Billy in 4C
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This is Assuming that the draft was held tomorrow and no ones performance changed. As far as who is the best its no contest Bradord. He would have been drafted 1st overall if he came out a year early like he should have.
Agreed. Not sure what Bradford was thinking after seeing Stafford's contract...
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The OL guys will be fine. The draft will come down to whether Maybin and Byrd busts or become legitimate starters. Everyone else is either unproven or a big risk because of a position change - if we can get anything out of those guys besides special teams it is a bonus. Nelson is the wild card - they need to find a way to get him some reps., but it might be in a flanker/split end/WR role. I'm not sure he can be an everydown TE down the line.
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Such an easy answer, how can the NFL allow its players to conduct Illegal activities, they cant. Do I care if they smoke? That is not my decision
It's not allowing it - it's just not testing for it. Then the government decides what to do if you're caught, like anything else illegal.
A few other thoughts:
I absolutely could care less what the players do as long as it doesn't get them suspended or isn't morally wrong (ex. Vick). I don't feel that weed is morally wrong. Take the suspended issue off the table and I could care less. I can see the NFL's point, however, because the players ARE role models, whether they should be or not. Testing for it would most likely deter some of the would-be smokers and try to preserve the game as "family friendly".
It reminds me of the NBA dress code. They had to implement that because they were losing a core audience of 35-55 year old white males who couldn't relate to Allen Iverson showing up a press conferences with his hat sideways and a possee. By lessening the pot issue, they can expand and retain their exisiting fan base and most importantly the corporate sponsors. As much as I don't like the rule, it makes sense.
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That makes soon to be free agent Ashton Yabouty expendible
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They have the safeties out of wack - Ko (millions) Simpson over Scott? Apparently, they stopped watching in 2007. Not sure how they rated the offensive lineman - after all, Butler was one of our best the last two seasons and Levitre is ahead of him having never played a down in the league.
Anyone know how the Leodis and Roscoe are rated as returners?
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What I find odd is why did our receiving corp blow last year, yet this year all these quality guys are "buried" on the depth chart.
Good call. It's because it's the offseason and right now everyone is 'sweet', until of course the rude awakening we face on the Monday Night Football opener.
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Tim - have you heard what Pisa Tinosamoa signed for? Any terms of the 1 year deal? Do you know what the Bills' offer looked like? Thanks for your help.
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I guess the fat tub of sh-- ran out of money, so he is finally motivated.
Perfect. That pretty much sums up his career
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JP is a 28 year old Political Science graduate from Tulane University living in a Buffalo economy. Where else is he going to earn anything close to a million dollars doing anything other than holding a clipboard. All logic points to him playing - if he doesn't he's a dumb f**k.
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Constantly in trouble with the law, will probably be permanently ousted from the league on his next offense, lazy, apathetic, bad hands, hasn't lived up to even 20% of his upside after 5 years...
What could possibly go wrong?
That's like half the players on the team
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The no huddle? What a joke. No team in NFL history ran a full time no huddle offense better then the Buffalo Bills from 1990-1996. In fact, I have to imagine that no other team in NFL history ever ran a full time no huddle offense for even 1 full season....ever. (I could be wrong, but I've never heard of another one doing it more then just as a change of pace.)
Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts run a no-huddle for the majority of their offense. They call their plays at the line of scrimmage. By the way, they've won a superbowl.
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But honestly, who the heck enters OTAs with more DBs than you can keep?
Every team in the league.
