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Yea. Lee Evans sucks, and wouldn't be better than practice squad for other teams. T.O. is such a stud. Look at the numbers he put up with our QB's. ....
... Oh wait, T.O. had the worst year in his career. Could it possibly be that our QB's couldn't get the receivers the ball??????
Jerry Rice in his prime would be booed out of Buffalo, if he was on this team.
Receivers can only make a catch if thrown to by the QB. QB can only throw a good pass if he is not on his back, or running for his life.
So, receivers are not completely to blame, and neither is the QB. As a team, they stunk. Let's not mess with receivers and running backs right now. we need to strengthen from the line on out.
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Bell cannot play RT. He was very good against speed pass rushers trying to go wide, but usually performed poorly when the rush came the inside position. He could not handle bull rushers at all, and was weak as a run blocker.
Bell needs to stay at LT, either starting or as a backup.
I think we should just draft the best OT available, and play him on the side that best suites him. In fact, I think our RT prospects are poorer than our LT currently.
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It is just a Colts blog but I thought that Polian was universally declared as a GM guru who did not draft any busts?The recent woes of the o-line in short yardage, and in running yardage period, have not been the result of a philosophy. Whenandwere working up front, the Colts were able to run the football with tremendous results.The issue with the current o-line is that Polian has busted two high round picks:and. Both players suck, and when you spend back-to-back second round picks in consecutive years on crappy talent, it is going to hurt your o-line.The key is not to bring in "bigger" guys. The key is for Polian to draft guys who "do not suck." Remember, Glenn and Meadows were not drafted by Bill Polian. Former VP of Football Operations Bill Tobin took those guys in 1997, the year before Polian was hired.
That's all a lie. Bill Polian and anyone else named Bill (except Bills) don't make mistakes.
Buffalo is the only team that make personnel mistakes, as I am told on this board.
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NFL Mock draft 2010
Buffalo Bills
Round
#1 –Anthony Davis –OT Rutgers 6-6 –325lbs.
#2- Cam Thomas- NT North Carolina 6-4 331 lbs.
#3-Jason Fox –OT/OL Miami 6-6 314 lbs.
#4- Ciron Black –OL LSU -6-5 331 lbs.
#5- Vincent Oghobaase DT Duke 6-5 301 lbs.
#6A -Chris Degeare OG Wake Forest 6-4 326 lbs.
#6B- Marcus Easley WR- Connecticut 6-4 212 lbs.
#7A-Josh Hall ILB – Penn State 6-3 236 lbs.
#7B- Alex Daniels DE – Cincinnati 6-2 269lbs.
This would build a solid base for the future of this organization, Of cousre their are still many pieces that need to be filled through Free agancy and UFA. First, build the lines & your team can play competive ball- The QB can't make plays while lying on the ground....Please send feedback: 9- picks total w/o trades.
I like think this draft would be a success.
Only thing I would change would be #7B - Michael Smith RB - N. Carolina State 5-9 180 lbs 4.37-40
We could use a change of pace, very fast RB, that can also be a good returner. We can then get rid of Parish.
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So we trade Lee Evans for a 3rd, maybe 2nd round pick. Then, everyone would be b1tching that we traded away another of our best player. We could also trade away Poz and Byrd. Why not trade them while they have value. Evans may not be the greatest ever, but who the heck is going to help the qb?
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Owens- Id rather see Johnson, hardy, bust there a** than an aging superstar play half a**ed, Maybe low ball him an offer and see if anyone really wants him out there.
