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If Robinson falls the the Bills at #27, they would be fools to dismiss, out of hand, selecting him.
The Bills DO need a RB that can provide a dynamic running game besides Josh Allen puting himself in harm’s way with over 120 carries.
Yeah, we need a G and S and WR....BUT, a RB with the quaintly of Robinson (a top 5 talent) would provide an immediate and explosive impact to the Bills offense....that could help propel them to the Super Bowl.
NO G, or S or even WR (that the Bills have any chance of drafting) would come close to providing that kind of immediate impact.
The trouble is that he probably won’t be there at #27. But, if he is, I would be all in picking him.
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Josh is like a roller coaster. Thrills and terror one minute after the next.
I’ll take the terror when the thrills are much more abundant.
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Hodgins has had one good game. Before this weekend, he had ONE game with more than 45 receiving yards.
The Bills did not make a “big mistake” with Hodgins, they drafted him, kept him on the team despite him not being able stay healthy the first two years, and wanted to keep hm on the team when they attempted to send him back to the practice squad.
The Giants happened to be suffering several injuries with their WR’s, and, as a group, were well below average.
So, the grabbed him on waivers, after Hodgins cleared waivers several time before with no team claiming him.
At the start of the year, Hodgins was just not good enough to claim a top six spot in the WR position....which is not surprising when trying to do so on a very deep, Super Bowl contending roster.
He had no value on special teams and was just not good enough. With the Giants below average WR corps, maybe he has found a home.
With the Giants success this season, I expect them to make every effort to upgrade their WR’s. I also suspect that Hodgins will fall down the depth chart when they do that.
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On 1/8/2023 at 1:12 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
We might be in trouble if he does. Easy win if he does not.
I totally disagree. It’s irrelevant who plays at QB for Miami. Besides the fact that there are no “easy wins” in the NFL.
Nonetheless, the Bills are going to crush them.
If I were a betting man, I’d bet on the Bills covering the 10 point spread. This game could get very ugly for Miami.
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ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!
The Chiefs were handed the #1 seed that they did NOT earn.
They LOST to both Bengals AND the Bills. They LOST to the two teams, that not by anything they did, nor their lack of performance on the field, have been screwed over.
The Chiefs cannot be called the best team AFC. They lucked out on the back of Damar Hamlin’s tragedy.
If they end up winning the Super Bowl it will be forever cheapened by this.
The Bills have to show their resiliency and win the Super Bowl this year, despite all the obstacles and challenges of both the team and the community.
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1 hour ago, GolfandBills said:
Seems right to me. Patriots usually don’t get blown out and they have a lot to play for.
Ummmm. 🤔
Except when the Bills beat the everliving CRAP out of them last year to knock them out of the playoffs. It’s pretty clear that getting sent home for the year IS a “lot to play for”.
The 47-17 loss (and it was not as close as the score) was one of the worst embossments for Belichick in his career.
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21 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:
Playing DEVILS ADVOCATE. That still sticks it to the Bengals because if they had beaten you on Monday night and KC loses on Saturday they would be the #1 seed. Like you said no good way to do it. IMO they should have just stuck with the rule already on the books instead of letting their emotions get involved..
No need to play “devil’s advocate”. My post was not meant to dismiss the fact that Cincy got the shaft too.
The most equitable outcome is that the Raiders beat KC today. They almost beat them earlier in the year, when LV scored a TD to get within one point, and instead of kicking a FG for the tie, the Raiders failed in a two point conversion that would have put them ahead, 31-30....instead they lost 30-29.
IF KC gets the #1 seed this season, it will be like last year where the Titans got the #1 seed but were NOT the best team in the AFC.
KC has been flirting with losing to inferior teams for weeks now. Letting Denver back into the game after taking a 27-0 lead, and eventually barely winning, by 6 points after Russel Wilson was knocked out of the game with 12 minutes left in the 4th Q.
They barely, by the skin of their teeth, “beat” lowly Houston, in freakin’ OT when their QB inexplicably literally handed the ball to KC after KC failed to score in their first possession in OT.
Playing against terrible Denver again, at home, they played extremely sloppy BAD football, barely squeaking by with a win by only 3 points.
