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77 pages on this kid. Cool
If he's going to be the face of this franchise for the next 10 yrs or more then this might be only the beginning! 1000 pages or bust!
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as far as the gruden qb class goes, we saw the edited 20 minutes plus commercials that espn put together. we have no idea what was said or done when the cameras were off or what got left on the cutting room floor. so i have to think that the reasons that gruden likes this kid are much more than what we were privy to.
and as far as the trade down scenerio, who wouldn't want more high picks in addition to getting the guy you want anyway. the problems with that i believe are twofold...
one, there is no guarantee that if you trade down the guy you want will be available when you do get to pick.
and two, if everyone and their brother are connecting the syracuse dots, then the thinking must be that if you want nassib you better hop up in front of the bills to get him. and the further down you go, the lower the cost of jumping up becomes.
2b. the jets are right behind us and are trying like hell to get rid of every qb on their roster, and if nassib, or any qb, is your target and you get cute and trade down and the jets get your guy...that's a kick in the marbles i don't want to take.
the question i have is which qb is best suited for the offense the bills are going to run. i have no idea if it's nassib or not, but if it is, how much of a drop is it to the next guy or the guy after that?
I think the risk (not getting Nassib but still getting Geno or Manuel) is worth the reward in this case. I just don't see Nassib being more valuable than one of those guys PLUS another guy
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We need to put a press release out saying we want Milner too. They probably haven't yet because he might go before our pick, but I know a lot of teams later in the draft need a corner so if he is still available when we pick at #8 then I want all of the teams thinking we will take him unless they compensate us with some extra picks!
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The thing is, the Bills don't know, no one knows, what other teams think of Nassib. Some very highly regarded evaluators think Nassib is #1 or #2 rated QB overall. And the number is growing lately now that these guys have had time to watch all of the tape on all of them. If a team that needs a QB, and there are a bunch of them, thinks the same thing as these particular guys like Lande, Cosell, Jaworski, Gruden, etc, Nassib could go anywhere from #5 on down.
Just because the McShays of the world think he may be a reach at #8 doesn't mean a GM in desperate need of a QB isn't willing to gamble. It happens every year. I don't even like Nassib that much but I think he's a better prospect than Christian Ponder.
There isn't that much of a difference in talent between the best overall QB and the 5th best. There is a lot of depth. I have seen rankings that have the top 5 in every possible order you can think of. Nobody can agree. If by some freak occurence Nassib isn't there at 13 if the Bills made the trade I suggested with Tampa, they will stil have Manuel, Barkley, and possibly even Geno to choose from. Nobody knows how these guys will pan out as pros but as it sits they are all pretty much equal in talent and I'd rather have either of those guys plus an extra 2nd round pick. 2 starters for the price of 1. There's no way Nassib is worth the #8 pick unless they expect him to step in and be the starter/savior day 1
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Let's get serious. The Bills are taking Nassib. It's all but a done deal imo. Please update your mock accordingly.
I like the trade with Tampa though. I had the same idea in another post. Tampa wants either Milner or Tavon Austin so they can swap 1st's with us plus give us their 2nd, or 3rd and 4th as you have suggested.
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Trade down is a huge gamble that he will still be there and trading back into the first would leave the Bills with probably only 3rd, 5th and 6th rd. Pix left in the draft. If the Bills want Nassib bad enough, why not just draft him at #8?
because they can possibly trade their #8 to tampa (so tampa can get Tavon Austin ahead of the Jets) and get tampa's #13 + their 2nd or 3rd round pick as well perhaps. so they can still get Nassib plus also get another free pick. picking him at #8 would be stupid because nobody projects him to be taken that high. even #13 would be a huge reach.
the more picks we can get in this draft the better. it has been said that there are not a lot of big name guys this year but what there is is a lot of depth at all of the positions. so a 3rd or 4th round pick might not be that much worse or even on the same level as the 1st or 2nd round guys. the more picks the better so lets trade down when possible!