Ryan Denny- May provide some decent depth to LDE in the 3-4
Josh Reed - was a decent slot when we knew what a passing game was
Stupar- not bad TE depth, Pre- season allstar
Brian Scott - not a bad SS, we most likelyneed him
Keith Ellison- not sure he f,its the 3-4, hopefully he is one so we dont have the possibility of him starting again
Jonathan Scott- he got some experiance last year, it was sometimes an ugly experiance. surely we can do better
Schouman- might be an odd man out at TE
youboty- If hes happy competing for the Dimeback spot sure
kendell Simmons- tuff call hes had some bad injuries but he can still play a good backup when healthy
Chris draft - a good mid season signing to our depleted roster, Im not positive hes played in the 3-4 if he has sure where going to need some help
Seth Mckinny- old and fragile
Incognito I would like to see Incognito resigned, I know he is a head case, maybe him being cut by the Rams was a wake up call I didnt think he was to out of control when he got here. Hes not great but hes not bad either. With Woods leg the RG spot may be a question mark, If wood loses some mobility IMO it would be best to slide him to center (His College pos.) and slide Butler back to RG and have him and Incognito compete for the starting Role. Butler is to Fragile to be relied on at RT, He and Incognito would be a good competition, If Brad wins and gets hurt Richie slides in If Richie starts and becomes a head case sit him and Brad comes in, Hartgarner can play LG and C and would provide some good depth, behind wood and Levitre. Meredith and Bell compete for RT still a big hole at LT thats not going away over night. Jauron really ambushed this unit last offseason- it cant get that ugly again.
Owens - Hardy and Johnson needs a chance to play
Ryan Denny - don't care
Keith Ellison - good backup
Josh Reed - if he stays, needs to be strictly slot receiver
Stupar - crowded position, can he still be on Practice team?
Schouman - if he is healthy, can compete for start
youboty - he would be a good dime and backup at corners
kendell simmons - not healthy
Chris Draft - bye bye
McKinney - needs to retire
Incognito - compete for starting spot at guard and center
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Free Agency:
* NT (starter and rotation) Ryan Pickett
* starting OLB (Scott Fujita or Angelo Crowel)
* DE (starter and rotation) not much available for UFA
* backup RB
* OT (competition at LT) Mark Tauscher
* OG (depth)
* QB (competition) David Carr or Kyle Orton
Draft:
rounds 1 - 3: LT, QB, NT, DE, OLB
mid rounds: DE, OLB, ILB, QB, T
late rounds: RB, WR, G, DB, DT, QB
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If we trade Schobel, as some suggested here, I bet you many people would be blasting the Bills for trading him away when we don't have a proven pass-rusher to take his place. Remember Peters? People wanted him traded, me included. Then a lot of people on this message board started blasting them for trading Peter, without having a proven LT to replace him.
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I think they keep him as a pass rushing specialist - meaning he only plays on obvious passing downs and will most likely rush the passer on 95% of those plays. They will probably move him around a bit (from side to side) and also play a few four man fronts so he can rush with his hand down. They will not ask him to defend the run in obvious running situations and will probably only ask him to cover a flat in a zone blitz type situation. I do think he will be able to cover the short area, since he did a lot of that under Williams when we played a zone blitz almost exclusively.
I think the move to a 3-4 is to help disguise things better, but the overall philosophy of the defense (i.e. 1 gap) will stay the same. They will probably try to incorporate more 2 gap principles as they get the players to do so. I could see the defense trying to create matchups while rushing, so I expect all pass rushers to be moved around a bit.
If the new coaches want to, and can do as you wrote, I'd be ecstatic. I would love for them to be this creative with the personnel we currently have, plus a few new pickups.
We wouldn't have to scrap all our front 7 players since they don't fit into the traditional 3-4 style. Instead of spending the next 3 years re-tooling the defense, we may be able to do it in 1 year.
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31 other teams could have had Aaron Schobel. all the teams could have had Jarius Byrd numerous times.
Same with Jason Peters, which we got a 1st & 3rd for.
I don't pretend to think the Bills have been great at drafting, but everyone could have had anyone. If everyone knew Tom Brady was going to turn out the way he did, he would have been the 1st pick in the draft. Instead, 31 other teams could have had him many times over.
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I say take the next best player on the board, other than db, wr, or rb.
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I would like to see if David Carr can have a Kerry Collins or even Todd Collins turn around. He has been learning behind Eli Manning, and that should be good for him. Maybe, he has learned and matured enough to be a good QB. I would like it if the Bills gave him a shot.
