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1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said:
I'd prefer he take the Charles Haley route and get 5 rings by getting three more with the Bills
The Charles Haley club ? You are shooting to low, how about the Tom Brady club 🤩
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1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:
unless the cap expands a heck of a lot in the next few years, this whole thing may fall apart in 2-3 years.. McD will get fired, all the schemes will change, the dead cap hits will explode, and we'll be right back where we started from during the drought.
Is spending our way back to drought-land worth winning a SB, which itself is more crap shoot (see Bengals this year) than ever. Is it? What if they can't stay healthy during the VonMiller "shinyobjectoverspend" era? Then its 2025, all the talent gets cut to get down to the cap, etc, etc. Drought city.
they had a roster capable of winning it last year, one ST coach shat the bed at crunch time to screw that up. why all of a sudden change course and wreck the cap chasing older shiny objects? Have they suddenly lost the faith in the process that got them to the brink of the trophy? What happened to "doing your 1/11th". Team defense. Team culture. Hell, lets go sign freakin Jarvis Landry, who makes Star's selfishness look like child's play. Lets blow it all up to get one trophy that will collect dust for rest of Josh's career.
so much for "trusting the process" ... the process just got tossed out the window. not sure I am good with this. We shall see.
Ridiculous post. I won't tear apart your complete misunderstanding of the NFL salary cap and how it works and how it will look. I want to focus on ONE statement in your post . . .
"Is spending our way back to drought-land worth winning a SB" ??
YES. YES. YES. YES.
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Hate turned to respect
GOAT
I can't imagine anyone ever replicating his 7 Super Bowl wins, 10 appearances
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The NFL doesn't begin working on dates for 2022 schedule until after Super Bowl
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11 hours ago, BaaadThingsMan said:
I hate this.
The Bills and NFL will be making a ton more money with a new stadium.
Pegulas net worth and Forbes evaluation of the team will likely go way up as well.
It's greedy.
***** PSLs
The NFL is not a non-profit organization.
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19 minutes ago, wjag said:
So that was the theory pitched when the expansion Ravens came to town. Buy the PSLs, it's an investment. Here is the fine print... If you fail to renew your seasons, you lose the PSL (hence why I dubbed it the personal sucker license). The team could sell it to the next person all over again. My buddy bought the PSL back in the day. He did sell it for a profit, but after holding it for 10+ years, he made about 1000 on four seats..
If you can sell your PSL to someone else, why would you ever not use it and let team resell
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It is important to understand the two key factors in the economic viability of an NFL team in Buffalo
1- The salary cap, which, for most teams to be competitive, they need to spend close to it, is set based on approximately 50% of the NFL Revenues
2- The revenues that are shared do not include ALL the Revenues that are used to set the salary cap.
So, as the total revenues increase, the cap goes up for all teams. Simple example, let's say Cowboys get $640M for local sponsorship for AT&T stadium. Cowboys get $640M. Players get $320M of that in the form of a higher cap, so, each team's cap goes up by $10M (32 x $10). So, Buffalo needs to spend $10M more to stay close to cap and be competitive. Meanwhile, Jerry spends $10 more but gets to pocket $630M ($640M - $10M)
Ralph warned of the impact of non-shared revenue on small market teams and there are some formula offsets that redirect additional money to smaller teams like Buffalo, but, nowhere close to make the economics equal.
To stay competitive and economically viable, Buffalo has to continue to increase local revenues via higher ticket prices, PSL's, suite sales and sponsorships
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8 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
1. Jerry Jones will use every ounce of political capital that he has to block a third NFL team in Texas.
2. Nothing is competing with UT in the Austin market. Nothing.
3. San Antonio could probably support a team even though its numbers are inflated by a huge military presence which is a transient population, but see #1.
4. Last I checked everywhere outside of Houston is Cowboys country.
In my first post I said I didn't think another team in Texas would happen, but, Jerry is only one owner. But, let's set aside that potential threat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._metropolitan_areas_by_GDP
Metro areas by GDP
Orlando, Portland, St Louis and San Diego are all in the Top 30.
Buffalo isn't in the Top 50 !
Buffalo doesn't have the money to compete, we need the state and local politicians to understand and appreciate this fact and provide partial funding for a new stadium so the team does not move. Public funding and tax breaks for NY area stadium / arenas:
Yankee stadium, $1.2B
Mets stadium, $600M
Barclays, $500M
etc,
Don't let politicians fool you, they have the money, it's time for Buffalo to get their share !!
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17 hours ago, Jauronimo said:
Buffalo as football market includes southern Ontario and WNY over to Syracuse which needs to be factored in. There are some cities that are bigger but as football markets few make any real sense.