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yup. that is correct. good luck convincing that to all these bills fans who are 'sign anyone you can' hungry. he is not even worth the 3 million he was due to receive with the Rams based on his difference making ability.
that is why he was REALLY cut from the Rams. not the whole "he is not big enough for our system" crap. of course the rams and his agent are going to play the P.C. game, that is how business works.
does everyone really think the the Rams brass was going to come out and say, "well, he just wasnt playing up to the 3 mill we are about to pay him. so he has to go". hardly ever do teams say what they mean.........
it would be nice to have him-but he is an upgrade, NOT a savior
You don't need elite players to win - just ask the Patriots. He's not a savior, but adding 1-2 plays per game over Ellison could make a pretty dramatic difference over the course of a season. It's a game of inches - it's the subtle differences that makes or breaks a season. Don't pay the guy pro-bowl money, but offer him a moderate salary with incentives and let him win the job. The Bills are probably the best place for this guy to step in and start right away - so there should be some mutual interest.
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To the OP:
Play considerably better than he did before his injury. He should start by not dropping so many passes.
Catch the balls that are thrown to him
Fight for balls that are thrown to him.
Run less like Frankenstein.
Ask me again when he knows how to run an NFL route.
To PREVENT being labeled as a bust in the FUTURE, he needs to establish himself as a red zone threat - that is reason #1 why he was drafted.
can;t tell if he can run an NFL route since he can not get off the line of scrimmage or identify a blitz or any other skill needed to be a WR but he is tall so he must be good
first thing he needs to do is run more like a WR then a TE
More aggressiveness in going after the ball.He looked like a limpwrist last year.
These are just wallers comments from page one of your thread. I don't have a clear cut definition of 'BUST', but I think this is pretty close.. I don't have faith in his ability to completely changehis game to authenticate his high draft position. IMO, references to Moulds and other WR's who weren't game breakers in their rookie season, don't apply here as they at least possessed the skills many here believe aren't even in Hardy's repertoire. I think his shining play last year @ Jax was more luck in his foot position, than planned effort.
Add one more... we drafted him because he was big and could box out like a center/power forward in basketball (his favorite sport). However, every time we tossed the ball to him one-on-one with a 5' 9" corner, he couldn't get position to use his height to his advantage. He is extremely raw and does not allow his size to be a strength - his size seems to impair his coordination. For Hardy, that is step #1.
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1-2 plays per game better could equal 1-2 more victories. Even one extra third down stop, red zone stop or turnover per game over the course of the season could dramatically change the Bills season.
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Man, TO might totally mess up this cohesive team of superstars and role-players we've put together over the past five years, denying us a chance to extend our playoff run by one more year.
Awesome - well said. Because one of these days, without adding any more talent, DJ will all of a sudden figure out how to win and the Bills will make the playoffs... the media's logic.
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As I've mentioned many times before because of current tax laws Ralph would be an idiot to sell the team before he dies.
How do you figure? We are in a historically low tax environment. Ralph can pass the team to his wife tax-free, but chooses not to because he doesn't want her to run the team. If he sells now, he is selling at long term capital gains which is 15%. With Barry Obama in office, they project 25-28% minimum capital gains tax rate once the economy shakes out, costing Ralph on the 10-13% minimum the value of the Bills if he waits.
If Ralph truly wanted to pass the Bills franchise (not the value) down to his daughters he would have bought hundreds of millions of dollars in survivorship life insurance to pay for the 45% estate tax burden when the last spouse dies. He knows that - after all he owns an insurance company.
Also, SKOOBY - as far as BMWs go - just shut it. I own a new 5-series. It's a great car but it doesn't mean you know diddly about football or any inside information. I'm not saying you do or don't but just leave the BMWs/Mercedes talk out of it.
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The most obviously dumb post of the past month deserves a simple and even more obvious response.
Owens is using this year as his "good behavior" year to earn a contract with a championship contender next year. Owens despite whatever he may say or do on the field this year has no long-term interest of being a member of the Bills. Sorry! That's a fact.
Owens is only interested in himself, his stats and in playing for a major media market that fawns all over him.
It is for this reason and many other obvious reasons Owens is only on a one year contract.
