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3 hours ago, CSBill said:
I just put this in the Dorsey thread, and I think it has strong relevance here. I tend to agree with you House, we do not want any experiments or unknown quantities. Furthermore . . .
"If Dorsey does move on, I wonder (worry a bit) how that affects Josh Allen?
Exhibit A: I am reminded of the quick downward spiral of the Texans when they did not hire the guy Watson wanted. I realize there were a bunch of other factor there, but my point is that you want the organization to do everything they can to keep your star player's emotional psyche in balance. Allen has alway talked about how Daboll was more than a Coach to him. It appears (from the outside) he has a similar relationship with Dorsey. I worry how it will affect him if both go.
Exhibit B: Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers is uber talented, but it appears (by the results) that his on-the-edge psyche, along with his abrasive personality, does not play well on his teammates over the course of a long season. It seems the Packer have done everyhting wrong in keep him happy and content, and the team has paid for it.
I think Allen is built on a much stronger platform than these two examples, but I do not want the Bills to test that either. I do hope McDermott and Beane are serious when they discussed that Josh would be involved in the process. He has to be fully on board with whatever they end up doing."
My Point: Whomever it is, they have to connect fast and well with #17.
If Green Bay being the number one seed in the NFC is "The team paying for it" then its working well.
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49 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:
Was there ever a player more polarizing on this Bills roster than Edmund has been in the last 2-3 years? I have a love hate relationship with him. On one hand I love him as a coverage guy, he truly flashes elite potential there but I am absolutely sick and tired of this guy shooting the wrong gaps. Is his lack of production there simply a product of a really soft McD/Leslie Frazier defense? I mean, how can he shoot any gaps when our coaches have him 20 yds off the ball?
Ultimately I like Edmunds at a price. I do think we should keep him at say $10M-$11M. Give him a contract in the neighborhood of what Milano got and I’m happy with it. Anything more than that then they should just trade him and at least get something for him.
What are your thoughts Bills fans? Should we extend him? Trade him? Or let him walk?
1 minute ago, stevestojan said:
Paying him for tackles for a loss would violate federal minimum wage laws.1 minute ago, stevestojan said:
Paying him for tackles for a loss would violate federal minimum wage laws.Move him to outside so he doesn't have to think because obviously he always makes the wrong choice.
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3 hours ago, BobBelcher said:
I almost made this question specific to Pats losses.
With the well-known dominance of the Patriots over the past 20 some odd years, there have been SEVERAL seasons in which losing to the Pats rendered the Bills at a new low point.
It is remarkable to me that every season (except 2020) we play this team and not only do they beat us, but they ALWAYS pour salt on the wound along with it in some way. There's ALWAYS some kind of negative impact towards the rest of our season that comes with it.
This year for instance... Bills lose to Pats... suddenly our guys are walking out of press conferences... suddenly you have the usually tight-lipped McDermott throwing his players under the bus, throwing McKenzie under the bus, both publicly... suddenly you have fans saying McDermott has to go... there's starting to be perceived dysfunction within this group that not too long ago was described as a close knit family...... and it's all happening after the Patriots beat us.
All of these things make it all the more difficult to digest and continues to fuel our hatred towards the Patriots.
BUT... As I started to think about how long it takes me to process a Bills loss, I realized that it's pretty much the same with all of them, but with the Pats it is just amplified.
So, I am asking about losses in general here.
In other words, I'm asking how long does it take until you are OVER IT?
When does the outcome of the game stop affecting your overall mood?
For me, there are distinct stages in how I process a Bills loss to the Pats.
The first 24 hours suck:
I get depressed and it SUCKS. It affects my mood, my relationships, my energy/motivation, you name it. This is where I'll often wonder why the heck I care about this team so much in the first place? And how nice it would be to STOP caring about football because I hate the fact that it can literally ruin an entire day for me. And that entire day consists of periodically playing back EVERY missed opportunity from the game in my mind, and with each missed opportunity identified, the frustration grows.
Then by day #2:
The periodic reminiscing finally begins to subside and the rationalization process begins and at some point I'll land on a stupid-ass reason to remain hopeful, but this process of BS'ing myself (maybe) is essential to moving on for me because without that hope, there is not much to get excited about when you watch.
FINALLY, by DAY #3, I've officially moved on to the upcoming game...
So, what about YOU?I've always wondered if other Bills fans were as tormented by losses as I am. And if so, how long it took to stop thinking about it. Interested to hear the processing/coping mechanisms others have.
That's right, I admit it... I NEED HELP!! 😆
Becoming a Gold Star dad trained me to accept it immediately, there's more to life than winning a game. But that doesn't stop me from being 100% focused (cheering, yelling, bitching at stupidity and refs) during the games. #GoBills.
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12 hours ago, Arkady Renko said:
Just wondering if the joy of last night had a tinge of sadness and regret for anyone else who has lost a close Bills fan recently. I was overjoyed last night but all of a sudden this sharp pain hit me after the initial excitement wore off.
One of my great joys growing up was watching the Bills with my father during the Super Bowl years. He wasn't a Bills fan originally (was actually a Colts fan until they moved) but I converted him to the closest team that I selected as a kid. He eventually cared almost as much as me. He died this spring after a horrendous ordeal with cancer in the midst of all the COVID terribleness. He lasted less than a year after his diagnosis.
We watched the MNF game against the Patriots last year in the emergency room. We never got to watch another Bills game together. He was in the hospital for the next month or so and we weren't allowed to visit him or enjoy the playoff run with him. He could hardly communicate during this time. He rallied in February but then crashed suddenly a couple months later. I obviously want the Bills to win it all, but it just sucks that this might be the year for the Bills and I won't be able to share it with him.
Sorry if this is too real or brings people down but if someone else is dealing with this know that you are not alone.
I know the feeling. My 24 year old son died while in the Army last year. Biggest Bills fan you could imagine. Not being able to talk Bills football (after all the crap years he lived through) does takes away from it. Bills AFC East champs 1995. He was born in 1996. He died in June 2020. Bills AFC East champs 2020. Crazy.
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4 hours ago, TBBills said:
Offensive slump? Is this a joke?
I guess because he threw for less than 200 yards.
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I'll cheer for Colts, Rams or somthing like that you know, something eats grass! It's darn hard to be a Bills fan these days!!!!
so, you would cheer for two teams that left their cities to play someplace else?
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Not to make a comparison, but as I said before I was once a big proponent of Edwards and am now under the belief that this is his last chance to make a statement or Brohm's only chance as otherwise we will be getting a new QB in next year's draft. But, back in 04, the Chargers drafted Rivers because they thought Brees was a bust. Could Edwards have a year 4 breakout of epic proportions?
Brees
Year W-L Comp% Yds TD-Int Yds/A Rating
2001 0-0 55.6% 221 1-0 8.2 94.8
2002 8-8 60.8% 3284 17-16 6.2 76.9
2003 2-9 57.6% 2108 11-15 5.9 67.5
2004 11-4 65.5% 3159 27-7 7.9 104.8
Edwards
Year W-L Comp% Yds TD-Int Yds/A Rating
2007 5-4 56.1% 1630 7-8 6.1 70.4
2008 7-7 65.5% 2699 11-10 6.6 85.4
2009 2-5 60.1% 1169 6-7 5.3 73.8
2010 ????
Building through the draft
in The Stadium Wall
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I used to always feel that way about our CBs. We'd draft one (usually for Ohio State it seemed) and after getting groomed here he would go someplace else.