And now, they are almost handed the #1 seed because of freak tragedy and the cancelling of game FOR THE FIRST TIME IN NFL HISTORY, that a game started, then postponed and never resumed.
If there is ANY “football Karma” the Chiefs deserve to LOSE today. I’ll be praying that they do!!!
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The NFL had a very difficult reality in front of them. How to mitigate the inherent unfairness of two teams, very much Super Bowl contenders, with realistic chances (the Bills MUCH more than the Bengals) of earning the #1 seed, with the inability to actually do so with one less game played.
There is no way to please everyone or to make this “fair” to all teams involved. And I am not criticizing what the NFL owners agreed to. They are doing their best with a no-win situation.
I hope the Raiders do the AFC a favor and BEAT the Chiefs tomorrow. And then the Bills beat NE (like everyone knows they will) and get the #1 seed fair and square.
KC getting the #1 seed is NOT “fair and square” and if they do, it will be clear that they did NOT “earn” it.
They would have lost three games (same as the Bills) BUT...TWO of their losses are against the very teams that have had their chance to earn the same taken away by events that were unforeseen and unprecedented.
Despite all the obstacles and extreme challenges the Buffalo Bills have had to overcome this year, I suspect that they are the team of destiny, and will make this a fairy tale ending and host the Lombardi on Feb 12.
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41 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Thanks for sharing this.
From the ashes of despair they are now riding the wave of optimism and joy.
In this week’s PTF’s weekly picks, Mike Florio had this comment that rings so true....
QuoteFlorio’s take: I feel sorry for anyone who will be facing the Bills for the rest of the season.
Florio’s pick: Bills 31, Patriots 20.
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The stellar training and readiness of the Bills trainers and doctors on the filed saved this young man’s life.
What an amazing, uplifting story. And the universal outpouring of support from the whole world gives me hope for humankind.
As of this moment, Chasing M’s Foundation is up to $7,349,950.
4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:Toy fund now over $7, 340,000!
Be good this year, kids. Santa is already loading up the sleigh!
Haha. You beat me to the punch.....you posted this while I was typing.
And the total goes up every minute....now $7,353,820!!
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“Who won” is one of his first questions?!?!?!? HOLY CRAP!!!!
Damar Hamlin is a FIGHTER and a WINNER!!!!!
QuoteThe doctors treating N.F.L. safety Damar Hamlin said Thursday that he was “awake and breathing,” and was able to communicate by writing with pen and paper on Wednesday night, and asked who won the game between the Bills and Bengals where he had a cardiac arrest.
The University of Cincinnati Medical Center doctors, Timothy A. Pritts and William Knight, told reporters during a news conference on Thursday that the communication was a positive sign.
Pritts said Hamlin was moving his hands and feet, but Knight said it was “truly too early” to determine whether Hamlin might make a full recovery and perhaps return to professional football.
“We know that he’s home and that appears that all cylinders are firing within his brain,” Pritts said. “Which is greatly gratifying for all of us for the nurses and respiratory therapists and caregivers as for his family and for everybody else beyond.”
Knight and Pritts repeatedly thanked the Bills and Bengals medical staff for how quickly they provided aid to Hamlin, which they said saved his neurological function.
But, Knight said, it was too early to tell whether Hamlin would regain finer motor function and that things like cognition, motion, speech and language would need to be assessed in the future.
“While still critically ill, he has demonstrated that he appears to be neurologically intact. His lungs continue to heal and he is making steady progress,” the Bills said on Thursday morning.
Does anyone doubt that the Buffalo Bills Family are going to play their hearts out for their warrior brother!?!?!?!?
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25 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:
This guy might recreate the conditions that sent Hamlin into cardiac arrest the way he pounds himself on the chest. 😱
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What wonderful news.
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1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:
The Chiefs losing wouldn’t reduce the importance of the Bills-Bengals result. Whatever mix of results in week eighteen, there will be something riding on it.The Chief’s losing makes declaring the Bills Bengals game a tie moot (at least for Bills fans).
IF KC loses vs LV, and the Bills win vs NE, they get the #1 seed.
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4 hours ago, Success said:
So, if we didn't get the win against Cincy - we'd have no week off at any point, even if we made the SB. If I'm reading that right.
What we tend to forget is that Bills played only 9 minutes on Monday night. This is their week off. And if they get the #1 seed, they would get “week 20” off as well.
