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On 9/25/2025 at 1:41 PM, GoBills808 said:
lol you realize the Bucs had won the SB two yrs prior and were coming off back to back division titles
perspective indeed
I do realize Baker just won a game with 3rd and 4th string receivers and they look like they might win another division title. They are far enough removed from the Brady SB win to acknowledge Baker is doing damn fine. And my point on him in my original post is valid. More than valid.
LOL?! Perspective?!?
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2 hours ago, MJS said:
What if I told you that the defense actually played pretty decently against the Saints?
- Under 300 yards of offense allowed
- Only 109 passing yards, 3.5 yards per pass
- Allowed 5 conversions on 15 attempts on 3rd and 4th down (33%)
- 1 Interception, 3 sacks, and a forced fumble
Yeah, the rushing yards allowed were not great, but the overall production and defense was not bad.
If you look at the last 3 drives of the 1st half for the Saints, and the beginning drive of the 2nd half, it went like this:
Josh throws a pick, and the Saints take over at the 50-yard line. We hold them to a punt. The offense can't do anything with the ball, so we punt.
The Saints take over at their 30-yard line, and we hold them to a FG. We get the kickoff and can't do anything with it, again, so we punt.
The Saints take over at OUR 40-yard line. Their last drive of the half. They were trying to double-dip (they get the ball to start the 2nd half). We get an int.
So, to end the half the Saints started 2 those 3 drives at the 50 or inside the 50 and we gave up 3 points and screwed up their double-dip strategy.
Saints get the 2nd half kick-off. We make them punt. We come down to score a TD, basically screwing the double-dip attempt (thanks defense).
Pretty sure we didn't make a 4th down attempt to begin the 4th, and the Saints got the ball at... the 50 yard-line again (WTF, offense?!).
The defense basically bailing out the offense. But of course, that's not how some here see it. Hint: it's the same group of complainers.
We may not win the Dolphins game w/o the defensive play to cause a late int. The offense wasn't exactly tearing it up that game.
How many FF during the Jets game? At least 3. Two by Bosa and one by Cam Lewis.
We don't beat the Ravens without the defense forcing the big fumble by Henry. Those that choose to call it lucky, well, what is there to say?! AND, we held them to 0 points in the pivotal 4th qt. That's nothing to sneeze at.
The defense has played a very important part in all 4 victories. And we are still waiting on 3/4 very important pieces to return in Milano, Hoecht, Hairston and Oliver. At least let the defense play together as a whole before wanting to get rid of a coach.
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2 hours ago, Jdragon2 said:
Sure, cause players like Mike Evans can throw themselves the ball. Or Calais Campbell can score on Offense.
I think the general question was what good players, who have been in the league a long time and possibly on bad teams, deserve to have won a superbowl. I liked what Simon posted above
It looks like the general question was not exactly a question. To quote the OP "So, give your list of the current 3 active players who most deserve it. Take some time to research it, too, if you'd like. Many older players are in the league but most of them have a SB Ring." I like what Jdragon2 posted. You don't have to like or agree, but he contributed here, like the OP asked. HINT: there is no right answer. Just opinions. Yours isn't any more coreect than Jdragon2. No matter what Simon says.
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14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
i mean you think a team w Josh Allen, Nick Chubb, and Myles Garrett is going to be bad or something?
you think he wouldn't have torn up the AFCE same way he is now if he was throwing to Garrett Wilson
They were bad with Baker and all he’s done is win 2 straight nfcs titles with the Bucs. They’ve shown they don’t know how to develop qbs. It’s right in your face but you refuse to see it. Same with the Jets and the cardinals. I get though…see below.
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6 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Triggered?
you wrote “imagine Allen with the Jets, Browns and Cardinals” as if the 2000-2017 Bills were any different.
We had a 17 year playoff drought. We were on an HC and QB carousel. During that time, the Jets and Cardinals, while both being relatively bad, were winning playoff games, going to conference championships and in the Cardinals case, almost winning a Super Bowl.
What evidence is there that the Bills were a better organization than those two?The only evidence is what happened after the Bills drafted the right QB who is a future HoFer in 2018 and those two teams did not.
Point blank, period.
Maybe I wasn't making my point clear enough. So here goes: And... this regime developed him to what he is now. Point blank, period. That is not something you should just "forget". Do you think it's a coincidence that Baker is way more successful with the Bucs than with the Browns? I didn't know there were Josh Allen sunglasses being sold. Where can I get a pair? How much did they cost you?
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Just now, GoBills808 said:
yes 100%
Yes, to my question that Allen would have done as well?
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4 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Imagine if Allen went to a terribly dysfunctional organization with a terrible reputation and recent history of 15+ years of incompetence?
