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  1. That might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this board, and that's really saying a lot.

     

    Mighty Taco is the bomb. You're not from WNY so you can't understand.

     

    Just don't try to pass off KFC and Taco Hell as the ultimate in fast food.

     

    KFC 10 years ago maybe. Now - no way. Taco Hell also runs through most people's digestive tracts like a bullet train.

     

    BTW, Anchor Bar doesn't have the best wings. It's a touristy place. Go to Duff's for much better wings.

  2. Fellas,

     

    I am here in Buffalo with my Bills fan brother. We have been riding by these Mighty Taco locations. So we broke down and made the purchase.

     

    Jesus. What a bad freaking taco. I asked the guy at the window if the "Mighty Taco" was better than Taco Bell.

     

    Ahh, no. :rolleyes:

     

    We bought six of these things. I am conviced that they use Kaopectate in the secret sauce. We have four left so if someone wants the rest, give me a shout.

     

    :lol:

  3. when williams came here, he imposed a system and it failed. the defense became much better when they obtained the right players.

     

    as for the skins, what's this about them not having talent? shawn springs has been of the best cornerbacks in the league the last 2 seasons, and is playing like he did before the hamstring problems in seattle. he's a surefire elite player. there are a lot of other very good players on that defense as well.

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    Who said the Redskins do not have any talent on Defense?

     

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  4. Buffalo likes it hot and spicy, football that is.

     

    Last fall my brother and I took the travel trailer from the Eastern Shore of Maryland to Buffalo New York and parked that muther a mere 300 yards from that Buffalo logo plastered to "The Ralph".

     

    The day of the tailgate we warmed up some wings we bought the night before from one of the two restaurants within walking distance from the Stadium. A crew from Canada later parked next to up the day of the game as we were eating the wings and set up shop.

     

    Dude gets on top of this broken RV, sets up a chair and starts barking commands from his compatriots attending the days game. When lo and behold from his eagle perch he see the wings warming on our grill.

     

    "HEY!! Throw me one of those wings!!"

     

    "Buddy, I think he is talking to us" I say

     

    "You want us to thow it to you or what" my brother says.

     

    "Yea, and put some Bleu Cheese Dressing on it too!"

     

    "Did he just say slop one of these wings up to him with bleu cheese dressing?"

     

    "Yes, I think he did"

     

    OK fella. We threw the wing up and the dude grabbed the wing with his left hand, eats the wing and licks his hand of the evidence. And I sh-- you not, the dude say...

     

    "THAT'S A GOOOOD WAANGG"

     

    My brother and I say in unison.... "Good GOD"

     

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    So I say to you Buffalo fans, keep it real, enjoy the football no matter who coaches, and keep those wings coming. I'll see you next fall in the Coachman.

     

    Portisizzle OUT!!

  5. Now I know you're absolutely full of sh--.

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    10/11/2005, 2:35:28 PM #1

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    Buffalo fans are RAW..

    Let me just say that as a diehard Redskins fan I know what being a fan is all about. Being loud and being proud.

     

    However me and my Buffalo fan brother made a 10 hour trek to the Ralph to see the Atlanta game. My brother purchased seats in a section of the stadium called the "Rock Pile". I though it was an amusing nickname for a section of the stadium. That was until the game began.......

     

    There were dead up drunk fans with their heads in their hands. Cussing, complaining, moaning, and verbal abuse handed out like I have never seen in a professional football setting. I had my "R" hat on and the few fans in that section that cared and knew what team that represented were looking for a fight.

     

    As for fights, I have never seen a fan removed from the stands via stretcher. We I did THAT day. And at least four other fights within two sections where i was sitting.

     

    You guys are effing raw to the bone. It is almost weird in a way. I remember walking into the stadium and seeing this surreal picture of your mascot. It was this kinda glowing blue buffalo. Later in pregame, he is dragging a mock Atlanta player around the field and doing somersaults on him. Jesus Christ Superstar!!!

     

    I saw a father hurling unshelled peanuts at his daughter because she would not sit down in her seat. I am pretty sure you get what I am saying.

