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i dont get the talk of trading back up or taking Dalton in the first when he was still on the board when they picked in the second
I like dareus but I wouldnt have had a problem picking Green and Dalton after watching them play together all year
I like dareus but I wouldnt have had a problem picking Green and Dalton after watching them play together all year
It's comments like this that really piss me off. Nix doesn't have the luxury of hindsight. For all you Nix bashers, take a look at the #1 overall pick in the draft history and tell me what the odds are that this player will be all world. By the way, IMO Fitz would have taken the Bengals to the playoffs this year. He's better than Dalton at this moment.
But according to nix last year there wasn't anyone there at #3 that would be worth the pick at QB to build around, and according to fans there won't be anyone at #10 (Projected pick).
Imagine for a moment, Dalton (my personal favorite last year) or even Jake Locker at QB for us after trading down a few spots and getting more talent on this team. We are only going to win 6 games, I don't think we would have lost more. Oh and we would have our QB of the future on the roster NOW with a full season under his belt etc.
And fans wonder why we are always at the bottom of the heap and never see the playoffs. But never fear we have the Amish BB Gun with his magic beard to lead us...
Ahh, the power of hindsight!!!
There are a few QB's that can lead a bad team to the playoffs and Dalton is not one of them. I'm glad we stayed where we were in the draft. I like the past draft of ours alot. I'd rather have Marcell than Dalton any day.
Why not argue that Dalton could have been taken with our 2nd round pick?
As per the original post - I don't think that Dalton would have been the Bills next rated QB. My guess is the next QB on their list would have been Gabbert (how'd Jacksonville do this year?).
Argue all you want, it's a waste of time and makes him sound like a whiner. Please understand that Nix and Gailey do not have the luxury of hindsight like you do.
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You are wrong. I'm not going to dig it all up for you, but it was clear at the time that the decision to trade Evans was made by Ralph's accountants, and Nix and Buddy grudgingly went along with it because they had no choice.
"I'm not going to dig it up"- That is too funny. So, it was clear that the accountant made this trade? Not Lee's lack of production?
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Isn't he the inside backers coach? Edwards is responsible for getting the most out of what he has to work with. Has he done that? I am not sure.
I posted a month or so ago some numbers through the 1st 7 games to show that this D, when healthy was creating turnovers at a rate that was at or near the top of the league. This was no accident. We didn't have a lot of sacks, but was creating pressure and causing turnovers. We still gave up a ton of yardage, but we knew we still needed LB help. It wasn't just int's, we had a few fumble recoveries too. Once we lost Kyle and Merrimam you could see a differnce in the lack of pressure. So now our NT spot is weak, so we put Marcell in that spot, weakening the DE spot that was Marcell's.Now you throw in the loss of Troupe, Mcgee, A. Williams(for a few games), and G. Wilson for a few games. When healthy, the D helped win games even with a lack of top talent and depth(look at the turnover #'s and Def. TD's in the first 6-7 games). He got the most out of what he had to work with. Right now, he doesn't have much to work with. Now if we could get someone like Phillips, I'm alkl for it but I'm willing to give hime another season.
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and what if he won't accept that deal? Rumor had him asking for top 5 money and that would be a big mistake, IMHO.
We do have the option to franchise hime like SD did with V. Jackson. Can we trade a player that we franchised?
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as long as he comes cheap, otherwise, f'em. Hes not fast, only has ok size, but questionable hands and hes immature. Id be happy to keep him though, hes still good, just not great. I remember a guy who had great hands,awesome speed, and never did or said one wrong thing. Also caught about 5 tiems as many td's as johnson has in his career and we just gave him away. Do i need to say his name?
If you havent noticed yet,stevies a great number 2.
as long as he comes cheap, otherwise, f'em.
And then you complain when he signs with the Pats or Jets how Ralph is cheap.
I remember a guy who had great hands,awesome speed, and never did or said one wrong thing. Also caught about 5 tiems as many td's as johnson has in his career and we just gave him away. Do i need to say his name?
He's been in the league alot longer, I hope he caught more than Stevie. It's not like Lee's a Probowler. Let Stevie go and you are writing the same thing next season. Show me where we have a more talented receiver that we can afford to let him walk. We already dicussed FA's won't come here, so lets get rid of whatever talent we have and replace him with... oh yea, no one wants to come here.
I guess we can get rid of Stevie and go 0-16? Those WR's will look super-solid with Brad Smith at #1 and David Nelson at #2 ? Complaining about the one talented player we have makes no sense.......
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Merriman will be the Comeback Player of the Year in 2012. That's why you don't get rid of him.
Posts of conjecture work both ways.
GO BILLS!!!
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My question to you is WHY? Why keep Merriman? So that he can take up camp space and hinder development of a player with potential?