I can’t imagine it either
I wrote "
This thread brings to mind how so many here say Beane is lucky he has Allen. "If Allen were injured, we would win 4-5 games." is what I read here. Well, duh. That would be the case for any team that loses a QB of that caliber. I believe Allan realizes how lucky he was that he wasn't drafted by the Jets, Browns, or Cardinals that year. It's not surprising to see these QBs perform better when they leave those crap franchises. Allen had a lot of things to work on when he entered the league, and he got selected by the perfect franchise to help him achieve what he has so far. Just imagine Josh with the Jets, Browns, or Cardinals early in his career. They would have ruined him. At least until he was able to get away from that franchise. Even then, he may have been too broken by those franchises. All this to say, great job, Beane. Keep it up!
On a side note: I feel if Beane was part of the 2017 draft, he would have drafted Mahomes, if he was available during our pick. JMO."
Your reply has the feel of someone who was triggered by the statement in bold. Maybe I'm reading your post wrong. If so, my apologies. Your reply aside, do you think Allen does as well if he is drafted by the franchises I mentioned?
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This thread brings to mind how so many here say Beane is lucky he has Allen. "If Allen were injured, we would win 4-5 games." is what I read here. Well, duh. That would be the case for any team that loses a QB of that caliber. I believe Allan realizes how lucky he was that he wasn't drafted by the Jets, Browns, or Cardinals that year. It's not surprising to see these QBs perform better when they leave those crap franchises. Allen had a lot of things to work on when he entered the league, and he got selected by the perfect franchise to help him achieve what he has so far. Just imagine Josh with the Jets, Browns, or Cardinals early in his career. They would have ruined him. At least until he was able to get away from that franchise. Even then, he may have been too broken by those franchises. All this to say, great job, Beane. Keep it up!
On a side note: I feel if Beane was part of the 2017 draft, he would have drafted Mahomes, if he was available during our pick. JMO.
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Just now, billvernsays said:
He made an incredible play. Henry usually doesn’t fumble like ever so regardless of how great of a play Ed made, Henry publicly stated that he feels the loss was on him.
Oliver could have publicly stated the win was on him, due to an incredible play. Henry's public statement shouldn't diminish Oliver's play, which I took from the Dr's post. I could be mistaken on what Dr. was implying. If so, my apologies to you Dr. See below.
"Henry got cocky about his stiff arm and tried to stiff arm Ed in traffic, allowing Ed to get to the football. He needs to save those stiff arms for DBs in space."
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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Henry got cocky about his stiff arm and tried to stiff arm Ed in traffic, allowing Ed to get to the football. He needs to save those stiff arms for DBs in space.
So, Ed just got lucky. Got it.
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12 minutes ago, billvernsays said:
By not having a (good) process in place to challenge plays e.g. Tyreek’s Bobble, Josh Allen’s 1st down against the Ravens, we are at a big disadvantage especially when we play better teams/coaches.
I see those 2 non challenges as big mistakes on Sean Mc and without timely mistakes from D Henry and The Dolphins we could easily be 1-2 vs 3-0.
Tonight I have McDermotts actions directly leading to 11 points for the dolphins (challenge would have put them 4th and 4 on the 1st drive - 7 points , and the bizarre time outs at the end of the half allowed Miami to go for a TD when they were content running the clock to keep Josh off the field - 4 extra points) Without that gift of the roughing the kicker penalty we could’ve easily lost last night because of these decisions.
Does this concern anyone else or am I missing something?
What mistake did Henry make? I remember Oliver knocking the ball out of Henry's hands. That is a great defensive play. No? Eventually this "we can't keep counting on lucky turnovers" thought process has to end. The D has been good at creating turnovers for years. I do agree on McD missing out on a couple of challenges, though.
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3 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said:
so that gets you 80 million in this league? dayumm good work if you can get it.
Yes, dayumm good work, IF YOU CAN GET IT. Go give it a shot and tell us how it worked out for ya.
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12 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I think the more disappointing drop off has been Ty Johnson. I get he has 3rd down skills that gives him some role on the team, but he seems like a little bit of a waste.
Ray Davis at least is on a rookie deal and has had moments as a backup getting 20 plus carries.
Ty Johnson is at a blistering 1.6 yards per target
Ty is also averaging 6.1 yds per rush attempt. He is a RB, no? They've only played 3 games. Pretty sure that 1.6 avg. will go up.
Back to the original topic, Cook is worth every dollar. You don't pay a RB that much to sit the bench. With the new contract, he should see an uptick in usage, which will affect the other RBs #s. That's not a bad thing, guys. Again, I am pretty sure that 1.6 avg. will go up as the season progresses. It's only been 3 games.
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4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
There was never a single moment where Worthy was the correct pick for the Bills and their needs. Still true now, just as it was true on draft night.
It’s wild this is even still discussed.