     

    But I did represent you guys well during the game. Some Dallas fan showed up with a jersey on and was running his mouth about two superbowls, yada yada. I jumped up with my Redskin hat and yelled at his "Who is my B word now?? Who is my B word??"

     

    Anyhow, kudo's to your fans. We need that kind of intimidation factor working at Fed Ex. If you know what I mean.

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    "Rock-pile! Rock-pile! Rock-pile!"

     

    We're a rowdy bunch.... I think I saw that Dallas fan too one section over.

     

     

     

     

    Did you see the stabbing? The Rockpile loves fights.

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  6. Lurker and Back in da day,

     

    I leave with the door hitting me in the ass with one final post. This is what cynical fans and the media were saying days after Joe Gibbs was brought back to Washington. I daresay the similarity to the tone of this article with the current undertow of Buffalo sentiment will be familiar.

     

    Plus I couln't help it, there is an O.J. reference in the article.

     

    1)As far as being a troll. I am sorry you see it that way considering I am in many ways supporting your team and the decisions they are making. Where am I tearing down the organization or the team for personal pleasure?

     

    2) I am not here to tell you Buffalo fans of four decades how to act. That being said, I saw a Falcon fan leave the Ralph on a stretcher from knife wounds just two section over. And there is no way you can discount the fact that their is a negativity that permenates that stadium unlike any I have ever witnessed. Finally, was not being condescending to you personally, just questioning a legitimate obsevation at a football game.

     

     

    By Len Pasquarelli

    ESPN.com

     

    As the O.J. Simpson trial demonstrated, once they add the bronze to the statue and spit-polish the bust, it's difficult indeed to get booted out of the Hall of Fame.

     

     

    Lucky thing for Joe Gibbs.

     

     

    While a jury acquitted Simpson, there's no way Gibbs isn't guilty of at least dubious judgment, and he'd do well to plead nolo cotendere to charges he has taken leave of his senses. Makes you wonder if Gibbs, 11 seasons removed from the NFL sideline, has inhaled too many fumes while standing behind his fleet of NASCAR entries.

     

     

    The first reaction upon hearing that Gibbs has accepted the proposal of Redskins owner Dan Snyder was to wonder if the coach had suffered what heretofore will be known as a Britney Spears Moment. The second was to consider that, if he really wanted to coach again so badly, Gibbs could have inherited the Atlanta Falcons, a team in which he was a minority shareholder. The third was, well, to wish Gibbs good luck.

     

     

    Because he is going to need it in industrial barrel-sized measures.

     

     

    Make no mistake, just because Gibbs knows more about restrictor plates than he does running backs right now, his pride and work ethic will allow him to play catch up. Still, there will be days when Gibbs might confuse Patrick Ramsey, his quarterback, with a quarter-turn on some wing-nut that controls downforce.

     

     

    Closing the knowledge void won't be as easy as Tony Stewart trying to make up a lap after having a flawed right front tire blister up on him. The learning curve gap that Gibbs faces could be every bit as treacherous as the third turn at Talladaga. Clearly, the great coach has been able, however, to mentally rationalize away all the negatives.

     

     

    Then again, once you've been engaged in an undertaking where you huckster off every inch of the product for more sponsor's decals, it's apparently not quite as hard to auction your soul to the devil, as Gibbs has done.

     

     

    Gibbs retired after the 1992 season, a three-time Super Bowl champion, a man at the top of his profession. That 1992 date is significant because it means that Gibbs never worked under the restraints of a salary cap and never had to deal with free agency as we know it now. It is meaningful, too, because 11 seasons is a lifetime in the NFL, as Gibbs will soon find out, and the players have changed.

     

     

    Notice, we didn't say the game has changed that much because, as Dick Vermeil demonstrated after returning from a 15-season hiatus and Bill Parcells keeps proving in his various reincarnations, the same principles that he taught in his first coaching life still apply. His game-planning and preparation brilliance aside, though, Gibbs will discover that, if he tells LaVar Arrington to not free-lance so much, the results won't be the same as they were with, say, Monte Coleman.