Not a prefect solution, but a lot better than just declaring the game a tie or no contest, and virtually handing the #1 seed to KC.
Of course, KC could do the whole league a favor and lose on Saturday vs the Raiders.
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I suspect that if Hamlin continues to show some progress, the players would believe that they could HONOR him by continuing to do their jobs and play football this weekend.
I also suspect Hamlin’s family would feel the same.
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29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:7 hours ago, Kmart128 said:
Yeah i agree. I think NFL personnel and refs on field were starting standard procedures for injuries. And then i think the teams went to locker room waiting for the NFL league office to get all the information before making a decision.
Also think they could have just been trying to make it look like they were gonna play again so fans dont leave and the ambulance has trouble getting to hospital with all the traffic.
In some social media sites, there has been much knee jerk criticism directed at the “NFL” and Roger Goodell that they did not postpone the game quickly enough or were more concerned with finishing the game than Hamlin’s health status.
Those idiots have done so without any knowledge of what actually transpired in the short period of time between the ambulance leaving the field and the official announcement that the game was postponed. Very irresponsible and disgusting.
As time goes by, we will see comments by those directly involved, like Coach Taylor, with some details.
The Washington Post has published a story that gives some insight too.....I have “gifted” the link so anyone can read it in full)....
A search for answers amid a life-and-death scramble on an NFL field
QuoteAs medical personnel fought for Hamlin’s life, NFL executives grappled with how to handle the remainder of the game.
NFL chief football administrative officer Dawn Aponte represented the league office at Paycor Stadium. After the ambulance left the field, Bengals Coach Zac Taylor and Bills Coach Sean McDermott convened with referee Shawn Smith. Remotely, executive vice president Troy Vincent triangulated communication with Aponte, Smith, NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.
Shortly after the ambulance left the field, Buck told viewers that the game would restart after a five-minute warmup period, based on information that had come from ESPN officiating analyst John Parry, according to a person with knowledge of the broadcast. During every Monday night game, Parry corresponds with the league’s officiating department about issues such as replay review decisions, then relays information to Buck and his analyst, Troy Aikman. But this decision had escalated beyond those with whom Parry typically communicates.
“They’re going to try to continue to play this game,” Buck said at 9:13 p.m.
Despite Buck’s report, Vincent said later the league never considered restarting the game.
“Immediately, my player hat went on: How do you resume playing when such a traumatic event occurs in front of you in real time?” said Vincent, an NFL defensive back for 16 seasons. “And that’s the way we were thinking about it, the commissioner and I.”
Some players reverted to rituals that suggested they were preparing to play. Diggs, minutes after tears left streaks on his face, stood before teammates and delivered a fiery speech. Burrow made a few gentle tosses.
Buck noted on the broadcast that, despite going through those motions, the players didn’t seem to be preparing in earnest. “Nobody’s out there really warming up,” he said. “Everybody’s just stagnant.”
Vincent said he and Goodell decided they wanted to “let the coaches and players breathe” as they mulled whether to restart the game. McDermott and Taylor met again with Smith, the referee, then returned to their teams. McDermott shouted, “Locker room, locker room!” to his players.
At 9:18 p.m., Smith announced to the crowd the game had been temporarily suspended. Both teams left the field. Vincent said once the game was suspended, he stopped communicating with Smith and talked directly with McDermott and Taylor.
Vincent strongly denied the notion that the league had told players they had five minutes to warm up, calling it “ridiculous” and “insensitive” and saying he did not know where it came from. An assistant coach from one of the teams, who requested anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter, indicated no timetable for a restart was given to the coaching staffs and credited the head coaches for taking players off the field.
“Nothing was ever officially communicated like that,” the coach wrote in a text message. “I was up in the box, and we didn’t get much in the way of info. I think they were trying to figure out what to do, since it was so traumatic. And Sean and Zac, with input from players, decided to take teams to the locker room.”
On Tuesday, ESPN released a statement, backing Buck’s report.
“There was constant communication in real time between ESPN and league and game officials,” a network spokesman said. “As a result of that, we reported what we were told in the moment and immediately updated fans as new information was learned. This was an unprecedented, rapidly evolving circumstance.”
