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  1. I think running two TEs is actually a very good move for the pats and people here are overlooking how much it could help them.

     

    Cam has actually had the best success in his career throwing to TEs, with Greg Olsen leading the Panthers in receiving four years straight from 2013-2016. Greg Olsen also had by far the five best years of his career with Cam throwing to him (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OlseGr00.htm).

     

    From my perspective, Cam is best as a scrambling, run-option QB, and good TEs can help a lot those schemes.

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  2. 5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

    Well, his rookie year in AZ, he played behind the worst O-line in the league, after which he was dumped as part of a re-build (a fairly experimental re-build, at that). Then, in Miami, he was literally positioned to fail. The Miami FO was so egregiously tanking that the NFL competition committee got involved. And, needless to say, there are plenty of Bills fans who wanted him to be drafted over Allen, and they hate to be proven wrong.

     

    Of course, none of this means he doesn't stink.

     

    Yet the second Fitzpatrick came in for Rosen, it looked like a different offense. How do you explain that?

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  3. 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

    And there's a bucket of unknown variables that could throw off your math, plus it's a small sample size.  Other players could just be waiting for whatever reason to announce they are sitting out, with the Pats players jumping the gun.

     

    I'm betting on they are just tired of Belichick's crap.

    Fair point. The math just shows it’s improbable that the high density of patriots players opting out is totally random (assuming players make decisions independently of each other).

     

    A player revolt against Belichick is another plausible explanation.

  4. The patriots are doing something fundamentally different in their approach. Let me support that with some statistics.

     

    Right now there are 25 players opting out, 6 on the pats (source: https://www.nfl.com/news/list-of-nfl-players-to-opt-out-of-2020-season). If all players opt out with equal probability, there is a 1/32 chance each is on the pats. The total number of players on the pats opting out would be binomially distributed, with 25 coin flips, and success with probability 1/32 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution). The probability of 6 or more successes (i.e., players opting out) is p<1*10e-4 (https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx). Therefore having this many opt-outs on the pats randomly occurring would happen 1 in 10,000 times.

     

    Also come on, it's the pats.

  5. 4 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

    I am not going to get on anyone's case for opting out.

     

    This is especially tough, I would imagine, if you are a limited salary player anyways.  

     

    Just going by the sheer math (I am sure there are other variables) he is also giving up $785,000 (i year $935,000 contract).

     

     

     

     

    He only had 25k guaranteed (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/deanthony-thomas-14535/), but gets 150k for the opt out.

     

    Could he have been told he would have to fight for a spot on the team? Could have been a calculated financial decision, especially taking risks into account.

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  6. On 6/28/2020 at 10:18 AM, PetermansRedemption said:

    It’s all the same. Generally, if John Q Public has the information, it isn’t likely to move the market very much as it will already be priced in. 

    Two economists walk down the street and seeing a $20 bill lying on the sidewalk. The first economist says, "Look at that $20 bill." The second says, "That can't really be a $20 bill lying there, because if it were, someone would have picked it up already."

     

    So they walk on, leaving the $20 bill undisturbed.

  7. 15 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

    In today’s NFL, with the depravity of good QB’s, especially young. If he were to be back in the draft I would think 3-7 range would be about right. To trade him I would need the first overall pick in a good QB draft so I could have my pick of the litter at replacing him. 

    de·prav·i·ty
    /dəˈpravədē/
    noun
    1. moral corruption; wickedness.
  8. The combine order for throwing absolutely changed the perception of Fromm. Fromm threw right after Eason, who clocked in at 59mph and was the fastest thrower in the combine. Fromm clocked in at 53mph, which is reasonable for the NFL. Watson threw 45mph in comparison...

     

    Among the other top prospects this draft, only Herbert threw a little faster than Fromm (55/54mph). Here's what the data shows:

     

    Year: 2020

    Jacob Eason Washington 59 (Left) 59 (Right)
    Jake Luton Oregon State 59 (Left) 56 (Right)
    Steven Montez Colorado 58 (Left) 59 (Right)
    Kevin Davidson Princeton 57 (Left) 56 (Right)
    Justin Herbert Oregon 55 (Left) 54 (Right)
    James Morgan Florida International 54 (Left) 54 (Right)
    Jordan Love Utah State 54 (Left) 53 (Right)
    Jalen Hurts Oklahoma 54 (Left) 51 (Right)
    Jake Fromm Georgia 53 (Left) 53 (Right)
    Nate Stanley Iowa 52 (Left) 54 (Right)
    Anthony Gordon Washington State 52 (Left) 51 (Right)
    Brian Lewerke Michigan State 51 (Left) 49 (Right)
    Cole McDonald Hawaii 51 (Left) 47 (Right)
    Shea Patterson Michigan 50 (Left) 51 (Right)
    Kelly Bryant Missouri 47 (Left) 45 (Right)
    Joe Burrow – did not throw
    Tua Tagovailoa – did not throw
     
