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MrLocke

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  1. Couple of things...there are quite a few seasons in that list where Indy had a top 12 D, more than enough to matter.

     

    If you want to weigh defenses, you also have to way offensive efficiency hurting their defensive stats. Indy/Den scores so often and so fast, that by default their defense will be on the field a lot. And thats how stats easily have totals increased. Their defense wasn't always as bad as the stats suggested. And in many of the games where Indy was eliminated via upset, their Defense played good enough to win and it was the offense that sputtered.

     

    So, I hear this defense argument all the time when these two are compared, but for me its not a valid one for two key reasons...

     

    1. This is about Brady vs Manning...not Pats vs. Indy. Head to head, Brady has owned Manning with a 2-1 win ratio.

    2. Brady and Manning play on offense...Brady has accomplished an amazing resume offensively despite having inferior talent to Manning.

    3. Brady has a much better playoff resume, and not just in wins and losses, but in actual QB play.

    4. The defensive gap isn't as big as that stats suggest to me. Indy scored so fast and frequently, that their stats suffer, but he still had some all time greats on his defense over the years. And, Manning has only one SB win against Rex Grossman, yet he had a top 12 defense 5 times. With the offenses he had, any top 15 defense should be more than sufficient to win the SB.

    5. Brady is two fluke plays away from 5 SB rings and 4 SB MVPs. Nothing against the Giants, but it took 2 nearly impossible plays to beat the Pats those 2 years. Manning has not been good in 2 out of his 3 SB's and had many other flops, one and dones, etc for a player of his legacy and caliber.

     

    Manning is one of the greatest ever, no doubt...but give me Brady or Warner over him in the playoffs any day of the week.

     

    Sorry if my earlier post was misleading. I think were saying the same thing, though. I'm trying to say Indy's defenses weren't as bad as people seem to think because of the reasons I mentioned.

     

    Playing on carpet hurt Indy's defense.

    Playing indoor's hurt Indy's defense.

    Not playing a ball control offense hurts Indy's defense.

     

    One of the biggest myths that Manning apologists like to push is that he didn't have a defense when this is not the case. He played with Freeney, Mathis and Bob Sanders all guys who are difference makers. Sanders was a dpoy. Mathis and Freeney are both in the 100 sack club.

     

    I take Brady any day of the week! Given that the stats are even close is a miracle if you ask me. Manning had the better skill position players, he's the least sacked qb of all time and had the advantage of playing indoors. We all know about his struggles outdoors. He has to play outdoors a lot more if he's in New England.

  2. LOL.

    GM = Tom Donahoe, Stew Barber, Terry Bledsoe

    HC = Bullough

    OC = Turk Schonert, Dan Henning

    DC = Wannstedt

    STs = Crossman, Rusty Jones

     

    Offense:

     

    WR1 = Hogan, Avion Black, James Hardy, Jeremy McDaniel, Bernard Ford

    WR2 = Roosevelt, A. Brown, Haddad, Aiken, J. Armor, Da'Rick Rogers, Kamil Loud, Kwame Cavil

    LG= Jasper

    QB = Edwards, Tuel, Gary Marangi, Gilbert, Brohm, Hamdan, Van Pelt, Travis Brown

    RB = Joique Bell, J Burns, Linton, Grey, Darrick Holmes, L. Gates, Xavier Omon, Bender, Jourdain, N. Turner, K. Simonton

    FB = Mike Viti

    RG = Mike Pucillo, Ed Wang

    LT = Mike Williams, Mo Elewonibi, Jerry Crafts

    RT = Langston Walker

    TE = Schouman, Stupar

     

    Defense:

     

    WLB = Ellison

    LB = Brownlow

    SLB = Tank Carder

    OLB = Corey Moore

    LB/DE = Shawne Merriman

    RDE = Erik Flowers

    LDE = Maybin

    S = Rashad Baker, Wendling

    CB = Lankster, J. Burris, Youboty

    DT = Leif Larsen, J. Bannon, John McCan'tgo, Troup

     

    K = Kirk Roach

    P = Rick Tuten (for lack of a better one)

    KR = "punt catcher" Watson, Jonathan "Fast Freddy" Smith, Jimmy "the jet" Cunningham

     

     

     

    Yes, the scouting dept. has a keen eye for talent at that position...apparently

     

    LOL. I sometimes think where would the Bills be if they didn`t put so many of their assets into rbs and cbs. Did Shawn Bryson ever tear it up in the pre season.

  3. This one really bothers me: http://www.pro-footb...00012030buf.htm . I think I remember Wade giving a pathetic interview at the half using injuries as an excuse. Injuries are never an excuse. They happen to every team. Showed me he didn't have the attitude to be a HC. Would you ever see Parcells blaming injuries. Oh yeah getting picked apart by Jay Fiedler drove me nuts too. What a pathetic excuse he was for an NFL QB.

  4. Not going to lie. IU hated the pick at the time.I don't think he's quick enough. I see Chadler Jones, Cameron Wake and Muhammed Wilkerson dominating him. They will be to athletic for him. I hope I'm wrong, but I think this guy makes Mike Williams look highly athletics. Williams did 29 reps of 225 to Koundjioa's 21. Mike Williams was 5.3 in the forty and Kounandjyio was 5.6 I hope he truns out to be a good player, but when you're not as athletic As Mike Willimas it's not a good sign.

  5. I think this whole ss/fs difference can be thrown out the window. Used to be the strong safety was your guy who was tough against the run so-so in covergae. The FS was the center fielder great in coverage so-so against the run. The way offenses can use motion now safeties really have to be able to do both. I remember when safeties were an after thought. In today's NFL they are quite valuable!

  6. Oh yeah! I forgot too that Rob Johnson looked like a decent qb if you went by QB rating. Career QB rating of 83.6 85.5 while in Buffalo. Troy Aikman wqas 81.6 for his career.

     

    Troy Aikman is a great example of why I don't think stats tell the full story of how good a qb is. He never threw for more than 23 td passes in a season, but I don't know anyone who would say he's not great.

  7. Just curious as to how valuable people consider QB ratings to be? I got into a debate about quarterbacks with a Giants fan once. He basically said it's a sucker bet. He used Eli as an example. Had a rating of of 69.4 last season, but is considered a good qb.

     

    I also know about the obvious flaw where QBs have an incentive to take sacks as opposed to throwing the ball away. A sack doesn't hurt the rating, but an incomplete pass would. An incomplete pass doesn't move the team back whereas a sack does.

     

    Anyway just looking for some insight. Thanks.

  8. Yes! forgot about Foles! Actually had a higher qb rating than Manning last season, nut I have to agree with the people who say Aaron Rodgers! Football I always believed is more about avoiding negative plays than it is making big ones. Rodgers are at the top of one statistic I don't think gets talked about enough: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_career.htm

  9. After rookie signings, we'll only have $3-4 mil left in cap room. So if we do pick up any new bodies, they will need to be cheap cheap cheap.

     

    Do all players count against salary cap right now? I thought it was only your top 55 or somewhere around there. Either way once the season starts the roster size will go down quite abit.

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