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Yes and yes.
you really think San Diego fans would care? I've lived in So. Cal now for almost 5 years and the Chargers are in fear of blackouts quite a bit. how many last year? 3 or 4, wasn't it? the year before they had a few as well. we have billboards on the 15 North advertising free game tix with the purchase of xxx. they've been trying to GIVE those things away as long as I've been here. I'm not sure that many would care or drive to L.A. That's 2+ hours away on a good day.
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No thanks to Urlacher. He is old and broken, unless we're going to hire him as only the LB coach he wont play much for us anyways. And we already have plenty of high-priced Kick Return specialists that dont have a real position on the team, so no thanks to Hester.
agreed. you don't want either one. as much as I have loved Urlacher over the years, he never came back from that knee injury last year. my grandmother is faster than he is now. as for Hester, they RUINED him when they tried to make him a WR. that was an epic fail, but paying the guy $41 million, I guess they had to try.
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Why are you here, troll? Go back to worshipping the Windy City.
I'll tell you why I'm here...because I happen to like the Buffalo Bills and I would love to see you land a good coach. your team dumps all that money into Mario and he barely does squat this year. I would LOVE to see Lovie work with him and the rest of your defense and take your team to a winning season.
plus there is bad info going around here that only a Bears follower can correct. I would welcome you posting at a Bears board with firsthand Bills info.
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His Bears teams have missed the playoffs 5 of the last 6 years...he'd fit right in with a franchise that's missed 13 years in a row.
3 division titles and 1 superbowl appearance in 9 years.
yeah, you should be so lucky.
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The GM/HC connection is completely legit and had Lovie not had 2 additional years on his contract he'd have been out last year just as Angelo was shown the door. When that defense was young it was full of playmakers and 2 HOFers in Urlacher and Briggs and they along with Lovie and Ron Rivera was what took them to the Super Bowl. Once Lovie got that Super Bowl appearance under his belt he demanded more control and got it, and he then jettisoned Rivera. Lovie also has always had great special teams and played most games very close to the vest. To me, he is much more like Dick Jauron than anyone realizes. Also, he was dominated by playoff bound teams. Here is a link to a blog post about his tenure that speaks volumes if you ask me...http://www.dabears.c...k-at-Mediocrity
Also, he could not beat Green Bay with any regularity and has lost 8 of the last 9 against them.
you do realize Jimmors (the blogger) is just another poster like you and I, right? you should see his political posts....eh. the guy's out there.
and since when do people whine about their "weak" schedule when getting to the Superbowl? or when they win 3 NFC North titles? can I whine then that we had to get there with Rex freaking Grossman? or whine that our defense and ST had to bail him out in AZ that same year since he was crapping the bed? in fact, that is the perfect example of how hard they played and they didn't give up no matter what the score read. THAT is on Lovie. THAT is what he teaches. THAT and the record amount of takeaways. A SCORING DEFENSE! Jauron never taught that. Jauron never instilled any pride in players. He never pushed the defense to excellence. Lovie could use a strong OC, but as a HC he's head and shoulders above Jauron.
and I'm sorry, but you beat the teams put in front of you regardless of what their records are. you either win them or you lose them. we can't all be "blessed" with playing SF every week.
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Yes he lost Cutler last year but this year the fade was a direct result of playing good teams IMO and the charter franchise of the NFL has been bordering irrelevance for the last 6 years.
the fade was the direct result of rotating that oline the 2nd half of the year. everyone was hurt. Lost Lance Louis (our best mediocre olineman), benched Carimi and replaced him with Scott, then made Carimi a guard b/c Spencer went down. put in James Brown from off the street. It was a joke what was happening on that line. Cutler getting cheap shotted into a concussion during the Houston game and then missing the SF game didn't help. No way Campbell (or anyone else for that matter) could play behind that line. Campbell was sacked 5 times by Aldon Smith, for God's sake!
bordering on irrelevance for 6 years is a bit extreme too. they won the NFC North in 2010. and were 7-3 before Cutler and Forte went down. no reason to think they couldn't have made the playoffs last year with Cutler and Forte in. If we wouldn't have split with MN, we'd be there this year instead of them. Not really so irrelevant.
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Just say no to Lovie. The Bears have tremendous talent on defense and offense and special teams (except for a couple O-Lineman). They have very few wins (over teams with winning records) in recent years. The Bears canned him because his teams have underachieved.
right - in 2010 they were in the NFC Championship game, 2011 they were 7-3 before Cutler went down, and finished this year 10-6 with Cutler missing 2 games due to concussion. if we hadn't split with Minny, it would be the Bears in the playoffs right now. the more I think on this Lovie firing, the more I see this as a new GM wanting his own guy. otherwise they'd have just blown up the oline, fired Tice and promoted Bates from within. the Bills would be damn lucky to get Lovie, imo.
and as for "a couple olinemen".....I don't even know what that means....the ENTIRE line was a bunch of scrubs. week to week you never knew who was starting.
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The trick is, get fast players. They are harder to find big so if conceding anything the size was first with the scheme. With Mario, Anderson, Kyle, and even dareus, we have big guys that can get after it.
your defense is perfect for Lovie. I've been sitting on this and another thread b/c of that very reason. It would be awesome to see Lovie in Buffalo. You have to get a strong OC with him though. That is key.
