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This smells of an orginization that has basically already made a decision in what they’re going to do, but it’s trying to find ways to give a false sense of fan involvement.
Thats not not a bad thing honestly. Their business, their decision, as long as government money isn’t involved.
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Was this sent to season ticket holders only?
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13 minutes ago, Steptide said:
I would just say be careful what you wish for. Downtown stadiums do not have near the tailgating experience that a stadium like New era has, and let's be honest, half the fun of going to a bills game is the tail gating.
That’s not half the fun unless you’re underage and love throwing yourself into flaming tables. That’s the stuff Pegula and the NFL want to get rid of. Will that stop downtown? Most likely. That’s doesn’t means tailgating stops. That’s a myth that needs to stop being purpetuated by anti-downtown stadium people. Tailgating still exists in a Chicago, Cleveland, Pitt, and yes, Detroit. They just don’t do stupid crap that Bills fans do..what you think of as tailgating is not tailgating.. it’s drunken stupidity. Tailgating exists in all these places, in parking lots and closed city streets. Don’t act like it just magically disappears. There’s no reason to be careful. I wish immensely for a downtown stadium so the idiocy stupidity before the games can come to an end. The rest of the NFL looks at us like we’re Neanderthals.
Just now, Steptide said:You don't have to act like a drunken fool to enjoy tailgating. I was making the point that it's part of the fun/experience.
And it can still exist (and most likely will) and has been proven to exist in their cities with urban stadiums.
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2 minutes ago, Steptide said:
You're missing the point. People who go to bills games that live in rochester arnt going to see the city, they're going to support their favorite team. If you've ever had to drive home after a bills game and you love outside Buffalo, you know how much it sucks. A stadium outside downtown makes more sense and I'd love it
It may make more sense for certain fans who live in Rochester. But it makes no sense for the fans from Buffalo, Toronto, or Erie. It also makes no sense for Buffalo’s economy which is why it shouldn’t be located there. And because it makes no sense for anything pertaining to Buffalo, it probably won’t happen.
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3 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Maybe not, but I can tell you I'd prefer that over downtown Buffalo
100% wrong. I would never ever spend a weekend in Buffalo. Building a stadium downtown might be great for people aged 18-25, but anyone over 30 who lives outside buffalo would. Much rather avoid a down town stadium. I'm speaking of people from Rochester, Erie and Toronto. Not people who live out of state.
Rochester, Erie, and Toronto are the people that are targeted for that kind of weekend economy. And it’s a real thing.
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1 minute ago, Steptide said:
Maybe not, but I can tell you I'd prefer that over downtown Buffalo
“I’m a fan of the Buffalo Bills, but I hate the City of Buffalo because I’m from Rochester and want to spend as little time there as possible.”
Makes sense.
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10 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Because ALOT of fans that at are the games are not from Buffalo. I live in Rochester and anytime I've gotten food after a game or went to a bar after the game it was after we got back to Rochester. Their is not a whole lot around New era field and my guess is they want to develop some undeveloped land and make it a destination. Much like what the Patriots did with Gillette stadium
And this is reason #1 why you build in downtown Buffalo. Trap people, get them to stay the weekend and spend their money. This will happen if built in downtown Buffalo, not in no mans land Newstead.
I get the feeling that Business Terry knows this.
They know you you will go back home to Rochester after the game if they stay in Orchard Park or build elsewhere in the boonies. That’s why it makes no sense to build there.
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19 minutes ago, dlonce said:
Believe me,it’s not going anywhere near Batavia. The main market isn’t Rochester either,it’s Buffalo,the metro area and Southern Ontario.To the poster who stated Rochester is the second largest market,that would be incorrect. It’s WNY and Ontario. If you include the metro Toronto area then you are looking at one of the largest markets in the NFL.
Rochesters a great market for ticket sales,and a great fan base but it’s not the second main market. A move to Batavia could alienate a really large market in Canada and parts of WNY.
Believe little what is posted here. Including what I’m posting if you desire.The op will be correct on what was stated regarding the team. If you read exactly what was posted you will see all bases covered. Tyrod getting traded,Tyrod staying, Dennison gone,Dennison staying,the Bills are after Cousins,if not Cousins then Bradford or Kennum or Bridgewater and so on. .If they can’t get any one of those guys they will draft one of Darnold who they really love (publicly stated already) or Rosen or Mayfield. Or Jackson or... Again,all bases covered.