     

     

    The Redskins are a team who, scouts will tell you, has enough quality personnel. But just because there's a guy named Champ on the roster doesn't mean Washington is going to a Super Bowl anytime soon. And bringing back venerable assistant coach Joe Bugel won't guarantee that the guy who tutored The Hogs can make a silk purse from an offensive line unit that in 2003 had all the movement skills of bumps on logs. Led the past two years by a man who loved to refer to himself as The Ol' Ball Coach, the Redskins are now shepherded by a man who is old, hasn't been a coach in over a decade, and may not fully understand how ball is played in millennium.

     

     

    And then, of course, there is the matter of ownership. Some credit to Snyder, who began the courtship of Gibbs on New Year's Eve at a tiny airfield in Concord, N.C. When we got an anonymous tip that Redskins One was parked there -- sorry, Dan, it's a private yet and not a Stealth bomber -- team officials responded to the query by insisting the imperial owner was "on business."

     

     

    Yep, monkey business, with one of The Daniel's minority partners, a buddy of Gibbs for many years, brokering the deal. All the posturing afterwards -- the trip to the West Coast, the interviews with three other candidates, questioning media acquaintances about what the best age is for a head coach -- was little more than diversion. Long before Tuesday, when word began to leak that the Redskins little man was up to something big, we all should have seen the light.

     

     

    The Daniel, after all, is a product of the Beltway Mentality. He frets far too much about buying success than developing it, obsesses about how he is perceived, covets the lineage of his franchise instead of figuring out a new world way for inventing his own heritage. He surrounds himself with links to the Redskins past, counseling with old school types, instead of trying to uplink to the future.

     

     

    Build through the draft? Why bother when you can open the coffers and buy a bunch of veterans? Actually hire a coach who can grow with your franchise? C'mon, this is all about a big name guy coaching bigger-name players. Marty Schottenheimer. Steve Spurrier. And now Joe Gibbs.

     

     

    For years, Gibbs worked under the notoriously meddlesome Jack Kent Cooke, so maybe he thinks he is prepared to have an owner peering over his shoulder. Jack Kent Cooke might soon look like an absentee owner to Gibbs, though, given what awaits him. Good thing for Gibbs he's got a history, after all these years in NASCAR, of working the pits.

     

     

    People in the business like to refer to Arizona as the elephant burial grounds for head coaching careers. Well, now Gibbs is headed into the Beltway Vortex, and here's hoping he has thought this thing out.

     

     

    Maybe we'll be wrong about this but, for the heck of it, here's a bet: Three years from now, the guy who accepted the Redskins job as a Hall of Fame member will be viewed as just another ordinary Joe.

     

     

    Len Pasquarelli is a senior writer for ESPN.com

     

     

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  7. Guess what.  I'm even more worried now.  What this tells me is that if Gibbs hadn't reentered the picture, the Skins would still be bumbling around like when Danny boy was playing GM.  You get a HOF coach back in the picture, and shazam...

     

    I do not want Dick having the final say over anything, other than "do you want the 16 ounce size or the commemorative mug?"

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    Not suprisingly, you missed the point.

     

    Cerrato and Snyder were widely criticized by local media for their decision making process. They thought Snyder had too much control in the decision making process.

     

    The process if you read throughly is that the GM, owner, Head Coach, Assistants all have a role in the development of the franchise.

     

    The fact that Gibbs has the final say demonstrates the respect that most teams have for the head coach. We are no different than your team in that respect. Gibbs = Levy except Gibbs has a clipboard and stands on the sidelines. Do you know who actually calls the plays in the Redskins offense?

     

    I say that knowing in advance that you do not respect Levy's ability.

  8. Because our owner cannot set a course and stick to it.

    His lack of vision and commitment permeates through the ranks of GM and HC.

     

    If  Donahoe and Mularkey had a proper plan in place for '05 which included an O led by a virtual rookie, to be supported by a strong D and STs, they abandoned it after 4 weeks.  I'm not going to rehash the why for you, but suffice it to say that either a plan was abandoned, or none existed. 

