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Or perhaps the owner finally decides to do the right thing. Save your PC crap for someone else.
32k posts??? Being labeled a PC is the least of your worries.
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Fair enough, and a good starting point.
I believe that if the Native American community were to effectively argue that the term, while having a benign origin, is nonetheless rooted in racism, negative stereotyping, and even genocide, that a name change would rise above the level of mere political correctness. I do believe that is the underlying point behind the NCAI ad.
I completely agree. The Native American community needs to keep the peddle down on this issue if its truly important to them. They also need to be the face of the issue. I can't speak for every citizen but the more i see congress, political commentators, & lawyers out in front of this issue i roll my eyes.
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I asked this question of another poster (who was unwilling to answer), who seemed to hold a similar view in this debate: What level of negative connotation would "redskin" have to possess before a name change became a question of common decency, and not of political correctness?
I would argue that "redskin" be proven negative in connotation before we discuss a name change. The fact that the word "red" sits next "skin" in a nickname doesn't prove it to be negative. The history of the term is under debate. So that fails to prove it negative in connotation.
Hopefully this is intellectual enough for 26cornerblitz.
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You think the movement to get the named changed began in 2014?
Do you think it started in 1930?
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You could probably find testimonials for Al Jolson from the 50's too. Doesn't make it right in 2014.
Thank god for 2014. The year PC's woke up and realized a billion dollar entity has a nickname that contains the word 'Red' next to the word 'Skin'. Lets shake this issue silly until an overwhelming majority just says "F it......just change it".
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I had seen a bunch of Redskins programs from the 50's on ebay a few months back. They did a series in which they honored native american heroes in their programs. I can't find any good examples of where you can read the passage but here is an example of the cover.
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Nothing new about trademarks being subject to decency standards. The suit was brought decades before with the football team prevailing on a technicality.
Technicality? Sounds vague
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There is of course a different avenue to explore for Snyder. I suppose that besides just giving to native american causes, if he truly believes the name is not derogatory, he could run an educational campaign to explain its history and build up the name as positive. I read here, so forgive me if it is not true, that the name was a sign of respect in its original meaning, if true, a great educational campaign may promote native americans and associate the name in a positive light.
This would be an outstanding move on Snyders part. There seems to be two histories of the name being told. One that it is racist. One that it is a sign of respect.
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I don't believe that anybody has argued its legality-- only its decency.
We'll see what the USPTO has to say very soon.
Massaging the 1st amendment over the name of a football team is a slippery slope.
Meanwhile Al Qaeda is marching towards Baghdad. I guess my priorities must be mixed up.
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you see quickly the argument twisted into, you have to look at the intent of daniel snyder and assume the best, while looking at the intent of those unhappy with the name and assuming the worst.
generally speaking im guessing most of the people that dont particularly want to see the name changed are well intentioned.... but man, the arguments from a lot of the highly vocal ones are rough around the edges.
IMO the edges on this argument are smooth as ice in favor of keeping the name. Naming your football team the Redskins is 100% legal. Its a free persons decision to keep the name. Its a free persons decision to patronize a team with the name. Its a pretty clear cut edge.
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Snyder should change the name to Rojoskins. Then battle it out w/ the PC's for round 2.
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The NCIA should really put its money where its mouth is by convincing its members to stop watching/supporting the NFL. My guess is they know most american indians aren't willing to take it that far.
It is also quite comical that the two indian nations speaking out about the Redskins name are located in California and New York. Both states where commercial casinos are prohibited. Both states with liberal back bones. There is a lot to gain politically by turning up the heat on a questionable entity like the nfl.
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Its smack dab in the middle of nowhere
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Imagine headlines on the day ownership changed hands.
Now imagine headlines if Donald Trump purchased the team. He brings a huge marketing advantage.
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The Redskins were named to honor their coach at the time. The coach was Lone Star Dietz who was an American Sioux. They may have had a few indian players at the time as well. We act as if American Indians are more oppressed now than they were in the 1930's.
This question gets asked over and over but WHAT has changed where all of a sudden Redskins is cemented as a slur. (Insert your ridiculous answers here)
Here is the truth. It has the word skin and a color next to it so in the eyes of the left the name must be derogatory. Are we that stupid as a society? Especially when polls exist that say 90% of native americans support the name!! More sunburned caucasians would be offended by the name.
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It would have been a non story if he was drafted by the Redskins.
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Yeah! It's called always open.
Throw a a big long corner on him or a safety over the top and he's done in the NFL.
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One trick pony
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Don't worry; James Hardly 2.0 from Texas A&M will be available at 9.
Hardy is exactly who Evans reminds me of.
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Got to have a corner in first 3 rds.
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Hes a slime ball
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Richie Incognito is a bully!!
Winning in the NFL is a lot harder than dealing with some teamates childish garbage. If this roster can't deal with
Incognito then they won't be winning many games anyway.
I say bring the "bully" aboard.
US Patent Office cancels Redskins trademark
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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ESPN Sportsnation online poll
Should the redskins change their name?
Yes- 37%
No- 63%
(Total Votes: 128,530 )
All 50 states favored 'No'.
New York voted 58% 'No'.
Oregon voted 52% 'No'. -Left leaning state
South Carolina voted 72% 'No'. -Right leaning state
International Poll Total Votes: 36,820
Yes- 37%
No- 63%