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Yeah he hasn't been healthy, thats the problem. There is no way in hell that we would trade our best defensive lineman with huge potential plus a fourth (are you serious?) for a 29 year old LT coming off an injury that made him miss a year. If anything it would be Williams for Brown and a 3rd.
HAHAHAHAHA
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Seattle wants CJ Spiller and Derrick Morgan. They take CJ Spiller at #6, and Seattle has a second pick this year at #14. Seattle knows they need to get ahead of Jacksonville at #10. The Bills oblige by switching picks in Round 1 and take Seattle's #14 pick along with their #60 pick.
The resulting draft gives the Bills Trent Williams LT at the #14, and a second pick in RD2.
14 Buffalo Trent Williams LT Oklahoma
41 Buffalo Terrence Cody NT Alabama
60 Buffalo Koa Misi OLB34 Utah
72 Buffalo Jason Fox RT Miami
107 Buffalo Linval Joseph DE34 East Carolina
140 Buffalo Rahim Alem OLB34 LSU
178 Buffalo Shay Hodge WRF Mississippi
192 Buffalo Tony Washington OT Abilene Christian
209 Buffalo Chris Scott OT Tennessee
216 Buffalo Freddie Barnes WRF Bowling Green
linval joseph a 3-4 end? that's hilarious. hes 6'4" and almost 330 lbs. hes a true NT! he isnt athletic enough to play a five technique! you're a bills rep for a draft site and don't know something so simple? wow
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I know they have to be athletic, but so do the 4-3 DEs. What do you think there are more of on earth - athletic 250lb guys or athletic 270 lb guys?
3 or 4 times more than the number of 4-3 DEs that put the fear of God in me.
No one can step on the field with LT, he was/is the best ever
4-3 teams use big NTs to. See Pat Williams and Sam Adams.
actually sam adams was acquired in 2003 when dick lebeau was here as def coordinator and adams played the nose in his 3-4 (primarily), but you're right, they did have both williams and adams on the field at the same time, but having those two was an exceptional situation. no question, 3-4 nose tackles can play in either scheme, but the 4-3 DT guys are the more athletic ones, and are usually preferred in the 4-3 (ie. 2010 draft prospects suh, mccooy). NT's are big space eaters, with multiple gap responsibility and occupy as many blockers as possible, allowing the 4 linebackers to cover/attack, whatever their job on a particular play. i can assure you, guys like dan williams, mt. cody and cam thomas may be "good athletes," relative to their size (all 6'2"+ and over 325+ lbs), they are not built to attack/stunt the way guys like warren sapp, tommie harris or even suh and mccoy do. check sack stats, the numbers probably back it up (i think so, i haven't checked to be honest). dan williams, cam thomas and mt. cody are all huge through the trunk, they don't have a very athletic build, even for a big man.
and you're right, LT is the best pass-rushing OLB ever - 6'3" 237 lbs
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Dan Williams = a 4-3 DT trapped in a 304 DE's body. I'd MUCH rather have Owens or Cam Thomas later in the draft.
My worst nightmare is taking Dan Williams #9. Which means it's likely to happen /cry
owens is 6'1" 304 and projects the same way kyle williams does, a 3-4/4-3 tweener from a DE/NT standpoint, much the same way luis castilla does in SD, and will be a late second - late third round pick. he's a better 4-3 DT or 3-4 DE. Dan williams, is 6'2" 327 and projects as a true 3-4 NT, especially considering his massive trunk, a build similar to casey hampton. cam thomas does project as an early-mid second round NT, but owens will not be manning the 3-4 NT spot at 304 lbs. your comparison of Dan Williams = a 4-3 DT trapped in a 304 DE's body would actually be more accurate if you swapped dan williams for jeff owens.
dan williams will probably be reached for by somone, maybe our bills, but with half of the league now employing a 3-4, there is now a premium placed on guys that can play a true NT spot, and their value will continue to rise. dan williams and john mccargo are nothing alike, not from their position played to their strength/weakness, to their build, nothing.
i like cam thomas a lot, saw him dominate against mike iupati during senior bowl week, and iupati is supposed to be the best/nastiest guard (potential tackle) in the draft.
