the night spent apart?
Is this the way to learn?
Go your own way
Although you may break a heart
Don't let it start
Hold on to your love. -
Never Surrender, it's easier said than done
But you go to finish what's already begun
Never, that's forever, seems like such a long time
But I only got one life to live - It's gonna be mine -
1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:
What’s silly is this situation with him is going to make me root against him and for what? I guess just because he’s a Chief.
We didn’t want him. Full stop. Maybe the Chiefs get something out of him. They were extremely likely to get him anyway. It just doesn’t matter.
I just really don’t have the desire to see highlights of him catching balls vs air all summer and hear about how great he looks.
He does not have the profile to be a #1. We did the right thing - I believe we had it down to Coleman and Legette and maybe even Mitchell.
I like our guy. I like the position we’re in now and going into 2025.
Just keep the oline strong and we’re going to be good.
Agree. I'll root against him because he's a chief. That's easy.
I see Roscoe Parrish, only smaller. And Roscoe has a highlight film. No doubt Worthy will have one too. Just like lots of other players. It will be annoying to see someone start a thread every time Worthy catches a pass for a first down.
Actually I think my biggest fear is what Andy will do with him and the new kickoff rules. I could see Roscoe having a field day with that, and I fully believe that's a big part of why Andy wanted him.
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You'd better ride on baby,
You was born outside of the law
Run Run
Doo doo doo Doo doo doo doo
Run Run Run
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Well, I used to be a folk singer
Keeping managers alive
When you saw me on a corner
And told me I was jive
So I unlocked your mind, you know
To see what I could see
If you guarantee the postage
I'll mail you back the key
Well I woke up in the morning
With an arrow through my nose
There was an Indian in the corner
Trying on my clothes -
"I got your name from a friend of a friend
Who said he used to work with you
Do you remember the all-night preacher from Stereo-92?"
I said, "Could you relate to our quarter-track tape?
You know the band performs in the nude"
He said, "Uh-uh, don't call us, we'll call you" -
33 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:
I never knew about the snap rate as accordance to comp picks until the NFL stiffed us from the 3rd Rd pk we should've gotten from losing Edmunds.
In my opinion it's a horrible way to factor the comp picks. A player can get injuries and still be great the rest of the yr or the following year. The NFL is not acting on good faith by adding these guidelines to the comp formula. Teams do base there entire off-seasons on these supposed comp picks and it's stupid in my opinion to have anything else in the formula other then what said player received in his contract. It's not the Bills fault that Edmunds didn't reach the threshold for snaps because he was hurt we still lost a big piece of our defense by not resigning him.
I agree it adds a wrinkle that there are many arguments against. But saying the NFL is not acting in good faith seems a bit of a stretch. The NFL doesn't just do it however they feel. The formula, and all its guidelines - however convoluted they may be, are clearly spelled out in the CBA. That means no matter how screwed up it seems, the NFLPA is in agreement that's how it should be.
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Yutes.
Little lone.
For all intensive purposes.
Looser is not the way to spell loser, losers.
The whole thing is rediculous.
Makes me want to throw up in my mouth. What does that even mean? Where the hell else does one throw up?
Not for nothin' it just pets my peeves.
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What kinda guy am I really who?
I don't wear pajamas and I don't sniff glue
I'm Mississippi, got the New York blues
What kinda guy am I really who? -
I read the news today, oh boy
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now we know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall
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1 hour ago, Rubes said:
Good one. And thanks for reminding me that the Bills didn’t draft Rashad, they only traded a great receiver away.Actually, they didn't trade him either. He injured his knee in the 1975 preseason and didn't play all year. He still had residual effects from the injury in 1976 so the Bills released him. Rashad then signed with the expansion Seahawks only to be traded to Minnesota right before the regular season. He worked out with QB Tarkenton who fell in love with him (figuratively not literally) but failed the physical as the doctor's said Rashad still had issues with his knee, so they intended to nullify the trade. According to the story, Tarkenton told the team if they didn't keep Rashad on the team he was going to sit out the first game. The team acquiesced and the rest is history.
