Fingon Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 1989: 49ers, ranked # 2 1990: Giants, ranked # 22 1991: Redskins, ranked # 5 1992: Cowboys, ranked # 5 1993: Cowboys, ranked # 7 1994: 49ers, ranked # 4 1995: Cowboys, ranked # 13 1996: Packers, Ranked # 5 1997: Broncos, ranked # 9 1998: Broncos ranked # 7 1999: Rams, ranked # 1 2000: Ravens, ranked # 22 2001: Pats, ranked # 22 2002: Bucs, ranked # 15 2003: Pats, ranked # 9 2004: Pats, ranked # 11 2005: Steelers, ranked # 24 2006: Colts, ranked # 2 2007: Giants, ranked # 21 11 out of 19 are in the top 10 for passing yards, 14 out of 19 are in the top half of the league in passing yards. None are ranked below 24th. The Bills are 30th. In the words of some,you are a "fantasy football" GM if you draft offense. This clearly proves that in order to win the super bowl you have to have at least a decent passing game, and in most cases a very good one. So maybe the people bitching about how the Bills will become the Lions, if they draft a WR will shut the hell up now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 1989: 49ers, ranked # 21990: Giants, ranked # 22 1991: Redskins, ranked # 5 1992: Cowboys, ranked # 5 1993: Cowboys, ranked # 7 1994: 49ers, ranked # 4 1995: Cowboys, ranked # 13 1996: Packers, Ranked # 5 1997: Broncos, ranked # 9 1998: Broncos ranked # 7 1999: Rams, ranked # 1 2000: Ravens, ranked # 22 2001: Pats, ranked # 22 2002: Bucs, ranked # 15 2003: Pats, ranked # 9 2004: Pats, ranked # 11 2005: Steelers, ranked # 24 2006: Colts, ranked # 2 2007: Giants, ranked # 21 11 out of 19 are in the top 10 for passing yards, 14 out of 19 are in the top half of the league in passing yards. None are ranked below 24th. The Bills are 30th. In the words of some,you are a "fantasy football" GM if you draft offense. This clearly proves that in order to win the super bowl you have to have at least a decent passing game, and in most cases a very good one. So maybe the people bitching about how the Bills will become the Lions, if they draft a WR will shut the hell up now? Interesting though only 2 teams that have won the superbowl since 2000 have finished with a top 10 passing offense. Could it be do to modern day defenses, just being faster. The lack of real franchise quarterbacks. Or just more important then anything you need balance. Using your same measurables. These same teams finished in the following in rushing offense. I still say rushing offense is far more important, then passing yards. RANKING OF RUSH OFFENSE 1989: 49ers- 10th 1990: Giants- 4th 1991: Redskins- 7th 1992: Cowboys- 5th 1993: Cowboys- 2nd 1994: Niners- 6th 1995: Cowboys- 2nd 1996: Packers- 11th 1997: Broncos- 4th 1998: Broncos- 2nd 1999: Rams- 5th 2000: Ravens- 5th 2001: Pats- 13th 2002: Bucs- 27th 2003: Pats- 24th 2004: Pats- 7th 2005: Steelers- 5th 2006: Colts- 18th 2007: Giants- 7th Note:14 of the 19 teams finished in top 10 in rush offense. Only 3 of these teams finished lower then 15th. 2 others just outside the top 10. Also No one will ever mistake the Bucs/Ravens as winning relating anything to do with their offensive statistics. If I had time I'd actually be more interested in looking up post season team statistics, to see where teams that won favor heavily. In Rush offense, or pass offense. I'd assume rush offense would stick out like a sore thumb. Also interesting imo to note. That of all the 42 superbowls. I believe only the 2006 colts, hold the distinction of being the only team in NFL history to win the superbowl with the leagues worst rush defense. Having a passing game is nice. It sells tickets. It sure looks pretty. It sure helps your running game. So teams don't consistently stack the line. It's way more "exciting" then grind it out, down and dirty in the trenches football. At the end of the day though. Balance is key. With a huge bias towards rush offense, and the truth that Defense wins championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Interesting though only 2 teams that have won the superbowl since 2000 have finished with a top 10 passing offense. Could it be do to modern day defenses, just being faster. The lack of real franchise quarterbacks. Or just more important then anything you need balance. Using your same measurables. These same teams finished in the following in rushing offense. I still say rushing offense is far more important, then passing yards. RANKING OF RUSH OFFENSE 1989: 49ers- 10th 1990: Giants- 4th 1991: Redskins- 7th 1992: Cowboys- 5th 1993: