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1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:
I disagree. Those not involved should always presume innocence and be skeptical of accusations. Unfortunately our society has tipped in the other direction. That’s a bad thing and why everything is a # now. Everyone is now automatically guilty of something whether it’s racism or whatever the flavor of the month/ year is.
in almost any other situation i would agree with you. the court of public opinion is an awful thing. but for me, people on the periphery should be impartial because doubt and calls of bs is what is stopping a lot of victims coming forward. that's just my view personally.
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6 minutes ago, KD in CA said:
That's the stupidest thing written in this thread yet. Unbelievable.
maybe i didn't accurately express myself. i understand that's important to doubt accusations and onus is on the accuser to provide evidence. what im saying is that people not involved in the investigation shouldn't cast judgement either way until more information becomes available because of the impact of the expression of doubt.
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9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Doubt should always be cast upon accusations rather than the accused. We live under a justice system based on reasonable doubt, after all. Reasonable doubt of guilt should always be assumed until proven otherwise. It is on the accuser to prove guilt. Innocence is presumed. The court of public opinion would be a lousy system to live under, as the rush to judgement shows.
when you're part of the investigation, absolutely. it's a necessity to work from that viewpoint. but people not involved and picking sides and nailing their colours to the mast with no knowledge of the situation helps no-one. in fact, it can make it much worse.
i'm not saying anyone here is doing that. i just mean in general.
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10 minutes ago, rodneykm said:
This is also the most alarming thing to me as well. Scary how this country is starting to get.
i don't think it's that. for me at least, it's just that this specific type of allegation has to be treated a bit differently due to the ramifications of the expression of any kind of doubt. it's not about instantly believing what the woman said at all, it's just that you also should not cast any doubt on the accusations. it's important to stay completely impartial.
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Just now, Alphadawg7 said:
Trust me, I am not...had a close friend go through this more than once, so I take it very serious. But the reality is that there is literally no reason for her to originate this post if he is beating kids. Its one thing to say nothing, its another to just make a post like this. Seems highly suspicious she was say this if he was beating kids.
if an abuser wants his victim to perpetuate the lie and post good things about him, she will. guess what happens if she doesn't? these people fear for their lives.
again, i'll stress that i don't know if that's what's happening here. i'm just giving examples of what often happens in these type of cases.
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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Where I disagree is that its supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty". And now, McCoy isnt even innocent until proven the story is real. Thats absurd today. If this was broken by ESPN or some credible news site, then I would have been like oh crap. But it was a random post on IG with no evidence to have any truth to it nor any evidence in McCoys history to suggest he is even capable of these allegations.
So sorry, but he is 100% innocent until the story is authenticated. And its already been proven it wasnt McCoy, its on Facebook talking about armed intruders and not McCoy.
so you won't believe a domestic violence incident occurred unless ESPN report it? bizarre
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12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Come on...this isnt fair. No one is attacking the victim. In fact, there is no confirmed incident yet, so still not a confirmed victim. The girl allegedly beaten has nothing out there that suggests she was even beaten. The girls in the pic dont even look like the same person. Some random person posts a random IG post with a pic as the only evidence that doesn't even like the same person in the photo. He has no history of this behavior, the pic of her is in a different country than where McCoy seems to have been, the IG handle of McCoy is incorrect, the beaten girls IG has no reference to McCoy and her even knowing each other, and the other allegation are so severe it seems impossible none of it would have come out before.
This is what is wrong with society...more than 90% of the stuff online is fake...its probably even worse than that...and yet people take all this stuff as true first before questioning it. I am dumbfounded how many people are jumping to the conclusion this is real with a complete lack of evidence this event even happened.
Look if its true, everyone wants McCoy to go down hard for being an awful person. But its totally reckless to assume some random thing like this is true without any history to suggest this pattern of behavior, no confirmation the beating ever even happened, etc etc. Its actually quite disturbing how many people are defending a victim they dont even know exists or not.
"The girl allegedly beaten has nothing out there that suggests she was even beaten." this is what happens with domestic violence. abusers have such control over their partner that they can make them do whatever they want.
"The girls in the pic dont even look like the same person" come on dude, seriously? in the first pic she's modelled up. in the second she's been beaten to a bloody pulp.
"He has no history of this behavior" lol no kidding. if he did, he wouldn't be in the league any more.
"the beaten girls IG has no reference to McCoy and her even knowing each other" ask yourself...if your partner was beating you, would you want to post a picture of yourself with them?
"This is what is wrong with society...more than 90% of the stuff online is fake...its probably even worse than that...and yet people take all this stuff as true first before questioning it. I am dumbfounded how many people are jumping to the conclusion this is real with a complete lack of evidence this event even happened."
by the same token, it's completely reckless to assume that it's fake. if everyone cries bs every time a DV victim comes forward, they'll never find the courage to speak up. in fact, she never did. her friend had to do it for her.
i'm by no means accusing shady of anything yet, either. i'm just providing the counter argument here. let's just see how it plays out without leaning either way.
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just goes to show that you never know what goes on behind closed doors. horrendous accusations, probably the worst i've ever seen in terms of the different types of abuse he's being implicated in.
the amount of people who are clamouring for any kind of evidence to show that she's making it up is pretty sad too. i hope it isn't true and i understand the scepticism to a degree, considering the type of personality he projects publicly. but that type of reaction is exactly what stops victims of domestic violence from coming forward.
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it actually is coming home. ???????
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Deon Cain
Anthony Averett
Tyrell Crosby
Antonio Callaway
Tarvarus McFadden
Shaquem GriffenBo Scarborough
Troy Fumagalli
Would be really happy with any of these guys.
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wtf i love josh allen now
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Just now, John from Riverside said:
I am trying why we would even trade Shaq who is on a rookie deal....sets the edge well....and can improve.
For a 3rd round guy? Why?
ive never been a fan. i think yarborough offers everything shaq does.
id rather have a shot at a decent interior lineman or center.
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wonder if we could get a late third for shaq...
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nick chubb has been my boy since 2015. hope he does well for cleveland.
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Really good scouting report on him here.
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high draft picks don't guarantee wins. ask the browns. we got a rookie of the year candidate and a potential elite cornerback at number 27 last year.
the belief and confidence that was instilled in this team after making the playoffs is far more valuable than a high draft pick to me. you can't build a winning culture by losing games.
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yeah, sign me up for this.
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decent run stuffer but offers zero pass rush. like someone said, decent camp body.
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great move.
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Matthews' arrival meant he was gonna be an afterthought in the offense. He's strictly a slot receiver at this point too, so it's not a big deal.
Won't stop the media from laughing though. It's not Beane's or McDermott's fault.
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it's a good job teams aren't finished judging them for another year or so then isnt it? i don't see how he can make that assessment with another whole season of college ball yet to play, at least.
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i actually liked "bills run deep". at least it meant something and was accurate in more ways than one. this one just doesn't make any sense to me.
i think you just take it for what it is. theyve got to try and galvanise the fan base. it's basic public relations. they're clearly trying to push the team mentality though so it does no harm.
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I think it's the sensible call. If he stays healthy and lights it up, either tag him or sort out a long term deal. If he can't shake the injuries, cut ties.
I really hope it's the former.
TB @ Buffalo Game thread - 1st Half
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i think it might've been the tackle on the sideline before the touchdown. didn't look anything major but he looked a little bit shook up.