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I watched all of those Gruden's QB Class or whatever...and I wasn't impressed by Nassib so I'm surprised that Gruden was. Maybe it comes more from watching his game tape and how he played in multiple pro style offenses and how he was smart enough to call plays at the line etc. That would be the "upside" that Gruden is talking about that the other QB's don't have.
If Buffalo agrees and is really that high on Nassib then they need to do something in Round 1 to get him. I don't think he will last past the Jets in Round 2. I see Buffalo is putting the word out there that they are all of a sudden very high on Tavon Austin. Might be a smoke screen to lure in the Bucs to offer up their pick at 13 plus another pick for our pick. Then with the 13th pick maybe we could trade down again with another team a few picks down that are looking to move up. I'd be ok with getting Nassib late in Round 1 while also adding 2 additional picks!
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I thought it was this thurs for some reason so yesterday I went to set my dvr and I was like oops. I hate waiting. The suspense is killing me!
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i know this is a joke but in all seriousness what's going to happen the first time there is a QB with a completely robotic throwing arm that can throw 100 yards in the air with pinpoint accuracy or a lineman that can bench press 1000 pounds with the help of his robotically repaired upper body? the olympics set a scary precedent with that bladerunner/murderer Oscar Pristorius, who is clearly aided by his unnatural manufactured running legs that give him a huge advantage over the competition. it's only a matter of time before something like this leaks into other sports. baseball pitchers throwing 150 mph, basketball players that can jump 50 inches, boxers with metal fists. science fiction and reality are converging and it's only a matter of time!!!
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wow that's high praise. was it known that Jimbo was going to the USFL before the draft?
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best wishes to Mr.Wilson. hope to see him at the game riding around on his golf cart.
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Anyone else think Nassib seemed too nonchalant on the Gruden camp? Would have liked to see a little more fire and excitement
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Ryan Nassib will be picked before Geno Smith.
I don't think Nassib is as talented but I just get the feeling that he wants it more. I feel like Geno would be happy sitting in his living room painting pictures. I wouldn't be surprised if some scouts saw it that way too
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fyi...Nassib is on Gruden's QB Camp tomorrow night at 7:30pm on ESPN2. The rumor is Gruden really liked him and thinks he is the wildcard in this draft. Looking forward to watching it. Also, Manuel is before him at 7 so might as well watch that too
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I'm not even going to read this. I'm sure it will just make me mad. Every draft for as long as I can remember I end up flipping out and throwing something. Then I try and calm down and think well the guys at OBD do this for a living so surely they see something the rest of us don't see and their pick is going to pan out. Silly me...
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He was in Arizona to win the Super Bowl there too
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I have a feeling the Jets are going to try and screw us in the 2nd and say they are going to draft Nassib if we don't give them one of our other picks later in the draft or something along those lines. They might actually draft him too who knows, they seem to be pretty high on him. It will all depend on what qb's are left at that point of course but the Jets having the pick before us makes me nervous
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If they thought G was that important they would have kept Levitre. There's no way they take a G with the #8 overall pick
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Jordan or Jones. I'd be happy with either at 8. I think Jordan has more potential but Jones is more proven
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I'm pretty sure Manuel will be drafted in the second half of the first. I expect a team to trade up to, say, Minnesota or St. Louis' second
I'd be SHOCKED if Manuel goes in the 1st. I guess we'll see but I haven't heard that kind of buzz on him. He has all the tools but I think he's seen more as a project
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I somewhat expected him to tell us that it was "on like a mofo"
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You're unclear.
Pass rushing linebacker?
Run-stuffing linebacker?
3-down all-around linebacker?
Yes
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So...is he gay or..?
First round trade down seems likely.
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Tampa at 13 will want to move up for a WR or CB... Only dropping 5 picks while also picking up an extra mid round pick or two would be amazing! Two starters for the price of one