     

    There has never been a strong commitment or sense of urgency from our owner to build a solid team.  Abysmal seasons brought him more talented rookies than he knew what to do with.  Luckily he had a GM in the late 80's with a clue. Marv stepped into quite a nice situation. All he had to do was keep the talent from killing each other. But in the end, it was Marv's lack of strong game-planning skills, specifically defensively, which cost us SB titles.

     

    As far as Wilson goes, it was his impatience that cost Williams his first coaching staff, as it would have cost Mularkey his. Maybe one day Mularkey will be able to face Tom Clements, now that he's gone from this freak show.

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    There were many in Washington that said the same thing about Dan Snyder. That was until Joe Gibbs came to the scene.

     

    Ralph Wilson is not as open minded as Dan Snyder? Will Wilson allow Levy to do his job? He should and he will.

     

    Just for the record, I was at the game that turned your season around for the worse. It was the Atlanta home matchup. Your team lost TKO. You leader on defense and in many ways your team leader period. For whatever reason that loss permeated throughout the organization and fan base.

     

    I would add that at that game I was amazed by the negativity displayed by the fans in the stadium. My brother and I were sitting in the "Rock Pile" which was crazy enough. But the stadium was full of boos and negative comments.

     

    Maybe it is you fan base that is never satisfied with a decision that is made that is the problem. You have an owner who is trying to do things to create positive momentum in light of fan reaction but the fans are not having any of it.

     

    Face it, even if Losman was the next coming of Peyton Manning, your fan base would not have the patience to allow it to develop.

     

    I have phrase that would apply to the average Buffalo Bills fan sufficiently.

     

    "Lighten up, Francis."

  9. Why don't you take a vote of Redskins nation and see how many of your fellow fans think Joe Gibbs was immaterial to the team's success at any point in his coaching career.  That it was all about player personnel and high character and good coordinators, and the HC just was a delegator and mouthpiece?

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    I missed this part of your post.

     

     

    Why not take a vote where fans admit that Joe Gibbs was immaterial to the teams success?

     

    wow. just wow. :D

     

    What is your point?

  10. So, the Insider is totally wrong.

     

    Funkyalligator

     

    How is it that every year the "media" tells the world that the Redskins will be in cap hell, but yet it never comes about...Do they not understand the basics behind the cap or is the cap as difficult to understand as the tax system?

     

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    It's about planning and it's about budgeting. It's about knowing what you can and can't do. The thing that we have an advantage of over most teams is that cash creates cap. Our owner allows us to spend cash which creates cap room. What we do historically is we give big signing bonuses and then small Paragraph 5s, which makes the cap number smaller, which allows you to have more players.

     

    When you see these big signing bonuses they are spread out over seven years. What we've learned over the years is not to overpay older guys. If you'll notice all the guys we're paying larger signing bonuses to are young guys who can play out the contract so their cap burns off every year.

     

    In a situation like Coles, which is not normal, we took a big cap hit, but by getting Chris Samuels done it allowed us to take his whole hit this year. After this year we have zero left of Laveranues' cap. We're taking over a $9 million cap hit this year, but after this season we have no more cap room of Laveraneus.

     

    We weren't allowed to do certain things because of this. It limited some of the things we could and couldn't do, but it was all planned and budgeted out.

     

     

     

    Follow question

     

    On the Coles situation, you say it was planned and budgeted out. It wasn't planned last year, so it was planned at some point this year in the offseason. Was this something you guys knew was going to happen in early January, or after you started evaluating players?

     

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    I think it started out in early January after the season. We were just weighing options of what we could and couldn't do and what our options were on the salary cap, if we could or couldn't do anything. Then we came up with a game plan, "All right if we do this, then we can do that. Or if we do this then we have to do (something else)."

     

    We evaluated every option that was out there. We decided that this was best for the Redskins, the option that we took, because the player had value. So we got some value in return for Laveranues leaving.

     

     

     

     

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  11. Let's get back on point.  We're talking about the HC here, not the GM.  How many games did your GM win you this year? 

     

    Why don't you take a vote of Redskins nation and see how many of your fellow fans think Joe Gibbs was immaterial to the team's success at any point in his coaching career.  That it was all about player personnel and high character and good coordinators, and the HC just was a delegator and mouthpiece?