It was said he was looking for property near the supposed property of a new stadium,then it turned into being a minor investor within a group that purchased property.
Which is it?
There might be a restaurant and plaza being built that Thurman Thomas and his group purchased land for but it’s got nothing to do with a football stadium and everything to do with his Batavia Downs venture and belief in Batavia. If Thurman’s telling potential investors the stadium might be built there(wink,wink) then shame on him.
Some people have real sources,and those sources are saying the stadium issue is in its infancy,but can progress quickly when they are ready. The leagues pushing him to get moving, and after last Sunday’s game they are pushing again. They are to get a stadium built outside of the snow belt region.
If Pegula wants funding from the State he’s going to have to build the stadium as close to Buffalo as possible. It’s politically motivated and earmarked for the economy of Buffalo and Western New York. Any stadium built in remote areas would not be cost effective,there would be monumental costs for infrastructure,sewage,water,electricity,ingress and egress issues, of which will be difficult to raise bonds for. Pegula would have to build the stadium himself and that’s not happening.
Those are the real facts, from real sources.
Thanks for being the voice of reason. I believe your sources. The Bills playing out in Batavia really scared me for a while. Hopefully your sources are correct and his are incorrect haha. Does Terry really have a bias against downtown like Dunkirk Don said? Or is that hearsay?
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2 minutes ago, PolishDave said:
Why would you need 1,000's of undeveloped acres?
Stadiums don't take many acres at all. Do you know how large an acre is?
The massive Dallas stadium is on 80 acres.
Thruway mall site is big enough for stadium itself I believe.
I get it but you need a ton of land for what the want to do with the shopping plaza and destination that Dunkirk Don talked about. Sure a stadium could fit at the Thruway mall, but do you really think they would stick a building like that smack dab in the middle of an already congested area filled with big box stores and residential areas? I don’t think it would be wise to do that...
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Just now, MarkAF43 said:
Lol but seriously. I don't see how it makes sense. I can't imagine with all the Pegulas are investing in Buffalo and right near Key bank center that they're going to move the Bills stadium to Genessee county.
It so idiotic that it make sense. With all the good they’ve done, isn’t it time for a massive Buffalo screw up?
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Just now, PolishDave said:
Cheektowaga area or borderline Cheektowaga/city line makes a lot of sense. Most populous and most central suburb. Galleria mall is already the most successful commerce magnet in WNY. And its for a reason - mostly location. If I was a commercial real estate developer, I would think that area holds the highest likelihood of success for this type of project. And it is close enough to the city/downtown for entire area to benefit.
Yes but find me 1000s of availible undeveloped acres on Cheektowaga. There aren’t many sites like that left in the immediate burbs.
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This is going to turn out like the Richfield Coliseum in the boonies of Cleveland did..a big fat mistake...
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Just now, Dunkirk Don said:
Close
It must the in Batavia Downs casino area, as Thurman Thomas is heavily involved with that.
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2 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said:
Any questions for my source
Don, my guesses are the new STAMP plant being built by the state in the Town of Alabama or an area further south by Darien Lake. Am I correct with either?
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1 minute ago, Dunkirk Don said:
You probably can only take out half but it will be good investment. Stadium will be part of an entertainment complex. People will be shocked when location announced??
Don, answer this at least. Is it within the City of Buffalo proper, or in the suburbs? And if you can’t answer that, is there a smaller hint you can give us?
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It’s annoying that he deleted everything which seems to me like it was all BS. The Dennison stuff is interested but I want to know more about the proposed stadium. Not downtown, not south of the city, east of Orchard Park, included is a shopping plaza and a new restaurant. Where could any of this go east of Orchard Park? It’s truly no mans land. And farther from Toronto! Everything he said is kind of contradictory.
EDIT: Total cost to taxpayers? Bills select sports firm to represent ownership in building new open air stadium in OP, targeted for 2025
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Any chance you know that the issues are that the city brought up? Is this all just subterfuge to get the city to straighten itself out?
sounds to me like the city isn’t as “out” as everyone has assumed.