     
     
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  9. 2 hours ago, hjnick said:

    OK, the one thing that really bothers me is that most of the free agents / players coming to the Bills are coming from the Panthers, which is where he was prior to being our GM.  He is using his inside knowledge on those players and if they are worth bringing here.

     

    I just worry about in a couple of years when he cannot use Carolina players as his personal free agent store (because those will be players he won't know well) and he needs to start evaluating and pulling more FA's from other teams.

     

    There were six starters last year, that Beane brought in as free agents:

    1. Mitch Morse

    2. Jon Feliciano

    3. Quinton Spain

    4. John Brown

    5. Cole Beasley

    6. Frank Gore (first half of the season)

     

    None of those free agent signings were from Carolina. In fact, when Beane has brought in Carolina players as free agents, they have tended to do worse here.

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  10. 4 hours ago, Billl said:

    That’s certainly food for thought.  Why don’t you show me the top two or three in each of those categories for the past two years, and we’ll see if those are more indicative of top tier QB play that QBR, QB rating, YPA, completion percentage, and PPG.  I know that when I’m trying to figure out what’s what, top 8 in “completed air yards per completion” isn’t the first thing I check, but maybe it should be.

    Here are the 15 quarterbacks with the most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm). Not a bad list

     

    1          Peyton Manning         43        1998-2015      2TM     View Comebacks

    2          Tom Brady      36        2000-2019      nwe     View Comebacks

    3          Drew Brees     35        2001-2019      2TM     View Comebacks

    4          Johnny Unitas+           34        1956-1973      2TM     View Comebacks

    5          Dan Marino+   33        1983-1999      mia      View Comebacks

    6          John Elway+    31        1983-1998      den      View Comebacks

                Ben Roethlisberger     31        2004-2019      pit        View Comebacks

    8          Matt Ryan       30        2008-2019      atl        View Comebacks

    9          Fran Tarkenton+         29        1961-1978      2TM     View Comebacks

                Vinny Testaverde        29        1987-2007      7TM     View Comebacks

    11        Brett Favre+    28        1991-2010      4TM     View Comebacks

                Matthew Stafford       28        2009-2019      det       View Comebacks

    13        Eli Manning     27        2004-2019      nyg      View Comebacks

                Philip Rivers    27        2004-2019      sdg      View Comebacks

    15        Joe Montana+ 26        1979-1994      2TM     View Co

     

     

  11. 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    I'm guessing you're correct.  The other Bills player slightly above the average line would probably be John Brown, at 178 lbs and 20.5 mph

     

    I'd love to know who the Ravens guy is that's overlapped by Josh Allen. 

    I also wish they labeled Lamar Jackson.  I'm guessing he's at 20.4 mph and 212 lbs, overlapped by a Cowboys and a Texans player.

    Gus Edwards I think

  12. Just now, Richard Noggin said:

    Reasonable take. 

     

    One could argue Dawson Knox appears to possess high end athleticism. "Top speed" is not a very holistic assessment of explosiveness or agility (although many of the fast guys are those things as well). 

     

    But yeah, your conclusion is difficult to dispute.

    I'd guess he's one of the two Bills players above the average line,  at ~255lb. Impressive that Kelce is noticeably faster at a slightly bigger size, though.

  13. I just saw an interesting post from NFL Next Gen Stats, showing the weight and top speed (MPH) for a number of offensive players in the NFL this year (credit: https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1217540824809914368).

     

    From the graph you'll notice that a lot of the guys near the Pareto curve in size vs speed are among the most effective offensive players in the league (i.e. nobody as big is faster, or nobody as fast is bigger). Some standout names here are Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, Christian Mccaffrey, Travis Kelce, and Odell Beckham Jr.

     

    On the Bills, there's just a single player who's substantially above average for these metrics: Josh Allen. In fact, only two other Bills players are barely over the average line, and the rest are all below.

     

    For me, this is a clear indication that the Bills could benefit tremendously by adding top athletes to the offense.

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