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    Vinny Cerrato? How many games did he win us this year.....hmmmmm. How about if I let him tell you and you decide....

     

    Warning long post.

     

    Vinny Cerrato Chat

     

    From ExtremeSkins Staff

     

    One of the areas fans are often unclear about is the Redskins' current process for determining team needs and then carrying out subsequent talent evaluation. We know that the process involves Coach Gibbs and his staff), you and your scouting staff, and Dan Snyder. Can you talk about the current arrangement, and/or perhaps walk us through the process that netted C Casey Rabach as an example?

     

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    It'd probably be easier to take you through the Rabach signing.

     

    We have three pro scouts that grade every player on every team. Come the middle of January, once the season's over, we'll sit down and have a meeting just with the Pro Scouts. We will come up with a list of guys they've graded that are graded high enough that they feel are better than what we have and can improve our football team. We take that list then and give it to each position coach.

     

    Say there are 10 offensive linemen for Joe Bugel to watch. There might be five tight ends. So each coach is getting a certain amount of players. They will take that list and they will grade all those players and put them in a ranking order. They take a week to 10 days to do that.

     

    Then we will get together as all the Pro Scouts and -- if it's an offensive position -- all the offensive coaches along with Coach Gibbs. We will sit in a room and the first thing we will do is the Pro Scout will read his report and talk about the guy's background and everything. Then the coach will read his report. Then we'll watch the tape. We'll watch about three or four game tapes on every guy. When we get done watching the tape we write a report, a Redskin report. We go around the room asking everyone their opinion, write the report and come up with a Redskin grade.

     

    We will do that with each guy. Say there's five guys. We'll watch all five. After we watch the second one (we ask) do we like the second one better than the first and we put them in a ranking order. Then when we're done with that position we take our players who are on our football team and put them in that ranking.

     

    So, say, that we're at a position where all of our players are better than anybody in free agency, of course we're not going to try to sign anybody. But if there's a position, say we were looking at centers, and there were three guys better than anybody we have, so we know we can upgrade if we sign one of these guys.

     

    We do that with every position and it takes about two weeks.

     

     

     

    Follow question

     

    Then you can't possibly be a yes man because you can't beat the boss......

     

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    The thing about it is the way things are done here is everybody is involved. When we do the draft and when we do free agency, it's not me. It's not my list. It's not my guy that we're picking. It's the Redskins guy.

     

    Like I said before, we sit down as a whole group and grade these players. On our draft card on our top guys there are probably six grades (from different personnel people or coaches) so it's all cumulative when we talk about these players. When we sit in a room and we write a Redskin report, I'm filling out the report as we're talking through the guy about his strengths and his weaknesses.

     

    What I do is I go to the coordinator or the head coach (and ask) in my summary on the report, "How does this guy fit into our team? What does he do for us?" Then we will rank the player. It is not any one person's list.

     

    I'm not a yes man for the owner. What my job is, is to basically have everything organized to make it easy for everybody to have the right names, to make sure that everybody gets a say so on everybody that we talk about.

     

     

    Follow question

     

    ESPN Insider wrote the other day how teams come about their decisions. One of the things written was that pretty much was that Dan and you are the overriding people making decisions, so if Joe Gibbs wanted a player, he'd really have to sell you on it, and if he couldn't sell you on it, you guys would say yes or no. Or does Joe Gibbs have the final say? Or does Dan Snyder have the final say?

     

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    That's totally false.

     

    The coach has the final say. We'll go through the whole process. We'll put everybody in an order. Then it will come down to the coach saying this is what I need or this is what I don't need.

     

    Dan takes no say so in the player moves. He gives it all to Coach Gibbs. We all work together to come up with an answer and then the coach makes the final call. Like he says, somebody has to make the final call. He does.

     

    He takes all the information and the thing that he does that's great is we go over it and over it and he asks everybody's opinion and everybody's opinion counts, from the trainers, to the strength coaches, to the scouts, to everybody.

     

    He wants every opinion, every bit of information, then we'll make a good decision and he'll make the final call.

     

    So, the Insider is totally wrong.