If Merriman's name was "Joe Smith" people would be screaming to cut him. I hate to say this, HE WILL GET HURT AGAIN. This is the NFL. This is the most violent sport in the world. He has been hurt the past 3 years and unfortunately his injuries are VERY serious. His body will never be the same as it once was which leaves him vulnerable for future injuries. There is a reason why he resigned with Buffalo...Buffalo was the only team offering him that type of contract. I was fine with it to give it a shot. Thought there was great upside...but when a player lasts for 6 weeks (most being preseason) before going on the IR AGAIN there is a trend.
What is funny is that Buffalo fans want Buffalo to get better...yet we are never willing to give up on players. I am not saying that they dont have talent, but when you cannot depend on those players what good are they?
Why?!? Why not. If he is one of the top 53 players in camp he should stay on the roster. Parrish, when healthy is better than what we have out there now. It's a gamble that any player will stay healthy all season. IMO Roscoe is worth the gamble. Did you see what we are rolling out there for receivers? Roscoe would probably look good out there right about now.
What is funny is that Buffalo fans want Buffalo to get better...yet we are never willing to give up on players.
Whats funny is that when we do give up on players people complain about that(Willis, Lynch, Maybin, Poz,Fletch, etc).
And you replace them with who? You have to create cap space for who? Stupid argument when one is under contract. I agree, let Parrish walk. Receivers are a dime a dozen anymore. Get one that is fast and bigger than Parrish.
Receivers are a dime a dozen anymore.
I say keep him and see if it works out. We needed more than a dozen this season. We have a dime to spare. Right Ralph?!
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That answers that. Thanks.
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I know he's on IR, but I believe he's a FA after this season. Given the state of our wr's, I say bring him in and let him fight for a job. We could use his speed, and he looked good in the slot 'till he got hurt. I know he hasn't stayed healthy much, but we need all the wr help we can get. Hopefully Easley and Roscoe can provide some help to this depleted postion,almost like 2 free draft picks. We need it. Thoughts?
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I disagree almost completely with that statement
The pats have Tom Brady, a sure fire HoF QB, a WR that leads the league in receptions, 2 great TEs, one of which is going to set records in catches and TD's. a good running game, a way better O line. To top that off the Pats have a SB winning HC who is considered one of the best NFL head coaches ever!
The defense is their weak spot with an average DC who really isn't very good as he keeps putting his players in the wrong schemes at times. Still they are getting turnovers and could come together as a unit and get better because they have some decent talent on that defense.
As for the Bills vs the Redskins, the Bills got extremely lucky when they played as the Skins lost a bunch of O linemen, coupled with starting QB John Beck experiment that was an utter failure. Then considering the Redskins field the 11th ranked defense in the NFL is why the Patriots played them close
The Patriots field a team that is by far so superior to the Buffalo Bills is every single facet, players, coaches, schemes. The Patriots are a super bowl caliber team with a passing defense not doing very well this season, and a rushing defense in the top 15. Right now their secondary is very banged up.
I guess we agree to disagree. Replace Welker with Stevie and I think you'll see Stevie is a better option(think about it, Brady to Stevie). I already mentioned Brady and the TE's, but that line is not alot better than ours, not even close to being alot better. A good running game? Come on! That Oline is aging. As for the coach, no argument there. I don't think the Giants beat us in the SB if not for Bellicheck being on the staff. That D sucks like ours and for the same reasons. They don't have the LB's to run a 3-4, so Bellicheck is running mostly a 4-3, while we run a "hybrid". As for the rush D for the Pats, you have to pass to keep up with that offense, and why run when passing on them is so easy and picks up bigger chuncks of yardage? That team is not by far better than us. Brady, the TE's and staff are where they have us beat. Pretty even after that.IMO.
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I agree with this. The Pats are lower than they've been in 10 years and their defense might be the worst in the entire NFL.
On the other hand, I feel the Jets are only a few players away from being a Super Bowl contender.
I agree with you on the Jets, but that window is closing pretty fast. I think they have 2 yrs left after this one to win a Super Bowl.