See above.
Most of the market's on So Cal Deek's list all have additional population centers from which they would draw, similar to Buffalo. For instance, San Antonio metro is 2.5M, but, Austin is about hour and 20 minute drive (similar to Rochester to Buffalo) and Austin metro is about 2.5M.
Population is one measure, but, economic health is the truer measure to support PSL's and suites. That is where the real issue resides with Buffalo. Attendance has never been an issue in Buffalo (which has the lowest seat prices), but, suite sales have always lagged.
Buffalo is at a significant disadvantage when we start talking about the heart of the issue, MONEY !!
Like I said, ALL of us should support and encourage NY state and local politicians to invest in the Bills and help fund and support a new stadium.
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1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:
While it may not be impossible it’s looking more and more like it’s unlikely to happen. NYS and Erie county both have the money to help support the new stadium. Plus if Pegula were to move the Bills then he’d have to move the Sabres as well due to angry fans refusing to show up to the games due to the Bills moving. So infact it would cost Pegula more money and a major headache to move then it would to stay, Pegula is not taking the team anywhere else. San Diego wouldn’t even build a stadium for the chargers plus they never showed up to the games, St. Louis is done and will never get another team, Toronto can’t afford an NFL team let alone building an NFL stadium, Oakland is broke and is a dump of a city, they’re most likely to never get another NFL team again like St Louis. So there’s really no where else for the Bills to go. The relocation talk was nothing more than empty threats
Relocation is not an empty threat, in the past decade . . . .
Chargers moved to LA
Rams moved to LA
Raiders moved to Vegas
There are larger and more economically viable markets for an NFL team than Buffalo.
What I am urging is for all of us to support NY State to provide partial funding similar to what they did for NY metro teams for a new stadium. This is an investment in the Western NY community for an asset that has tangible value.
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If the NFL was starting from scratch there would be 0% chance Buffalo would be awarded a franchise. I think we can all agree on that.
Our only hope is that the state/local/NFL/Pegulas agree on a new stadium deal that keeps team here for next 30+ years. Absent a new stadium, the team will not stay in Buffalo. The NFL will put immense pressure on the Pegulas to relocate the team and/or sell it. That is the reality of the NFL today. Even with a new stadium and enhanced revenue, Buffalo will pale in comparison to larger cities and their communities deeper wallets, but, they will be competitive enough to survive.
I'm not suggesting this is right, I actually think it isn't, but, the NFL and other sports leagues are driving revenue / profits and franchise values.
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Austin was never an option, Jerry Jones would not let that happen. He believes Cowboys own Texas (exc Houston area) as their "home" turf.
Buffalo (the community) deserves to get state funding, consistent with what the state provided NYC area for new stadiums/arenas for Mets, Nets, Yankees, Knicks/Rangers and Islanders. The issue is local funding, which is going to be significantly less given the economic health of the region.
The other cities that could try and "poach" the Bills, I'd keep my eye on San Diego and St. Louis, maybe San Antonio (before Austin) and Portland. This is a real possibility if there is not a stadium deal. The NFL does not care about fan loyalty (nor do other sports leagues). Decisions are based on economics, not emotion.
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Definitely an embarrassment, but, to each his own, as long as they are only hurting themselves and the tables.
I don't like how the media has run with the table narrative and is using it to mock instead of focusing on the simple passion ALL Bills fans have.
Let's face it the table crashers represent <1% of Bills fans.
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Davis is in Hall (Class of 2017).
As for trips, I think fact that NFL has gone pass happy, you more apt to need to stud WR/TE's then a stud RB
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10 minutes ago, Commonsense said:
Embezzlement and skimming off the top or whatever you are going on about is a bit sloppy unless you have some further knowledge of the situation. Don’t yah think
"Going on about ?" ---
No, I'm repeating what was reported that this was more than just inappropriate relationships -- who knows what it means, but, keep that head in the sand and keep defending
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7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Just a note that in the corporations I'm aware of, for an executive to have one consensual relationship with one subordinate would indeed be grounds for termination under their terms of employment. The reason, as previously noted, would be that an assymmetrical power relationship is held to cloud consent (from a legal POV). That's why companies explicitly prohibit this and provide their "people managers" training saying "don't do this, here's why"
I have no information as to the quantity or quality of RB's misbehavior or whether he is a predator.
No doubt, there is and should be zero tolerance regardless of company.