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Agree, I can see why Cutler always seemed pissed. He was getting killed out there.
That's exactly why most Chicago fans couldn't care less about Cutler's demeanor. We watched week and week, year after year, the same relentless pounding the guy took. If it was frustrating to the fans, can you imagine how pissed off Cutler was?? When Cutler shoulder bumped Webb during that GB game, we all cheered and were sorry he didn't hit him with a brick instead. Clay Matthews was pounding on Cutler all night. It was insanity.
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I disagree. I would snatch Lovie ASAP! Not only is he a football genius he is also a Defensive minded coach. What buried him in Chicago is his marriage to Cutler. Give him a good QB and good Offensive Coordintor and he will be successful. If Whaley is appointed as GM he will have a say in who is bought in as OC.
BS. What buried him in Chicago was that Oline. When you have garbage draft picks, cast offs from other teams, and dudes off the street protecting your QB, you're sunk. I think Webb was the worst LT 2 years running, yet he's still starting. Freaking joke. Tice as OC and previously mentioned rabid meathead fans sure didn't help his situation either.
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I have not read the whole thread and yes, he has done pretty well with not the greatest of qbs. Chicago is one of the teams I hear A LOT about from people there and it's is eerily familiar to the problems here. New, fresh up and comer who holds people accountable and dare I say .........shows a little fire.
so you "hear" a lot, but have no actual knowledge from following the Bears? if you actually watched the team you'd know that Lovie is completely intolerant of slackers. just ask Tim Jennings, Devin Aromashodu, Matt Forte, Gabe Carimi, Tommy Harris, Major Wright, Zack Bowman, Devin Hester....Those are only the benchings and I could go on for awhile since he was with us for 9 years. Won't even go into the Tank Johnson and Cedric Benson years.
no, Lovie is not a hothead and honestly, I was good with that. I much prefer someone I can respect than a circus freak like Rex Ryan or Jim Schwartz. but hey, if that's what you're looking for, to each his own, I guess.
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did you see cousins play in college? hoo boy. he is a perennial top flite backup- the skins made a good move.
gruden just announced he is remaining at ESPN and will not be coaching again.
jimmy johnson quit on the dolphins, no thanks.
cowher is not realistic.
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what is wrong with a promising college coach given some time to learn and adapt to the NFL?
bears fans have been organizing a lovie lynch mob for years. they have no idea what they are asking for- just taking their frustrations out. the real issue with the bears was their former GM. the bears didn't draft until the third round in '09 and '10 because of the cutler trade.
the Cutler trade was one of the best moves Angelo ever made. with Rodgers and Stafford in the division, we could never even dream of competing with Orton. it was a move that had to be made. what crippled the Bears and eventually cost Lovie his job was Angelo's 10 YEARS of bad drafts. even the drafts before the Cutler trade were mostly garbage. I read a few weeks ago that of the 82 people Angelo drafted, only 22 were still on the team. don't even want to know which are no longer in the NFL.
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Lovie went to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman at quarterback. His defensive nucleus (Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman) has been old for about 5 years now. He has consistently been given zero talent at offensive line. Brandon Marshall is the first true number one wide receiver that he's ever coached.
As I've said elsewhere today I don't think Jerry Angelo did a very good job in providing talent for the Bears and I view Lovie as a guy who overachieved given his talent. You see it differently.
But when I asked you why I should trust your opinion, I was thinking that maybe you live in Chicago and watch the team very closely, have seen every game, etc.
Spot on.
I feel like getting stinking drunk all of a sudden. :-(
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trust me you dont want lovie. he is a better version of dick jauron. cover 2 conervative approach. ask bears fans
As a Bears fan, you'd be lucky to land Lovie. He's nowhere near what Jauron was. I'm totally sorry to see Lovie go and I know a lot of other Bears fans that feel the same. Stop listening to the meatheads. Instead of getting rid of Lovie, they should have fired an inept Mike Tice and cut every offensive lineman on the team.
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Bills fans -
had to register to give you all a mighty congratulations. As a Bears fan, I wanted to get the local take on the Mario saga, so I sat on this thread along with you all for 3 straight days and nights, F5'ing my life away along with the rest of you. Didn't get a dang thing done at work as well. Sleep?? What's that??
Day 1 started out with hoping to see Mario boarding a plane to Chicago, but mid way through Day 2, I was solidly in your camp for him to sign with the Bills. One post that stands out in my mind was "this is very, very dumb. And I am addicted". Amen, brother!! I laughed. I'll tell you what, reading every last post in this thread, I could feel the excitement, the impatience near the end of Day 2 and I was right along with you. I completely respect the dedication you show your team and the Buffalo Bills now have a new fan.
I'm jealous as he!!, don't get me wrong, but you all deserve Super Mario after these last few days. I wish you the best of luck and sincerely hope to see you all in the SB this year. (playing my Bears, of course!) Be well!
Marc Trestman is HC of Bears
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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There are two things to keep in mind about the Bears search though:
A) It's a two interview process.
B) They are looking at playoff teams coordinators as well. Tom Clements-GB, Rick Dennison-HOU, Mike McCoy-DEN, Darrell Bevell-SEA, and Bruce Arians who was just released from the hospital.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0113-bears-coach-chicago--20130113,0,5919829.story