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He never said that being an AA/3 year starter guarantees success in the nfl......now your putting words in people's mouths.
He ABSOLUTELY inferred that. If you don't agree, then move along. That's certainly what I got out of it.
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I asked for a list so you could waste hours of your time trying to prove a point that is already known. I already stated that. I know that being an AA or 3 year starter doesn't guarantee success at the nfl level. Did anyone say that? I know I didn't. I don't remember anyone else in this thread saying that. Not sure what you're getting at there. I suppose you're just upset because your "list" of 2 players was 50% incorrect. Point stands that no one said being an AA or 3 year starter guarantees anything. So what are you babbling about? I don't get it. Maybe it's because I'm a "total tool".
I think you finally got it. You're not worth hours of time trying to prove a point.
Somebody did, in fact, use the AA/3-year starter argument in this thread. That's what I responded to. Wow, did you miss the point. It's pretty clear in my post what I was getting at. How you read it? That's on you.
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I'm not even quite sure what point your trying to make here. So I guess I'll move on....
Good idea, because you know exactly what point I'm trying to make. You're smarter than that.
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Red shirt, to part timer with 12 tackles to unexpected starter is an upward trajectory. He really owned us, eh?
You were wrong in your guess, so I'd kinda shut up on this one if I were you, NoSaint. You're kissing up to teacher, and that's sad.
Yeah he did. Aaron Maybin. The 3 year starter.
Fair enough, NewEra. Just remember, you asked for the list before denying that you asked for one. I shot from the hip, and got one wrong. Point stands that "All American" and "three-year starter" don't guarantee success at the NFL level. It has been proven time and time again, and if you attempt to say otherwise, you'll look like a total tool.
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I assume he was getting at maybin not being a senior that contributed for 4 years
We were talking about three, though... He can try any way he likes, I have a way around it with those two.
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I would.
I bet you would. Let's start with Maybin and McClain, who both fall into that category. A list like that would take HOURS to compile because there are hundreds of Maybins and McClains over the past decade alone.
The crux of his argument is that you can't judge a player by one game.That was the OP's argument, which was well stated. His argument was gibberish. Sorry.
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LOL................what a weak counter-argument
Kinda like this gem by you?
No list needed, since it would not really prove anything. Many All-Americans succeed, some fail.Thank you for proving my main point and neutering your own. That's pretty funny.
Funny, no one wants to debate with the "professional NFL scouts all put him in the top 15 picks" argument.Oh? I think Mrags did a brilliant job. Or do you have selective reading issues?
"yup. All the same scouts that thought Maybin, Sanchez, Leaf, Russel, Young, Gabbert, Curry, and McClain were also top draft picks. Say what you want about how many of them were over rated at the time, or some scouts Didnt think they were as good as advertised. In the end, all of these players were expected to be first round draft picks and all of them either sucked or flamed out because of mental issues. It's not an exact science." -- Mrags
Let's revisit Te'o one year from now, just as K-9 and I agreed to revisit Graham over Wilson a year later, right after we picked the failed WR. Still waiting, K-9.
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If you're sayin "NO" for Teo @8, What's your major hangup with him? -Just not good enough? Do you agree that he's still young, and should be allowed to grow as a player and a person?
Fair question. I don't believe he will fare well against NFL talent, and I question his judgment. I see him as a distraction, in light of last week's drama. I'd rather not deal with it.
Edit: I absolutely agree that he's still young and should be allowed to grow as a player and a person. Just not on the Bills, who can do better @#8.
Just my opinion.
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Te"O is an All-American, a starter for three years and has improved each year.
This is the crux of your argument? Would you like me to start a list of all of the All-American, three-year college starters who "improved each year" -- only to become busts in the NFL?
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This one is MUCH better than some of the recent ones! Although last week's Flaco/elite story line was pretty good, too.
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Mr. Hubble says dynasties are for people with self-esteem issues...
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... Mr. Hubble would be right.
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Our pick is going to be Barkley.
Dear God, no...
Edit: In any case, I don't see Barkley slipping past Arizona. There's some weird love-fest going on there.
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even best case, by him not saying a word to correct it - he helped create it.
Beat me to it.
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Ah hem...
Manti Te’o’s Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football Season, Is A Hoax
Holy hell...
Edit: Initial reaction is shock, but I'm going to try to reserve judgment until this is investigated further. Can't tell you how many times I've heard the story.
Someone who posted under that article wrote, "Nosuch Dame" -- which is morbidly clever, if this turns out to be true.
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Belichek shows much more emotion than someone like Gailey. He may not be a Harbaugh or Gruden, but he's not crypt keeper either.
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My suspicion is there will be 2 QBs, maybe 3 before the Bills draft at 8.
I agree. One team will take Smith. Another will reach for Barkley.
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Funny, a few weeks ago this board would have exploded with joy seeing a list that had Buffalo taking T'eo at #8, now everyone once to pass because of a Bowl game?
He was tested against elite talent, akin to what he will see in the NFL. He bombed. Sounds about right to me.
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No, they don't. I was talking about the second round. Please read my posts in full if you must reply.
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I am not sure about 'reaching' for a QB at #8. How many teams are targeting a QB in round 1? 2 or 3 maybe?
Hence the possible "urgency" of the new staff to get who we believe is "their guy" early. In the second round, QB-needy teams drafting in front of us include:
- Jaguars
- Chiefs
- Browns (maybe)
- Cardinals
- Jets
- Titans
Trading down is always something to consider but easier said than done since you need to find a partner willing to part with additional picks for moving up to get a guy they really want.Agreed. Competent GMs consider any and all options. Contrary to others here, I doubt Nix will have much control over the draft, regardless of what the Bills brass says publicy. But on the off chance he does, there's no way we do this even if we get an offer that makes sense.
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Russian sandwiches here. You get no choice. There are no choices in Russia.
Sure there are. Tyranny -- or tyranny.
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Can we NOT re-live the Whitner thing.....
Doubt it. We're picking 8th again.
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Hmmmm... Just scrolled down a bit on his Twitter account (@DominiqueEllis7).
Dude's going to have to stop using that type of profanity if he wants to get very far in the NFL.
Yeah -- Even though it's only Twitter. Looks like he needs to grow up.
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congratulations..............just stay off the field.
Let's not be so hasty. I think he'd look great on the field -- In Jersey green, for example.
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Can i be the first to insert a Fitz joke?
Seeing how the baby is healthy, I take it she came out head first? OUCH.
Seriously: Congrats to Fitz, Fitzwife, and welcome to Fitzbaby.
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Buddy Nix has FINAL say for this draft....
I honestly believe Nix has NO say -- and has had no say -- in anything the Bills have done/will do since Chan was fired. Publicly, maybe. Privately, I'm not seeing it.
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A very public about-face
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Bud Adams
Impeccable timing, B. You seem to have missed the party. Coincidence?
You may continue your love-fest with T'eo all you'd like. It's unlikely that you'll respond to my calling you out when he underachieves next year, and busts in two. My only hope is it's not with the Bills.
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