  12. Look up coach Mouse Davis if you'ld like an explanation of the 'Run & Shoot'.

    The K-Gun run by Kelly was'nt a R&S O.  Formations via motion, and pass patterns called from pre-snap reads enabled that O.  The R&S places pre-snap read responsibilities on the receivers as well, demanding their reads and the QB's are the same.  Kevin Gilbride installed aspects of the R&S into William's O when he came on board.

     

    As far as Williams '46' D goes, while at Tennessee I think he had Blaine Bishop at SS to bring up.  In Buffalo, Lawyer Milloy was brought in to fill that role.  In Washington, he's got Taylor.  Like another poster said - his D begins with the SS (and a DE who can raise hell). His Quality Control days under Jack Pardee took him to DC under Buddy Ryan disciple Jeff Fisher's Titans, to HC and back to DC.

     

    The old Q&C kid has a system for making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches! 

    So believe what you want, but this guy fits players into his system.  It's a successful D system, and with the HC, GM and owner onboard he's making it work.

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    And so why can't the same thing happen in Buffalo that is happening in Washington?

  13. but his experience as a HC does not AUTOMATICALLY translate to success in his new role.

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    Quoted and amended for emphasis.

     

    And my question. What GM hire would translate into "immediate" success.

     

    My opinion is there is no such thing.

     

    Great leaders will be great leaders. The #1 Characteristic of a great leader is someone who surrounds himself / herself with great people.

     

    Are you ready to question Levy in his decisionmaking without so much as listening to the press conference. Are you people THAT cynical in upstate New York?

  14. So you think RW is going to open up his wallet and pay $$$ for some more talented assistants?    Good Lord, we're doomed.

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    I admit, we have a boat load of "chiefs" on our team. I don't think it was all that expensive once you get past Williams, Saunders, Gibbs. Who knows.

     

     

    Just curious, do you think Losman is ready to be a NFL QB? Is he your future?

  15. No problem with that.  But I'll take Joe Gibbs over ML any day of the week.  HC, GM, Nascar owner, dog catcher.

     

    Marv's got a very limited (to nonexistent) track record of stocking a team from a player personnel standpoint and now we have a one-year-wonder of a HC (with a dubious track record for picking coordinators) and you think the Bills situation is remotely akin to the Skins situation? 

     

    And don't forget Danny-boy and his fat checkbook vis-a-vis RW and his Prozac and laxatives.  Man, I just think you're still star struck from having a good season in DC after a dry spell.  Let's see how Grego's D looks next year after the league has a year to get ready for it.

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    Well, I am not going to argue with your logic here. Gibbs is a HOF coach who won three rings with three separate QB's.

     

    However, can you think of a HC that went to four straight Superbowls? No. And give or take a few plays in two of those four games and you would not be so hard of Levy.

     

    Levy is a great leader. You do not give him enough credit.

  16. Welcome, Portisizzle.

     

    I too live in Redskins country and am very impressed by the job that GW has done as your DC. However with that said, there is a difference between being a fine coordinator and a great head coach. Much of that comes down to personality and the ability to delegate, which I've always felt were the reasons why GW was a failure as the Bills' head coach. That doesn't mean that he can't be another Belichick and learn from his first go-round.

     

    However, even in Washington, he plays the bad cop to Joe Gibbs' good cop, which has always been a pattern for Gibbs. In that way, Gibbs has always managed to somewhat distance himself from the dirty work, while allowing his assistants to handle that for him. Meanwhile, Gibbs himself is so strong at the PR game, that he normally deflects criticism well. (Think about the Arrington dealings early this season -- as well as the Portis situation in preseason.) This showcases Gibbs' delegation skills, but it doesn't always set his assistants up to succeed. For example, as successful as Gibbs has been, he never really had any proteges follow in his footsteps.

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    Food for thought regarding this post. We had the chance to chat with Gregg William as well. Here is a question that goes to your assertion.

     

    Gregg Williams Chat

     

     

    From bpoch

     

    What have you been able to learn from Coach Gibbs that you feel can help you when you decide to become a head coach again?