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In the 3 years at Buffalo, Trent had 3 different offensive coordinators. That is a good way to stunt a qb's progression.
He has had 2 completely different o-lines, including numerous blind-side protectors. He took so many hits, which caused so many injuries. Our o-line would have shortened Brett Favre's career by many years.
I don't know if Trent could have been a very good qb for us, for a long time, but the team has really messed him up. He would have to have his confidence rebuilt from the ground up, like a rookie.
Hopefully, he will get his chance again to start somewhere.
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Actually, I do like the Bills and have for a long time.
Ok, the Bills are great!
Better than New England!!
Happy now?
I am glad you finally see the error of you ways. Now, go out and spread the word my brother.
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I can see I am wasting my time trying to have a discussion with someone who seems to have a strong dislike for the Bills.
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You're kidding, right?
In that case, who woul you take from the Patriots draft class in 2006 and 2007, to play for the Bills, besides Brandon Meriweather?
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He doesn't?
My dog has won as many Super Bowls as Marv Levy.
Btw, the 2006 and 2007 Bills drafts SUCKED.
Look at it.
We were comparing draft picks, the role of a GM.
Whitner is not a probowler, but a steady player. also can play almost any DB positions.
Youboty has the talent, but is injury prone.
Williams is an excellent player for the Bills.
Butler is a very good RG and RT.
Ellison, we have such a hard time replacing him.
Not too bad. That is just 2006.
2007: Lynch gave us a very good 2 years, and just needs to get his head on straight.
Posluszny is a solid LB and still getting better.
Edwards was supposed to be, and should have been the team's backup QB.
Wendling is a special teams monster.
Schouman is a good backup tight end.
Some people just want to look at the glass as half empty.
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Lets compare to Buffalo, just for kicks.
2007 - Buffalo Bills
Rd Sel # Player Position current team
1 12 Marshawn Lynch RB Buff
2 34 Paul Posluszny MLB Buff
3 92 Trent Edwards QB Buff
4 111 Dwayne Wright RB no team
6 184 John Wendling DB Buff
7 222 Derek Schouman FB Buff
7 239 C.J. Ah You DE St. L
2006 - Buffalo Bills
Rd Sel # Player Position current team
1 8 Donte Whitner SS Buff
1 26 John McCargo DT Buff
3 70 Ashton Youboty CB Buff
4 105 Ko Simpson FS Det
5 134 Kyle Williams DT Buff
5 143 Brad Butler T Buff
6 178 Keith Ellison OLB Buff
7 216 Terrance Pennington T no team
7 248 Aaron Merz G no team
Out of 16 players drafted in 2006 & 2007,
11 are currently still on the team, and
8 players went into the season as starters.
Levy doesn't sound too much of a dunce in player evaluation if you compare him to Belicheck and Pioli.
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Take a look at 2 years of drafting by the Patriots, which Pioli was involved in:
007 - New England Patriots
Rd Sel # Player Position current team
1 24 Brandon Meriweather NE
4 127 Kareem Brown DT Tenn
5 171 Clint Oldenburg T Was
6 180 Justin Rogers LB KC
6 202 Mike Richardson DB KC
6 208 Justise Hairston RB Buff
6 209 Corey Hilliard OT Det
7 211 Oscar Lua LB no team
7 247 Mike Elgin G no team
2006 - New England Patriots
Rd Sel # Player Position current team
1 21 Laurence Maroney RB NE
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Den
3 86 David Thomas TE NO
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Minn
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K NE
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T KC
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Jax
6 205 Dan Stevenson G no team
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Den
7 229 Willie Andrews CB no team
How many are starters, and how many are still on the team?
Out of 19 players drafted in 2006 & 2007,
Only 3 are still on the team, and
Only 2 are starters (1 happens to be a kicker!)
Some drafting geniuses.