But, let's not put our heads in the sand here because there isn't several videos or a parade of women coming forward, where there is smoke there is fire and many on this board, including Russ apologist Kirby Jackson have all but admitted as much. And let's not forget the reporting has said more than just inappropriate relationships, this could get into embezzlement or some other business crime. Again, no proof, but a lot of smoke
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2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:
As I've said here many times, I am open to the possibility that Russ Brandon is a serial abuser and is guilty of grossly inappropriate conduct at work, which would justify him being forced out. I truly am.
If that's what happened, it would be justified.
My point here, is that we don't know, and yet there is a rush to vilify.
We don't know definitively, but ardent RB supporters have essentially confirmed he's a bad guy and there is no way he is forced to resign for one consensual relationship. Extrapolation seems fair in this case. He is a predator and deserves no admiration
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18 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:
Gee no. I was going by Kim's account. I didn't just make that stuff up.
I will indeed. But what victims? All we got is one supposed relationship here. What is the real story do you know?
Ask some of the ardent Brandon supporters to spill the beans, I wish they would instead of protecting him.
He didn't resign because of one consensual relationship. The reporting has confirmed "multiple" and "issues" beyond the relationships.
If you want to say he had one consensual relationship and we can prove that, then I'm over-reacting, but, sorry, I'm not that naive.
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The issue is Russ. He is a predator. He is a harasser and he got caught. Even Kirby, one of RB's biggest apologist admits to this.
All of you defenders trying to distract from this core argument by bringing up TP and KP is a joke.
Like a couple other posters have mentioned, he should have been dismissed due to being incompetent, but, either way, the toxin has been eradicated.
Pray for his victims and please, stop making excuses for him.
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This is a great day for Buffalo
There is some justice to Russ' victims, yes, victims. Make no mistake, what Russ did was sexual harassment. The men who pull that **** deserve what they get, and, yes, justice is to be celebrated, even if it ruins his life. He doesn't deserve our pity, his victims deserve our sympathy.
Secondarily, it rids these organizations of the so-called marketing genius, who self-promoted himself into football positions that led to crap decision after crap decision. One of the most overrated executives in history, not to mention an arrogant prick.
And, please, can we stop the "how well respected he is in football circles" and "how he single handily saved the franchise from financial ruin" --- give me a !@#$ing break.
This is the same guy who was responsible for "selling" our home games to Toronto, imagine if that worked the way he wanted, we might be the Toronto Bills. The same guy high fiving in the draft room after one of the worst draft day trades when we traded to draft Watkins. The same guy who made sure the Pegulas "got their man", good ole Rex Ryan and his **** show. The same who used a mid 1st round pick to draft EJ. The same guy . . . fill in the blank, we can fill pages of his bad decisions.
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Seriously ? Being a Pats fan shows he has some intelligence, who in their right mind would be a Bills fan unless they were born into it based on the last 20 years of ineptitude ?
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Healthy, for one game, I'd take Gronk, however, at this point in their careers, I'd take OBJ.
Gronk is by far the best TE in the game and one of, if not the most difficult matchups in the NFL, while OBJ is great, he isn't that much different than many of the top 10 WR's and doesn't change the O gameplan the same way Gronk does
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I look at it like Pro-Bills and Pro-Winning.
Pro-Bills folks put their emphasis on loving the Bills in their current incarnation at all times, virtually no matter what. Pro-Winning put their emphasis on the Bills winning even if it would mean major change to the current incarnation.
Do the Pro-Bills group want to see them win, of course, but they put more emphasis on their love for the team. Do the Pro-Winning people love the Bills, of course, but they put more emphasis on seeing them become a winner.
I've largely steered clear of this forum because of the extreme positions so many hold. But I love this post, I think it captures the two largest parts of the fan spectrum.
(BTW: disagree with the OP post but love the topic)
My only add would be that I think it's a continuum that stretches past these two very logical points into some extreme positions that people voice on this forum at times. Where the Pro-winning crowd go off into a very pessimistic and dark place and hate every decision the Bills make and where the Pro-Bills crowd become milk toast kool aid drinkers and love everything
For me, I am definitely in the Pro-winning, but still love the Bills category.
I do find myself at times being too pessimistic, when I do, I just stay away (which I largely have the past 2 years).
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That's really backwards thinking.
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Kyler Murray Contract
in The Stadium Wall
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With cap, it all comes down to which teams get the most value per dollar with all their players.
Arizona was in a tough situation (I think Ravens are, too), in that they had a QB that hasn't proven he can "rise to the occasion" when it matters most. What someone should do is rank the QB contracts based on value per dollar. Ultimately that is the way to construct a roster. Bad contracts can kill.
I was originally concerned (end of Josh's year 2), that they'd be forced to overpay, clearly not the case.
I think Dallas overpaid Prescott.