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  1. 23 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

    I originally did this in consideration of the 6.5 over/under line for the Bills season but it also illustrates an important idea opposed to the myth to which you refer.  Big changes in win totals for teams having a starting QB  going into year 2 on their rookie deal are trending.  The basic thinking would be:

     

    1) Rookie QBs are not fully equipped to win in year 1 and their team's record will suffer fot it.  The highly drafted QBs almost always play in year 1 but teams do not fully prepare them to do so.  It's like they are afraid to let the veterans on the team see the starting job handed to a rookie without them "earning" it, therefore the foolish effort to give the Petermans and McCarron's of the NFL the bulk of the reps.

     

    2) QBs usually have multiple advantages going into year 2 as the starter that were not available to them in year 1 and they should be noticeably improved.  The entire offseason, usually within the same offense as year 1, gives them many additional months to hone their craft.

     

    3) Their relatively low salary cap numbers are compatible with building the roster around them. 

     

    Year 2 improvement is almost a certainty for both the QB and the team.  Teams having a sub .500 record where a rookie played at least 8 games went  12 of 14 at improving their year 2 record at least 1 game.  That elminates Mahomes, Luck, Dalton, Bridgewater and Griffen from consideration.  Glennon and Gabbert were the only over/under "losers."  That's 8 of 14 (excluding EJ) with at least a 3 game improvement and 7 of 14 with a 4 or more win improvement.  So screw the sophomore jinx crap and dare to think big.  A 4 game improvement gets the Bills in the playoffs and 5 or more threatens the Patriots for the divison.  These kinds of improvements have been happening almost every year since the current CBA was in place.  Why not the Bills in 2019?

     

    QB Drafted # Team Year 1 Wins Year 2 Wins Δ
    Goff  1 Rams 2016 4 2017 11 7
    Trubisky 2 Bears 2017 5 2018 12 7
    Watson 12 Texans 2017 4 2018 11 7
    Ponder 12 Vikings 2011 3 2012 10 7
    Wentz 2 Eagles 2016 7 2017 13 6
    Mariotta 2 Titans 2015 3 2016 9 6
    Carr 36 Raiders 2014 3 2015 7 4
    Winston 1 Buccaneers 2015 6 2016 9 3
    Manuel 16 Bills 2013 6 2014 9 3
    Mahomes 10 Chiefs 2017 10 2018 12 2
    Bortles 3 Jaguars 2014 3 2015 5 2
    Tannehill 8 Dolphins 2012 7 2013 8 1
    Newton  1 Panthers 2011 6 2012 7 1
    Dalton 35 Bengals 2011 9 2012 10 1
    Luck 1 Colts 2012 11 2013 11 0
    Mayfield 1 Browns 2018 7 2019 ? 0
    Darnold 3 Jets 2018 4 2019 ? 0
    Allen 7 Bills 2018 6 2019 ? 0
    Rosen 10 Cardinals 2018 3 2019 ? 0
    Jackson 32 Ravens 2018 10 2019 ? 0
    Glennon 73 Buccaneers 2013 4 2014 2 -2
    Bridgewater 32 Vikings 2014 11 2015 8 -3
    Gabbert 10 Jaguars 2011 5 2012 2 -3
    Smith 39 Jets 2013 8 2014 4 -4
    Griffen 2 Redskins 2012 10 2013 3 -7

     

    Notes:

    Watson only started 6 games his rookie year.

    Jackson 7 games.

    Kizer got traded to the Packers after year 1 so he is irrelevant to the discussion.

     

    If you see any other inconsistencies/mistakes I will edit this post accordingly.

    Mahomes played 1 game in 2017.  He shouldn't be on this list.

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