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My two favorite teams: The Bills, and anybody playing the Pats.
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34 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Peter Pan is done. This cute little experiment is over. Go out tomorrow and start shopping. I have no problem not playing Allen this year, but they have to cut Peterman and get 2 guys...
So, pre-season doesn't matter, and Peterman is who he is, just like last season.
To be fair, we should have kept Tyrod to at least have something to hold us over until Allen is ready.
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1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:
I don't care about last year. I care about today. Got that Hoss?
Noted: you think pre-season matters. We'll revisit this during the regular season.
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4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Technically threw 2 TDs on one drive. Take that Peterman haters. He's accurate as hell. Give him time and he'll hit KB all day.
Slow down there, hoss. "Accurate as hell"... Peterman Regular Season 2017: 49% comp, 2 TD, 5 INT.
It's pre-season man. Nothing matters here, it's been proven over and over.
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6 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said:
He attempted 80 less passes that year which would coincide with less yards and tds. His qbr however did go up.
It did go up from 2002-2003, by .2%. from 2001 - 2002, his QBR dropped off by 10 points.
QBR is a rough way to judge QB's though. For example, Tyrod had a much higher QBR than Brady did in each of their first three seasons, which clearly isn't a great example.
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16 hours ago, Zebrastripes said:
Everyone that has argued yards doesn't matter doesn't take into account the fact Tyrod regressed from season 1 to season 3 as a starter. Every example people use such as Brady and Brees is nonsense because both of these guys showed steady improvement from year 1 and beyond. Brees did have the hiccup in year 2 as a starter but showed steady improvement in year 3 and beyond.
Plus let's take a look at average passing yards per game from then until now. I bet there is a difference.
Never once did I say that yards don't matter. What I said was that yards shouldn't be the sole metric for judging a QB off of. There's a ton of data that goes into a QB's performance, and everything should be considered.
Btw, Brady regressed in his second full season as starter, so your blanket statement of "steady improvement" year after year isn't necessarily true either, and it doesn't need to be. Every pro QB has hiccup seasons, some just brush it off and move forward, such as Brees who you mentioned. What matters is the final product, which is where Tyrod absolutely didn't pan out. I would've been just find with Tyrod having some rough seasons if he cleaned it up in the end, but he simply regressed year after year.
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8 hours ago, Zebrastripes said:
Two games with under 100 passing yards and 6 more with under 200 really isn't doing enough to stay on a NFL team.
Please stop with yards only garbage. In Brady's first three seasons as a starter, he threw for 14 games under 200 yards. This clearly isn't a sole metric to judge off of.
Edit: To be clear, his first three entire seasons as a starter. This isn't counting Brady's first year when he took over mid-season, which would have a higher count of low yardage games.
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This makes me miss Bobby April. Guy fielded some of the best special teams groups we've ever had. Even voted Special Teams Coach of the Year in 2009.
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2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:
The Rams and Eagles say otherwise. You get your QB when you can.
With that said this is a deep QB class and who knows what can happen.
You literally just cherry picked two instances. Statistics, on the other hand, show that there are way more misses than hits in the 1st round for QB's.
"For every successful first-round quarterback pick in recent years, there are almost twice as many failures. A conclusion can be drawn with 19 of the first-round picks. Only seven, or 36.8 percent, arguably could be considered a success."
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On 2/26/2018 at 6:57 PM, NewEra said:
The browns drafted Kessler in rd 1? The browns have traded a 2nd and 3rd for McCarron? I’m SO confused.
annnnnd this is what happens when you drink and post. You're right, not sure where I got that from.
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On 2/27/2018 at 5:51 AM, joesixpack said:
Better not try then amirite?
No, you definitely try. But only if OBD is 100% confident that this is their guy. You don't draft one to draft one, especially if we are blowing all of our draft capital in the process. Amirite?
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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:
Or you could blow your draft capital and end up like Philadelphia
It's true, Eagles jumped and it paid off. My point is that some people claim to draft a QB in high year after year until you hit gold. That eats up a TON of draft capital, and ends up weakening teams at other essential positions. Like the Browns, drafted a QB in the first 3 rounds 7 out of 10 years, and sucked for nearly a decade as a result.
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7 minutes ago, Rockinon said:
This is pretty much what I am thinking. The team overall has a lot of holes to fill. Can't see them giving up a bunch of draft picks to move up. With all of the FA QBs available this year, it's much more likely that one of them falls to Buffalo anyway. Other teams are not going to trade too far up to land a QB either. Management doesn't really need to gamble to get what they want. Plus this QB class isn't coming off the board all that quick anyway. This class is way over hyped.
To further your point, blowing draft capital on one position is how you end up like the Browns:
2007 - Brady Quinn, 1st Round
2010 - Colt McCoy, 3rd Round
2012 - Brandon Weeden, 1st Round
2014 - Johnny Manziel, 1st Round
2016 - Cody Kessler, 1st Round
2017 - DiShone Kizer, 2nd Round
2017 - A.J. McCarron (2nd and 3rd Round 2018 Picks)
That's 4 first Round QB's, two 2nd Round QB's, and a 3rd Round QB in 10 years.