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3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
So 4 pages in, I think it's safe to say... "Not many"
Our best examples have been 2nd rounders and a Supplemental Draft Pick (who had previously lit up the USFL with success).
Jerry Hughes still stands as the best example, imo.
Not many is very true. Many more instances of just being a bust as opposed to rejuvenating an expected career after changing teams. But why no consideration for my choice of Ahmad Rashad posted earlier? Is it because I didn't elaborate as I was headed for bed? Of course his total numbers don't stack up against the modern-day guys. And he's not in the hall of fame. But it was a different era. Still, doesn't he fit the category? Two teams and a missed season his first 4 years. Then another team before being traded again and eventually going to 4 consecutive Pro Bowls?
Drafted #4 overall by St Louis - 59 total receptions in 27 starts over 2 years (14 game seasons).
Traded to Buffalo in 1974 - 36 receptions in 14 starts.
Missed 1975 with a knee injury.
Signed with Seattle in 1976 - traded to Minnesota right before regular season.
Vikings Ring Of Honor
Pro Bowl in 1978, 1979, 1980 and 1981.
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Amad Rashad
Good night.
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The wheel.
Then alternating current. Very underrated.
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All the days became so long
Did you really think, I'd do you wrong?
Dixie, when I let you go
Thought you'd realize that I would know
I would showThe special love I have for you, my Baby Blue
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I love the keep it a secret part. Like, yeah let's not tell anybody. Hell we could keep it a secret from the entire league for at least. maybe, a quarter and a half of the first game. Brilliant!
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No I would not give you false hope
On this strange and mournful day
But the mother and child reunion
Is only a motion awayOh, little darlin' of mine
I just can't believe It's so
Though it seems strange to say
I never been laid so low
In such a mysterious way
And the course of a lifetime runs
Over and over again -
2 hours ago, Mango said:
So did I. After his restructure he just becomes too expensive to keep all the way through his contract. But going through the numbers it is more advantageous to move on as a post June move this year than it is a new league year next year. New league year for 2025 only saves $5M. It only jacks back up to $18M if we go post June 1 again.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/
I think there might be an error on spotrac since they did their last round of adjustments. They have Diggs as a post June cut saving $500k and trade $19M. It has been consistently $19M for a year.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211224005328/https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/stats-valuation/There is no error. On 3/17 Diggs' $18.5 million salary for 2024 became fully guaranteed. If they had cut him before March 17th with a June 1st designation, they wouldn't have to pay the salary and the cap savings would have been $19 mil. Now, after March 17th, even if they cut him after June 1st they still pay the $18.5 mil salary so it's only $500,000. But if they trade him that guaranteed $18.5 mil salary goes to the new team so it's still $19 mil.
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If I was a junkman selling you cars,
Washing your windows and shining your stars,
Thinking your mind was my own in a dreamWhat would you wonder and how would it seem?
Living in castles a bit at a time
The King started laughing and talking in rhyme. -
6 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:
Sportrac is updated and has the same numbers right now.
It includes Knox's cap hit lowered from $14.3M to $7.7M, and also (surprisingly) Douglas' cap hit lowered to $3.3M - it seems that they agreed to different restructure than reported before, now he has more dead cap in void years too.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/
It obviously doesn't include Morrow, Hollins, Jones, Samuel and Johnson. My guess is that they will combine for ~$15M minus $4M they will replace. So if everything is correct, we should have about $6M cap space right now.
However, Sportrac has something obviously wrong imo, since it shows current contracts as total of $218M but if you count them its only $215M.
Sounds about right. OTC shows $10 million and Spotrac is now at $11.1 million. Both seem to have everything now except Ty Johnson (who will be a minimal hit compared to the 51st guy he replaces) and Curtis Samuel. At 3 years $24 million Samuel's first year is probably around $4 - $5 million. So $6M-ish sounds good.
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My my, hey hey.
Rock and roll is here to stay.
It's better to burn out than to fade away.
My my, hey hey.
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Well I woke up Sunday mornin', with no way to hold my head that didn't hurt
And the beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad, so I had one more, for dessert-
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What to do with the post June $10 M that will be available
in The Stadium Wall
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Yup. Okay.