Once players found refuge in the locker room, the NFL continued deliberations. DeMaurice Smith, the NFLPA head, had communicated the union’s desire to postpone the game. The decision, according to the NFL rule book, would fall to Goodell.
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At 9:54 p.m., Bills equipment staffers packed up gear and players began shaking hands and hugging in the corridor between the locker rooms. At 10:01, the league announced the game had been postponed.
“Medical advice guided our decisions,” Aponte said. “We remained in constant communication, as Troy said, with both teams, with medical personnel, with the game officials, with ownership. And we made decisions that we believed to be in the best interests of Damar’s status and the state of both teams’ players and staff.”
What many people forget is that cell phones are not allowed on the sidelines, nor in the coaches booths. The only way to communicate with the NFL is through the officials on the filed. Which are in contact with the "league’s officiating department"....not Troy Vincent or Roger Goodell.
The decision to leave the field was initiated by the two coaches, and agreed upon by the on field referee.....and as Troy Vincent said that he and Goodell “let the coaches and players breathe” as they mulled whether to restart the game."
Once in the locker rooms, as we have seen from videos, is when both Taylor and McDermott can be seen passing a cell phone. I suspect that Troy Vincent (or more likely, Rodger Goodell) was on the line, as described by the article..."Vincent said once the game was suspended, he stopped communicating with Smith and talked directly with McDermott and Taylor."
The sticking point and confusion comes from ESPN saying that the communication they had with THEIR "ESPN officiating analyst John Parry” who is in contact with "the league’s officiating department about issues such as replay review decisions”. IF the message from these from the “officiating department” was a 5 min. warm up period, they were just doing their jobs in adhering to the rules when an extended play stoppage occurs.
The other reality, is that the announcement that the game was postponed came at 10:01PM. But, that is simply when the public was let in on the decision...NOT when it was actually made.
In a well run organization (which the NFL is) in an unprecedented situation like this that has not happened in the NFL for decades (a player in the early 70’s did collapse with heart attack) the NFL is sure to notify a wide range of people, before they announce to the public.
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1 hour ago, Process said:
Dion live on SC right now. First interview I see with a bills player.
Here is a youtube video of his interview....
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It’s close to irrelevant what happens on the first drive of the game.
Cincy did exactly the same thing (but much more) against NE, going up 22-0, and maintained the lead until about 4 min left in the 3rd quarter.
Then, they allowed the anemic Pats offense (and a pick 6) to roar back and scored the next 18 points. NE was about to get the winning TD when they fumbled the ball at the Bengal’s 8 yard line with 55 seconds left.
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20 minutes ago, Gary Marangi said:
Guarantee NFL said continue to play give McDermott and Taylor credit for saying to the ref go tell the NFL to f*** themselves we are not continuing
This is an example of some of the worst I mentioned above.
There is no way you can “guarantee” anything of the sort. It’s a form of smearing.
It is common sense (and what we can glean from Troy Vincent’s public statements) was that the shock of what was transpiring, what was of upmost importance and the concentration was on Hamlin’s well being and was foremost on everyone’s minds.
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Like everyone with a pulse, my prayers, thoughts and hope to Damar Hamlin and his family for the best outcome for this young man to survive, and hopefully, fully recover form this tragic event.
This unprecedented event (during a NFL game) has shown the best, and unfortunately, the worst of our society.
The best in the almost universal outpouring of support from so many people whether they are fans or not.
The best in the stellar and quick response from the medical personnel on site, the result of a concerted effort by the NFL and teams to be 100% prepared to address any tragedy like this. They had the proper tools and expertise that, probably saved this young man’s life.
The best in the sensitive way ESPN handled the unforeseen event unfolding on live TV to millions and million tuning in with horror.
The best in how both coaches and the players immediately were more concerned with their fallen brother than any silly football game.
The BEST in how thousands of people from around the country have donated over $4 MILLION to Hamlin’s Foundation.
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Per Shefty - Bills “expected to lose” Poyer and Edmunds
in The Stadium Wall
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The Bills have to do all they can to retain Edmunds.
I don’t buy the crapping on him from too many Bills fans. Around the NFL, with professional experts, they know that he is a vital part of the Bills defense and is one of the best MLB’s in the NFL.