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Interesting. I've read atleast 5 different sites. I've never seen him get crushed so hard. Those dudes really don't like him.
You're right its all opinion but when you have a lot of football people talk good about a guy. There is usually a reason.
As far as the Bills drafting a QB my opinion is 1.) Don't draft any QB. We have enough "projects" on the roster.
2.) If any QB out of this sorry lot is going to be drafted by the Bills I like the highlight tape and what I watched of him during the GMAC Bowl Game* and the senior bowl. I would be OK with taking him at 3.09. If its 2.09 I won't be psyched but that would mean more of commitment to the organization to this kid.
3.) If any other QB is taken in any other round it would be a mistake. Not alot of talent and 1.09 for Clausen is waaaay too early.
But like you said its just opinions.
* BTW if you ever get a chance to watch the 2010 GMAC game it was freaking awesome 2OT thriller. Tons of points all around. You will be entertained and you can watch the kid yourself.
i read a ton as well, and i consistently see bradford, clausen, mccoy, skelton, jarrett brown, tony pike, jevan snead and tim tebow rated in front of him. a pass happy scheme, similar to the one tebow ran, where the offense lines up in shotgun (of course) and the coach signals the plays in from the sidelines doesnt allow for a solid translation of those skills to the NFL. he never lined up under center, took a pre-snap read on the defense and got the team out of bad plays into good one, made sight adjustments with the WR's, etc. coaches did all of that for him throughout his college career. combine these with the fact that he has been inaccurate throughout the pre-draft process and you have a third-fifth round prospect. im not saying he wont be drafted early, im saying if he is its a reach. hes a project player at best.
http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=1588
"Opinions are mixed on the throwing workout of quarterback Dan LeFevour. His short and intermediate passes were solid but LeFevour struggled throwing the ball downfield. Receivers were slowing up in their routes to catch the ball and in some instances out-running LeFevours deep passes altogether. One of the participants told us LeFevour had been throwing the ball well in the practices leading up to the pro-day workout and may have been a little to pumped up once the lights went on for pro-day."
i personally like him, in the 4th or 5th round, i think he does a lot of what tebow does, but is more of a natural quarterback, needs to learn the footwork/mechanics of being under center, and probably needs work breaking down def's, going through his reads, etc
**additional word from his pro day is that he chose to throw to very few moving targets, a fact that was not lost amongst scouts in attendance**
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Actually if you read the scouting reports and not just assume that he went to Central Michigan so then he must be 3rd round or later and be a project QB, you'll see that almost everyone has him graded mid 2nd right now. Its not likely he will be there at 3.09.
If he does well at pro day he moves up and 2.09 makes sense. If he sucks at Pro Day - then your BS statement will end up being true through dumb luck.
Here are two reports from a few respected sites so you can actually do some research instead of making up nonsense.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...0&genpos=QB
http://www.nfldraft101.com/profiles/79972/Dan_LeFevour.jsp
Draft Projection: Second
Overall Rank: 51
NFL Draft Position (Rank): Quarterback (3)
Strengths
* Athletic quarterback who has flown under the radar at Central Michigan
* Excellent intangibles and a true competitor who maximizes his talent
* Accurate passer who throws a very catchable ball
* Displays poise in the pocket - Above average awareness
* More patient than he is given credit for. Has good football intelligence
* Passed for 3,000 yards and rushed for 1,000 yards in the same season in 2007
* A passer who can run not a runner who can pass
* Excellent mobility
* Measured a legitimate 6'3 at the Senior Bowl alleviating height concerns
* Good mechanics
* Had a good week at the Senior Bowl - showed an ability to make drops and better than expected arm strength
Weaknesses
* Arm strength is solid but far from a cannon
* Spread QB who will need to learn to take snaps from center.