     

    Gregg Williams:

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    The top thing I’ve learned is to make sure that I surround myself with quality people, and them being able to handle things that you can’t handle yourself. More specifically, like having a coach be in charge administratively of things that I don’t want to do which would take me away from actually coaching the players. I desperately want to always be involved with coaching the players – I think I am pretty decent at doing that. As a head coach the first time around, I wasn’t able to do that as much as I would have liked. He’s hired enough staff and enough help to make sure that he is still involved in day-to-day coaching duties and that is what I’ll do the next time too.

  17. Despite the fact that Kelly's offense looked a lot like a sandlot team, "Marv's" offensive team of the 90s thrived in old Teddy's "system."  Too bad Walt Corey didn't have a system (o.k., a good system) or we might have a few SB banners hanging at the Ralph.

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    Kelly's run and shoot offense took advantage of defenses who had never saw anything like it. No way does this mean it was not organized. :D

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    Come on, Marv.  Now you're just being silly.

     

    Coaches win games on game day, not rookie GMs.  We need better players, no question about it.  But I can't believe a long-time Skins fan can make an arument that talented coaching just doesn't matter.

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    IMO? You just need better offensive line play (so my brother says) and you need to allow J.P. to play some football without someone looking over his shoulder.

     

     

    And you guys seem to be mixing up the term "talented coaching" with "system". Do you know what the difference is? Because I do not see how you can make that statement to me and at the same time have read what I wrote......

  19. Check back to us after Gibbs retires and Grego's your new head man.  We'll keep the lights on for you.

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    You mean when Al Saunders in in full swing in our offense, Williams has three - four years with one team, and Gibbs is running our front office like Levy is doing now??

     

    Suggestion for you, if I may?

     

    Keep up you end of the bargain and let Levy do his job and we can have lunch before we both meet in the Superbowl.

     

    K? :D

  20. :D

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    You are just hooked up on the fact that we have few all pros on the defense and with that fact you assume we have a bunch of chumps that are playing great under just this system.

     

    Your thoughts about what makes a great player is different than what Greg Williams thinks is a great player. Who is wrong.

     

    :lol:

  21. Unfortunately, we don't have a HOF HC coach with four SB rings to run the show while our DC does his thing right now. 

     

    DC's, even very good ones like GW, are still DC's.  We're talking about HCs here.  Look at the HCs in the playoffs this year and tell me that experience as the head man -- both in terms of longevity and track record -- doesn't count.

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    No, but you do have Marv Levy who went to an unheard of four straight Super Bowls. Why does the bling bling matter?

     

    I would argue that Joe Gibbs has been somewhat of a detriment to our offense. After two years he agrees and we hire Al Saunders.

     

    Gibbs greatest gift to this organization is bringing pride, discipline, and the players needed to the Nations Capital.

     

    Marv can, and will despite all the haters in Buffalo, bring the same results. Just because he is not on the field with a clipboard signifying does not mean he is not making "techtonic" changes to your organization.

  22. This completely undercuts your point.  The Redskins hired a guy with a great defensive track record, built off a great system.  He comes in and transforms an average defense into world beaters, not by buying talent, but by getting the players to play his "system."  Five year ago, the Redskins tried to build a defense based on talent, specifically Champ Baily and Lavar Arrington.  This past year the Skins finally got that great defense, but Baily was gone and Lavar on the bench.  The only great talent is Taylor, but if you know anything about a Gregg Williams defense, you would know that a head-hunting strong safety is the cornerstone.  So, its all about the system.

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    Wrong again,

     

    He did not transform and average defense. He rebuilt the defense from the ground up. As far as Arrington? He sat the bench because he did not have what it takes to play disciplined football. Arrington went for the Sportscenter blow up for personal glory. Williams insists upon discipline and gap assignment.

     

    So I ask you what is better 1) An All Pro explosive talent that blows people up 70% of the time SPortscenter style but misses the three runs that cost the team the game? or 2) A disciplined super smart player who understands what to do on the field.

     

    Players in Levys eyes does not equal buying a team of all pros.......

     

    No, the Redskins defense example reinforced Levys point. You get the right players and they can play in any system. The right player, BTW, is not always the superstar talented free agent.

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