Owens can't be good long-term because his behavior won't allow it. He won't understand and respect Buffalo as a team because he has proven three (3) times in San Francisco, Philadelphia, and in Dallas that his only concerns are calling his quarterback gay in San Francisco, throwing his quarterback under the bus in Philadelphia, and popping pills and throwing a temper tantrum that his quarterback in Dallas doesn't throw him the ball enough when he drops too many passes any way.
Of course, Buffalo will be better this year on offense because of Owens unique skill-set and playmaking ability. But Owens is just a hired gun for a year while Buffalo finds out if Hardy or Johnson can become a #2 receiver. If they can, then great for Buffalo. If they can't, Owens will leave Buffalo and a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a receiver in the 2010 draft.
Owens will be nothing more than a talented receiver who is putting in time for free agency next year.
The only "Savior" role Owens will play is he will make Buffalo a relevant football team for the media circus. He will help sell extra tickets and a lot of jerseys because his is an exciting/controversial topic. (Think Alex Rodriguez, Dennis Rodman, Mike Tyson, etc.)
Otherwise, let's leave the Savior role to the actual Savior found in the New Testament.
Ralph Wilson will be happy and Buffalo fans will be treated to a more exciting team that will finish no better than 8-8 barring some major injury to a key player on one of Buffalo's AFC East opponents.
This is why Owens is and only will be on a one-year sabbatical with Buffalo.
Nothing else can be added or refuted to this conversation. Close the topic!
--Nightcrawler
This topic absolutely needs to be discussed. What does 2010 look like for the WR core with TO off the roster?
The Bills are back to square one unless you see Hardy/Johnson as a legit #2, which is far from proven.
So the decision comes down to - do you put something in place now assuming a best case scenario with TO's behavior/production or do you hope he will want to re-sign with the Bills coming off a best case scenario year? I think it would be important to understand the impact of the decision. First, can the Bills receive compensation picks when he leaves. If so, what are we looking at? Second, if the Bills wanted to keep TO after the season, is the franchise tag on the table? If so, what does that figure look like? If that is $10-12 million and the Bills can't get compensatory picks, then looking at adding a one-year extension at 8-9 million, non-guaranteed, protects you that you might lose the best #2 receiving option available next year (or be forced to spend a high draft pick on an unproven WR). If you wanted to franchise him next year it would end up costing you more than locking him up now. It also protects you if he busts because you can cut him at season's end and not owe him on any 2010 money.
How can a scenario like this not be explored again?
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Easy - All 5 safeties on the roster are UFAs in the next 2 years. Three this year, two next. Add in Whitner's issues and we are taking the top available defensive back. If the Bills consider Jenkins a safety, as some do, then it is Jenkins. Maybe CB Vontae Davis. I wouldn't be suprised if they take the top pure safety, William Moore from Missouri.
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I just don't see the use in trading a guy who averages 16 yards every time he touches the ball, changes the way opposing teams gameplan and is a legit threat to score on every punt return.
I assume it would mean putting Jackson on returns - and that guy (if he shows up) is gonna already be carrying the ball 20 times a guy for the first three weeks. So who would return?
Agreed. The NFL's best teams have playmakers. Roscoe is one of the only members of the team who is a playmaking threat. This Bills team for whatever reason seems to get injured more than the league average - so if Josh Reed goes down, who plays slot? Johnson? Evans? TO? Hardy? None of those guys are slot players and the Bills don't have a TE on the roster who can catch over the middle. Plus what happens next season when TO is gone, Roscoe is hypothetically off the roster, and Hardy proves to be a bust. That leaves the Bills with no Z receiver, as Evans and Reed are Y and X? Again, assuming Hardy sucks.
Also, the Bills are not very deep at CB and RB (1st 3 weeks at least). Do we really want 1st teamers - Freddy and Leodis back there on every return? Look what happened to Hester when he became an every down player.
Who is the best QB in next years draft.
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I like Tebow too, worst case - he can be a valuble backup and a student of the game. I couldn't object with picking a guy like him to be on the roster. He will make a team better whether he is on the field or not.