* Needs to improve his footwork
* Must prove he can make reads in a pro style offense
* Not a true pocket passer - May not fit all schemes
* Needs to have strong workouts to answer his skeptics - strong showing at the Senior Bowl was a good start
wow good point, here's another respected site:
http://draftinsider.net/rankings
*10th rated quarterback
*6th round prospect
*Overrated signal caller with marginal throwing mechanics and intangibles. Passes with an inconsistent motion, does not throw tight spirals and usually has receivers waiting on the ball. Sensational athlete but needs a lot of work on his throwing mechanics.
you can find anything said about any of these guys. mcshay hates clausen and says he'll fall out for first round. its all someones opinion, not "research"
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and mcnabb has missed 24 games, since becoming full-time starter, averaging out to roughly 3 games per year
he has been relatively healyth, recently, but still has averaged missing 2-3 games/year since taking over as a full-time starter. to even consider moving the 9th or 40th pick for him is delusional. he's 33 and plays an average of 13-14 games a year for you? no thanks. a franchise, particularly one that hasn't been to the playoffs in ten years, needs to hit on early picks and have those players contribute for the next ten years. to offer up either slot for a guy that has, at best, three productive years left is dumb. he may play until he's 39, but he'll only be productive until 36-37. this bills team isn't going anywhere this year, regardless of the quarterback. i bet nix is going to turn over 60% or more of the roster, and to do that quickly and effectively, the way it appears tuna has done in miami. get a young guy through the draft (skelton? mccoy? jarrett brown?) whomever you like and let him sit and learn for a bit. we will see about chan's ability to grrom qb's, and he'll get to pick his own. his wagon will be hitched to the qb he selects, assuming he picks him in rounds 1-3. dick/trent, volume II? lets hope not.
if we were to trade for kolb, whom the philadelphia enquirer reports the price tag has dropped as well, i may consider a second round selection. at 25, he has flashed incredible ability, but made some bad throws, as expected from a young qb. he scares me a bit, like rob johnson did, but a trade of #40 and maybe whitner for kolb would interest me, but i dount that would interest the eagles. certainly, one could justify #41 and whitner for kolb over any of these potential mcnabb scenarios.
i'd offer whitner and a 4th or 5th for mcnabb, and i would still draft a guy in rounds 1-3. philly wouldn't consider that either.
just wait around an grab whichever one of the three gets cut, reid knows he cant carry all three into the season, and his insinuation that he can is simply lip-service and smokescreens to maintain what little leverage the franchise has with vick/mcnabb. i really doubt kolb is going anywhere!
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and mcnabb has missed 24 games, since becoming full-time starter, averaging out to roughly 3 games per year
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anyone who thinks an aging, diminishing quarterback is worth a first round pick, especially #9 is crazy. i wouldn't offer more than a third rounder for him. why would you want to bring mcnabb in here and waste the 2-3 remaining years of production he has left (if healthy, of course) on a re building team? then when your team is ready to win, after 2-3 strong drafts, you're reverting back to a young, inexperienced quarterback, which would hinder the teams progress. i hope they build the team the rght way, through the draft, and are competitive for years to come, not just a couple years. now here's hoping ralph is around to see the transformation!
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well hold on there cowboy, if we took spiller and got a 3rd or better for lynch it wouldnt be so bad now would it?
a third round or better for lynch, hahaha, thats funny...please, be realistic
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If we can get Torry Holt for a good price why wouldnt we at least take a look at him. No one really wants him so its realistic to think we can get him for a good price. I know he is old and not as fast as he was but he has proved he can get open and would be a great leader on this team not only being a vetern but maybe he would be a great teacher for Stevie Johnson and James Hardy. If he shares his knowledge of the game and work habits with Hardy and Johnson, and they still cant produce we will know that we need to look elsewhere.
A 1 yr 8-9 million dollar deal for his help on and off the field would benefit everyone. IMO
Thoughts?
$8-9M?? - try $3-4M
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NO CHANCE PHIL TAYLOR IS AVAILABLE TO US IN R2 - NONE