Browns record for the last 10 years:
2007 - 10/6
2008 - 4/12
2009 - 5/11
2010 - 5/11
2011 - 4/12
2012 - 5/11
2013 - 4/12
2014 - 7/9
2015 - 3/13
2016 - 1/15
2017 - Perfect Season
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1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Saying the reasons Bills will keep Tyrod article is stupid is actually quite ironic since you are obviously taking other rumors and gossip as somehow gospel. We dont know what the Bills plans are, if they are really trying to get into the top 10, etc.
Not to mention, even if the Bills are exploring the top 10, doesn't mean they are set on doing that. Once they find the cost of said deals, they will weigh the cost versus other options, which could be a FA QB like Cousins, a mid tier Vet FA QB like one of the Vikes, a young FA QB prospect like AJ, or even keeping Tyrod and drafting a QB in the draft with one of our existing picks.
So sorry, pretty foolish for anyone to blast any article or promote any article as absolute truth. In fact, there is an article saying the Bills want Rosen...an article saying the Bills want Darnold, and now an article saying the Bills want Allen LMAO. No one knows anything, its all speculation to get clicks. The Bills, and no team for that matter, are going to give away their draft plans and strategy in the media.
So whether you like it or not, they are all equally dumb articles, with little to no substance, including the rumors of Bills interest to move up.
6Welcome to the Bills message board, where opinion might as well be fact. To disagree is to "lack football knowledge".
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Need an option for watching because we hate the *Pats.
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6 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:
I’m still convinced that our WRs were terrible because of the play of our QB....
"Despite all the shifts, Buffalo fielded one of the worst wide receiver groups in the NFL in 2017. Bills wide receivers averaged 2.47 yards of separation when their quarterback released the ball, ranking dead last, with the second-to-last team averaging 2.61. Quarterback Tyrod Taylor seems destined to move on from the team following a peculiar midseason benching. The Bills will have to settle matters in their receiver group while they start over under center."
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7 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:
1. Quarterback, does not have to be a Drew Brees type, just someone who can convert %60 of 3rd downs and score 24 points a game. Alex Smith, Kurt Cousins, Sam Bradford or Rookie.
2. Maintain a tight secondary, either resign Gaines or draft an acceptable replacement. I would resign Gaines at a reasonable rate if they can.
3. At least one dominant DT who can push the pocket. Hughes still has life on the edge but no interior pocket pressure last year. Maurice Hurst, Derrick Nnadi or Da'Ron Payne.
4. Franchise ILB, Preston Brown had a lot of tackles but made few impact plays.Take your pick of Rashaan Evans, Micah Kiser or Roquan Smith. a 100 + tackle, 4 sack, 4 INT player.
If these are all filled the Bills will make the playoffs again and compete for the division.
(WHAT DO YOU THINK??)
"Just someone who can convert 60% of 3rd downs?" Except, that's not a single damn QB in the entire league this year. Wentz was the closest with 54%, the rest were below 50%, including Brady. So what you're asking for is "just" a HOF QB, better than anyone who currently plays the game? Well ****, sign me up.
Also, didn't you make the thread about the Saint win over the Vikings, and why a franchise QB contributed to it?
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On 1/17/2018 at 12:36 PM, Captain Hindsight said:
With Jimmy G likely to be franchised, would you sign him to an offer sheet and give up the two 1st rounders to get him?
Discuss
Six games played in 2017 is what we're willing to give up a first rounder (or more) for?
Out of the 6 games, here are the averages per game:
260 yards
1.16 TD's
.83 INT's
67% Completion
Before you say New England:
6 game season in 2016:
83 YPG
.66 TD's
0 INT's
68% Completion
We seem to be getting desperate as a fan-base. It's literally a solid 6 game season that people are willing to throw first round picks at. I'd much rather get a Smith or Cousins in 2018.
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On 1/13/2018 at 6:16 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said:
I've heard this excuse before
I was just thinking that.
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On 1/17/2018 at 6:20 AM, matter2003 said:
Its a week to week league. A performance one week does not guarantee the same performance the next week.
Why can't people get this basic concept through their heads? Holding a team to 10 points one week doesn't mean if you played them the next week you would have done it again.
Its simply a 1 game snapshot and doesn't mean much of anything on how the team will perform the following week.
This.. absolutely this.
On the 9th of November the Jets, a 28th ranked offense, hung 34 on us. They must be an elite offense to score on our elite D, judging by how we held the Jags down. Am I doing this right?
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Bills WR core ranked 8th of 10 most underperforming units in the NFL in 2017. List includes QB's, O-Lines, and RB's, among others. Regardless of what we do at QB this year, we need to take a hard look at the WR core.
"Despite all the shifts, Buffalo fielded one of the worst wide receiver groups in the NFL in 2017. Bills wide receivers averaged 2.47 yards of separation when their quarterback released the ball, ranking dead last, with the second-to-last team averaging 2.61. Quarterback Tyrod Taylor seems destined to move on from the team following a peculiar midseason benching. The Bills will have to settle matters in their receiver group while they start over under center."
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1 hour ago, Dafan said:
As why i said QB\team. I get it wasn't just taylor, but even the majority of the passes he attempted were short.
For clarification... Are you saying the majority of passes he made on the 3rd down were short of getting the 1st? Sorry, I'm just not fully understanding this without specific context.
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2 hours ago, Dafan said:
Other QBs\teams would convert on 1st and second downs more often.
With the 3rd most rushing attempts in the NFL, a lot of those 1st and 2nd downs weren't on the QB, forcing the 3rd down pass. So, it's definitely not all on Taylor.
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