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OFFENSE:
QB: McNabb or Vick (we would be giving up a 1st at least for this)No way to Vick, another project that will fail. #1 pick or Brohm or Carr.[/color]
TE1: Shawn Nelson Derick Shoumann
TE2: Stupar Shawn Nelson
RB: Fred Jackson
WR1: Lee Evans
WR2: Golden Tate (2nd round pick) James Hardy
SLOT WR: Steve Johnson
LT: Anthony Davis (1st round pick) or Demetrius Bell
LG: Eric Wood
C: Geoff Hangman
RG: Andy Levitre
RT: Brad Butler
FB: McIntyre
DEFENSE:
CB1: McGee
CB2: Florence McKelvin
Nickel: McKelvin Florence
Dime: Corner
DE: Kyle Williams (assuming Schobel retires) Schobel or Maybin
DE: Chris Kelsay
NT: Marcus Stroud
DT: Kyle Williams
SAM LB: Keith Ellison No way. Free agent pickup
WILL LB: Kawika Mitchell
JACK LB: Aaron Maybin (Hybrid LB/DE)
MIKE LB: Poz
SS: Donte Whitner / George Wilson
FS: Jairus Byrd
ST:
K: Lindell
P: Moorman
That's Much better
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You don't think he's shell shocked enough?
As the saying goes, if you get knocked off your horse, you get back on your horse.
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Lets be reasonable here. For the last few weeks, a few assistant coaches have turned down the Bills head-coaching postition. Let me send a message to all of them. Here goes...
I can understand that guys like Cowher and Shannahan turning us down. I understand that the future of the franchise is up in the air. I understand guys like the two mentioned above don't want to tarnish THEIR winning legacies by coming here. I also understand you assistants have playoff games you are preparing for. I further understand that the weather sucks in Buffalo, the stadium is old, the market is small and the team you could inherit is lousy, dreadful, hideous and woeful.
But reasonably, are you the ones losing out in the long term? You're turning down the opportunity to:
1.) Make significantly more money.
2.) Make a name for YOURSELF
3.) In the process, make a better life for your family by doing #1 and #2, yourself.
Fine, we get it. The Buffalo job is the worst in the NFL. hahaha, we get it, we suck. Nobody else needs to turn us down for us to realize that. We've known it for ten years. But what we are, even though we're a "small-market". We are a very proud, dedicated fan base. We can live with losing, alot of us say at the conclusion of every year: "I'm done with this team". But the diehards, like myself, will stick with the Bills. Yeah, its an embarrassing time to be a Bills fan, but at the end of the day, we are just that. We love our Bills...even when its not our proudest era.
So, in closing. You can all continue to turn us down. But now, especially in these economic tumulutous times, don't all be jackasses. What's the worst that happens? You take a job in "NFL Hell", make a ton more money, it doesn't work out...in the end, you can go back and be a ......oh yeah....Coordinator (a wealthy-er Coordinator, too!)...
Just a thought!
Here! Here!
I totally concur. But, this is not the first and won't be the last time Buffalo gets turned down. Years ago, Marvin Lewis interview, but turned down the job because his wife didn't want to come here. Oh well.
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I am hoping we give David Carr a shot.
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Bottom line he should have sold years ago. His EGO is what keeps him hanging on and it !@#$s bills fans
Yea. He should have sold it a long time ago, and then the new owners move the team to LA. They would have no allegiance to western NY, and no long history like Wilson. That would have been so great if he sold the team while he was in his 70's, and the Kelly era could have happened in another city.
The sooner the team leaves his possession, the sooner the team will leave Buffalo. The new owners aren't going to be happy with the small marketing money to be made here.
There are over 70 cities that are larger than Buffalo, and could garner them more money.
Lee Evans
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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If we can get a starting caliber WR in FA and a draft pick, maybe worth it. But how many starting WR are available that we would be paying less than we pay for Evans in 2010.
Also, draft pick in which round would we get for a receiver that is old, cant' catch more than 56 balls, and is not a starter (according to some on this board). If I was a GM, I wouldn't give anything. I could get a free-agent and pay $1 mil to get what some people claim Lee Evans is.
Truth is, Lee Evans is a lot like Eric Moulds. A very good receiver, and an decent starter, who just ended up on a bad team. If on a team like Indy, they would have been regulars at the pro-bowl.