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Before I get started just wanted to say I've been reading these boards for awhile and I'm very happy to have found a place to discuss the Bills with fellow fans. I am in my mid 20s and have been following drafts closely since 1998. My conclusions about all the qbs drafted since 1998 lead me to believe that many of you are approaching this topic all wrong. Would a franchise QB slove a lot of our problems? You bet. But you've been asking the wrong question all along when defining a franchise QB. For bills fans the question should be how many QBS in the NFL today could come into Buffalo without any other on field changes and win football games. I count 6 since 1998. That's right only 6. Both Mannings, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben and Brees. And two of those guys weren't even first rounders. So 4 first rounders in 13 years. Sure some of you may place a few more names in but not very many. What the bills need to do is increase talent across the board. After all take a look at the number of teams with iffy qbs in this years playoff hunt. Sanchez, Flacco, Smith, Tebow, Hasselbeck, Dalton. These guys are all asked to do little more than manage a ballgame, something Fitz would be more than capable of given good talent around him. Teams win games, that's how Hasselback and Grossman and Delhomme have made recent Super Bowls. And Guys like Cassel, Garrad, Jeff Garcia and Jake Plummef and Todf Collins have all been playoff qbs going back 5 or 6 years. No drafted QB will succeed in Buffalo as it is currently constructed. Fitz is good enough to win games if given adequate talent. Lets do that and then worry about a QB. Thanks for reading my first post happy to be on board
No drafted QB will succeed in Buffalo as it is currently constructed.
Not here to argue, but I watched the Pats replay on NFL network and couldn't help but think that the Pats are only a few players better than us.I know, I Know, I must be on crack to say such things. Take a look at the replay, they couldn't stop the Skins(who we shut out). They have no running game and no deep threat for Crists sake and that Oline needs help. The only major difference I see is Brady (the obvious one)and the 2 TE's(esp. Gronk)that make up for the lack of deep speed. But really, Brady is what makes them run right now. Without him the Pats are the Colts part II. This team would run so much better with a franchise QB, but since theres only 5 or so of them out ther, I agree, keep building this team. I think I'm gonna like what I see next season.
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I don't see him as top 20-25. I look around the league and EVERY TEAM has at least one receiver I'd prefer over SJ. Statistically, he's at #24 right now (yards receiving). BUT, his lack of hands, intelligence, and potential are very obvious.
Some guys i'd prefer over him who are statistically lower:
Percy Harvin
Golden Tate
Deion Branch
Dez Bryant
Reggie Wayne
Desean Jackson
Mike Williams (TB)
Michael Crabtree
So, I place him at #32
I say draft the best available WR with the 1st pick.
You would pay Crabtree more than Stevie?! Mike Wlliams?!Out of this list, I would only take Dez and maybe Reggie(he's alot older). As for the rest maybe Tate and that's a big maybe. I can't see those guys doing what Stevie did to Revis. With a better compliment on the other side, OR a nice pass recieving TE, Stevie would put up #1 type numbers. Most people say this now, 'till we get rid of him and complain when he does well elsewhere(Maybin, Mcgahee, etc.). By the way, you say you place him at 32. How many teams are there in the NFL? If my math is right I count 32. So you have him at 32 and he's definetly not a #1, right?!
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He is, without a doubt, the #1 WR on the Bills, and I can't think of a team who has a worse #2 paired with their #1 WR than the Bills do (and I like Nelson). He is the WR that gets all the attention. Also, he and Fitz seem to have great chemistry.
And by the way, did you see what he did to Revis, most experts' best cornerback? He absolutely torched him. He is the second best player on the offense, behind Freddy, and I'm scared to imagine the dropoff in production for this offense without him.
And why, on this board of all places, where every other post seems to be a "Ralph is cheap" post, would anyone care how much he is paid? The Bills have the cap room. Its not our money. And contracts aren't guaranteed, so he can be cut at anytime. This isn't the NBA where one overpay will kill you.
To me, SJ is a must sign. Franchise him if need be.
And why, on this board of all places, where every other post seems to be a "Ralph is cheap" post, would anyone care how much he is paid?
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According to all the Evans lovers that were pissed when he got traded, he was only making $3 million a year, not $9 million a year.
I didn't read the contract, but maybe it was front loaded. Quit reaching.
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You can add Jason Peters, Jabari Greer, Winfield, & Fred Jackson all to that list.
So you're saying Chris Kelsay is worth the last contract extension?
Hell, don't forget to add Bruce Smith, Thurman, and Cornelious Bennett. They all left for more money(past their prime), but were extended while here. That last statement was not relevent to the topic. The topic is not extending black players. Not whether a white guy's contract was worth it(even though we all know he's not worth it).
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When the was last time a non-white Bills player received a contract extension in the likes that Schobel & Fitzptraick received?
That's a loaded question. When was the last time we had anyone worth extending? Starting QB's are highly paid throughout the league(deserved or not), as are DE's. When was the last time we had a black QB worth extending a contract to or black DE worth extending?
Except that it was Stevie's agent who put the Bills on the back burner, and Fred was told he would get a deal when Fitz and Pears were signed since they were FA's now and Fred has another year on his deal. Other than that you might be on to something.
.PTR
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This is going to be a controversial topic, I know, but I was wondering when the last time a non-white Bills player got a big contract extension?