Cowboys- 2nd 1994: Niners- 6th 1995: Cowboys- 2nd 1996: Packers- 11th 1997: Broncos- 4th 1998: Broncos- 2nd 1999: Rams- 5th 2000: Ravens- 5th 2001: Pats- 13th 2002: Bucs- 27th 2003: Pats- 24th 2004: Pats- 7th 2005: Steelers- 5th 2006: Colts- 18th 2007: Giants- 7th Note:14 of the 19 teams finished in top 10 in rush offense. Only 3 of these teams finished lower then 15th. 2 others just outside the top 10. Also No one will ever mistake the Bucs/Ravens as winning relating anything to do with their offensive statistics. If I had time I'd actually be more interested in looking up post season team statistics, to see where teams that won favor heavily. In Rush offense, or pass offense. I'd assume rush offense would stick out like a sore thumb. Also interesting imo to note. That of all the 42 superbowls. I believe only the 2006 colts, hold the distinction of being the only team in NFL history to win the superbowl with the leagues worst rush defense. Having a passing game is nice. It sells tickets. It sure looks pretty. It sure helps your running game. So teams don't consistently stack the line. It's way more "exciting" then grind it out, down and dirty in the trenches football. At the end of the day though. Balance is key. With a huge bias towards rush offense, and the truth that Defense wins championships. In the vast majority of cases you need a good passing game to have a good running game. You also need a good passing game to score points, case in point the Titans last year. They had a very good running game but no passing game so their offense was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatPatPatSack Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Sorry I'm so lazy that I wont even run the numbers, but assuming my eyeball average is 14, that is much lower than I would have guessed. To the point where it looks like you need to have a number under 15 but after that, your passing stats are not a great predictor of Super Bowl success. Without sounding stupid, (like I would if I said the most relevant predictor is W/L percentage during the playoffs), I'd say the best predictor is the plus/minus factor. Your average game day difference between points scored and points given up. But the way to build a team is the time honored way. Find your weaknesses and eliminate them. Always be trying to make your team better. Or at least not suck in particular areas. I think the Bills' pass rush is a weakness, middle run defense, and right side run blocking. Other than when I need QB, I think I would be drafting linemen at the 1-2 position nearly every year. Heck, linemen represent nearly half the team! I hope someone does this same excercise for defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 1989: 49ers, ranked # 21990: Giants, ranked # 22 1991: Redskins, ranked # 5 1992: Cowboys, ranked # 5 1993: Cowboys, ranked # 7 1994: 49ers, ranked # 4 1995: Cowboys, ranked # 13 1996: Packers, Ranked # 5 1997: Broncos, ranked # 9 1998: Broncos ranked # 7 1999: Rams, ranked # 1 2000: Ravens, ranked # 22 2001: Pats, ranked # 22 2002: Bucs, ranked # 15 2003: Pats, ranked # 9 2004: Pats, ranked # 11 2005: Steelers, ranked # 24 2006: Colts, ranked # 2 2007: Giants, ranked # 21 11 out of 19 are in the top 10 for passing yards, 14 out of 19 are in the top half of the league in passing yards. None are ranked below 24th. The Bills are 30th. In the words of some,you are a "fantasy football" GM if you draft offense. This clearly proves that in order to win the super bowl you have to have at least a decent passing game, and in most cases a very good one. So maybe the people bitching about how the Bills will become the Lions, if they draft a WR will shut the hell up now? More important predictor of success is points per passing attempt. This correlates to the efficiency of the offense in scoring points on big plays. It's not just the yards that are piled up but the points that are scored. Teams traditional pass to score but run to control the clock and win. http://mule.he.net/~budsport/pub/ks2-feature04.php Killer Stat II's Strong Link to Winning If you want to predict divisional leaders, Points per Pass Attempt does the best job. Divisional winners, by definition, always make the playoffs. And once in the playoffs, any team can reach the Super Bowl. The graphs below show the close relationship between points per pass and winning margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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