PS - Keon was on pace for a better season than Worthy and on pace for 1,000 yards before he got hurt as a rookie. And that was on a spread the ball around offense where he was not a primary target as a rookie. Worthy was a starter the whole season and essentially the 2nd option on that team with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
The Bills are a better football team with Keon on it today than if Worthy was on it instead.
I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere but, last season Worthy had 59 rec. at a 10.9 yd per rec clip.
Coleman had 29 rec , but at a 19.2 yd per rec clip. I know it’s about half the receptions (due to injury) but, it SHOULD be hard to ignore that difference in the yards per receptions. Wasn’t Worthy supposed to be the bigger down field threat between the two? -
18 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said:
I have an idea, let's bring back all the players we haven't beaten the chiefs or bengals with in the playoffs, that'll get it done. brilliant.
Seems like an odd statement. Josh hasn’t beaten the Chiefs or Bengals in the playoffs either. Dawkins, Benford, Milano., Cook. I could go on. Let’s let them all walk, dammit!
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13 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:
He should not have gone public and shouldn't have set the bar that high. I'm guessing Beane says prove you are worth 15 million a year next year. He needs to be a difference maker on offense and he's not there yet.
Yeah, leading the league in rushing tds isn’t elite. If espn is right he was tied with Henry and Gibbs for the league lead with 16. More than Barkley, B. Robinson, D. Montgomery, etc.
Step 1 in contract negotiations is start high, if you’re the player.
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9 hours ago, BananaB said:
Said it a few days ago and I’ll say it again. Beane is the most overrated person in this organization. Dawkins and Tre were part of Whaley’s last draft. Hyde and Poyer were also Whaleys last free agency. The only real impact player Beane brought to this team is Allen. Luckily for him Josh has been carrying this team on his back since his third season.
Maybe add Milano to that list but dude is made of glass
Were you part of the “Shanahan and Lynch are better “ group here? Just curious.
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15 hours ago, Bruffalo said:
Let's be real here. Practically every professional athlete is on some kind of PED, and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
The problem here is that they got caught. I guarantee you the majority of the Bills (and every other team in the NFL) are on something and everyone looks the other way.
True statement, but the mob will reply with “ oh, no, not our beloved Bills! You shut yo mouf!” 😂
Whatever happened to “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying!?!
Some in that mob actually think they can do a better job than Beane. Madden fans.
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18 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:
Is it sad that this dude is better than Elam?
No.
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36 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
Does Amari even want to play football anymore? Seemed like he couldn’t have cared less.
Blah, blah, blah. And Stephon Gilmore didn’t smile enough to be here. Where do people get this stuff?
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6 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:
Tons. I don't have them all in front of me. But there have been many times where we have restructured deals to open up cap space and people would say "oh, there's gotta be another signing coming" or "oh, they must be trying to resign this player" and very rarely happens. Most times they were just trying to become cap compliant
Very convincing examples. 😂
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16 regular season rushing tds and a 2 more receiving. Tied with D Henry and J Gibbs for most rushing touchdowns last season. Playing one less game than those two. It’s not like he’s Devin Singletary asking for that much. Typically 3-4 more good years left in him. He’s asking at the right time. Keeping him during his peak years isn’t a bad idea. And he’s just peaking now. JMO.
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7 hours ago, Victory Formation said:
I am very underwhelmed so far… I love the Allen and Rousseau extensions but I have a real bad feeling about Hoecht and Palmer.. What the eff are we even doing?
What Beane is doing is being one of the best GMs in the league. That’s what the eff he’s doing. How many straight division titles, 2nd in the league in scoring. We exceeded expectations last year by a mile and people here still B word and moan. Of course someone like you doesn’t get what he’s doing. He knows his job, better than anyone here. Way better. Let him do his job.
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On 2/21/2025 at 9:20 AM, Pete said:
Packers WR corps are better and deeper then Buffalo. Reed made $1.4 million in 24, Watson $1.9 million, $3.3 million. So for a fraction of Coopers salary, the Pack gets 3 WRs who can separate and catch. To me, this is brilliant.
One and done in 2 of the last three playoff appearances. BRILLIANT!
It’s like you’re saying “your wife is prettier than mine.”
You know who else has better receivers? Cincy. Helluva playoff run they had this year. BRILLIANT!
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When Allen was drafted, it was their first year as a Gm/Coach duo! They took over a dysfunctional program, not created one. Ok, in that one year they didn’t wipe away 20 years of dysfunction, but since, nothing!?!? I guess it doesn’t matter, cuz you have a point to make. Even if you’re wrong. You go ahead and not enjoy what’s happening with this franchise now. Watching football with you must suck. Pretty bad.
What a miserable way to be a fan.
Yay, you got it!!
Bro, ***** on. You know what you wrote. It’s there for you to see.