We've seen players like Schobel, Kelsay, Fitzpatrick and K. Williams (he definitely deserved it) all get good contract extensions. But, they couldn't give extensions to Jason Peters, let Jabari Greer walk, Antoine Winfield, and now Stevie Johnson (as contract talks broke off, because the team couldn't come close on numbers with Johnson's camp).
Is this just a coincedence or is someone (or some people) not willing to pay non-white Bills players a large payday?
This topic is not that controversial, it's actually a non-topic.Pretty sure this franshise has made as many black millionares as any other. Now, if all we did was draft white players, then you are on to something. The OP is either a racist himself or an idiot. Maybe both. But thats just my opinion.
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Johnson's camp said they were going to wait until the offseason, because the Bills were offering nowhere close to what Johnson's agent wanted.
Jackson verbally stated that he was unhappy with his contract, and got really PO'd when there was talk that the starting RB position was Spiller's job to lose.
So, maybe you're the one with the reading comprehension problem?!
So, because Johnson's agent didn't get what he wants, Ralph is racist?!?!?
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Gotta wonder why Chan Gailey can't find coaches like this, but Mike Leach can...
Mike Smith's name doesn't appear anywhere on the Jets' official roster, a list that includes 19 coaches on staff. He's not on the team's website. To most Jets fans, he doesn't exist. As a coaching intern, Smith beats the sun to work each day, doing "the grunt work," Rex Ryan says, electronically diagramming plays for the defensive game-plans, helping defensive coordinator Mike Pettine run meetings, logging up to 20 hours a day, pitching in any way he can. Smith, 30, gets a nominal paycheck every couple weeks. He lives rent-free in Pettine's townhouse near the team facility. He's also Maybin's de facto personal coach, spending countless hours helping the former Bills first-round pick find his way.
"Without him, I'd probably be a fish without fins in the open sea," says Maybin, who is an NFL Comeback Player of the Year candidate with his team-high six sacks and four forced fumbles in nine games. "He understands me better than any of my coaches since I was in college. He's one of the biggest reasons I'm doing what I'm doing now."
Link - Unknown intern Mike Smith helped revive Aaron Maybin's career
Don't know why the Bills can't find seem to find any good coaches like Smith to help our pathetic defense - but I guess we should be glad he's leaving the Jets and headed to Pullman, Washington to join his old college coach at Wazzu...
Link - Mike Leach Reportedly Hires Mike Smith As Linebackers Coach
This is the same staff that drafted Vernon Gholston with a top 10 pick(I believe) and couldn't utilize him properly. We are not the only team with busts.
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It's very hard to argue the talent side when we are burned by a TE that didn't get me any fantasy points until Sunday
Do you mean the future Hall of Famer who is now healthy and would do that to just about anyone when healthy?!?! So you picked him and it didn't work out too well?!?!? Some talent evaluator you are. Sounds familiar, huh? The Bills staff is not the only one who gets burned by injuries?!
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Ok, one more time...
The Bills have approached Stevie and Freddie. It is Stevie's camp and Freddie's camp that decided to wait until after the season. It takes two to tango.
The Bills approached Jackson in preseason during the "starter controversy". He chose to wait.
The Bills were in talks with Johnson, but when talks stalled, Johnson's camp pulled out. He chose to wait.
This was all widely reported and Buddy talked about it in his post-Fitz signing interview.
Thanks for clearing things up, but these guys will find something else to B word about.
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Only in Buffalo would Demetrius Bell and Chris Hairston count as significant injuries to an offensive line. Meanwhile, the Patriots have started four guys at center this season.
It's practically criminal to enter the season with Hairston as your swing tackle and Bell starting given the latter's injury history. Or, not having a backup center. Or expecting your best guard to double as a OLT. The list goes on and on, and we're not even talking about Spencer Johnson having to play OLB when Merriman got hurt. Sense a trend here?
Yea, I sense a trend. A lot of babies on board who need a life. QUIT CRYING! We know, we know already!!! So whenever an ex player does well we're going to B word. Get a life people. I heard Mario Hagan recovered a fubmle for a TD somewhere! Oh no, what a mistake that he's not here anymore. Nate Clemments made a tackle last week! Oh no, what a mistake he's not here anymore. I saw Takeo make a tackle against us too, oh no!!! You all wanted Maybin gone(Ok 95%) and now the front office made a mistake!QUIT CRYING!
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Come on.
Where, what, huh?!?!
So Brees was a 2nd round pick.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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You sound like a candidate for a job at OBD. You can talk to Nix and Gailey about your thoughts and how hindsight makes you smarter than they are.
So, you don't like this past draft? Spiller is turning out OK too. You should apply for a job at OBD. They really need you.
Hindsight,Hindsight,Hindsight,Hindsight,Hindsight