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  1. 1 hour ago, JoPar_v2 said:

    No stats do not tell the “whole story,” but the particular stat shown was in response to your very specific excuse for Allen: that his receivers dropped a lot of passes. Simply not true, relative to the other QB prospects’ drop rates. 

     

    Now you’re backing off of that claim, which is fine. He may very well end up being a good pick for someone, but let’s not bend the truth in an attempt to make excuses for the guy. The shortcomings are there. BTW, his completion % stayed steady for ‘16 and ‘17, and he had two different receiving corps those years. Maybe the problem is him.

    Well, from the games and highlights, I saw, I seen his receivers drop the passes. So sorry I did not watch every game and go in to the history log to get you every stat. My option, take it or leave it.

  2. 8 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

    Hey genius he was just providing a little evidence in the face of your unsubstantiated claim. Allen’s receivers did not drop an inordinate amount of balls. Course you “watched a few games” so you thought you knew better. 

     

    Has nothing to do with where they’ll be picked.

    I'll own up to stats. Ok sure.. Stats do not tell the whole story though. You and I both know it. My point in the order is if those stats are  everything than would you pick in the order that the stats layed out? Of course you would not. And would you pick Allan's receivers over the other QBs receivers. Probably not. If you don't like Allen because you say his completion % is bad, than go off the stats. That's your reasoning. To me. I see the guy with the most upside. He has a good arm. And is fast and can hit the Windows. If I were to just base a pick on stats, than I'm only basing the pick off of part of the story. He is a good pick.

  3. 2 hours ago, mjt328 said:

     

    I think you assume that everyone is just harping on his completion percentage.  And trust me, they are not.

    Ball placement is being considered.

     

    Watch any YouTube "vs" game of Josh Allen's, and I promise you will see multiple throws where he puts the ball high, low, short and behind.  You will see him forcing his receivers to slow down or completely stop running.  You will see him completely miss targets.  Everybody has bad throws sometimes, but Allen very much reminds me of what we saw from EJ Manuel. 

     

    The most accurate NFL QBs (like Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers) have one thing in common.  Muscle memory.  They have excellent mechanics when delivering the ball, and it's identical every single time they have a chance to set their feet and deliver.  Guys like Allen and Manuel always appear to be "aiming" their throws.  It's not a natural motion they have learned.  When players have not developed this by the time they reach the NFL, there is a good chance it will never happen.

     

    Great points. I look at all the QBs. I like Rosen the most. But when you compare these guys, they are all different from one another. Outside of the interceptions, Darnold looks like the safe pick, Rosen is probably the most ready to start. Mayfield has the grit and mindset to be a good QB. Heart. He has that. But pure potential and natural abilities. Allan has that. Allan could play in this weather. And his footwork has really improved. Palmer is really helping this kid. He looked great at Senior Bowl and Combine. Footwork has so much to do with it. Mayfield a footwork is really good. But Allan is the fastest outside of Jackson. As tall as Rothlisberger, and has a cannon. Plus he looks coachable. Palmer has shown this. Stanford was not accurate and he is pretty dam good. I actually think Allan can learn from Both Peterman and McCarron. If you only have to give up a first and a third for him, I say you make that trade in a heartbeat.

  4. 9 minutes ago, Doc said:

    He won't.  They won't be able to fix his accuracy issues.

    I find it funny how everyone keeps on the accuracy issues. The kid had bad receivers. If you bother to look at the highlights, his receivers dropped a lot. The placement is what should be considered. A lot of those drops were right in position to be caught. He had 1 decent receiver out of 4. Plus he was down a starting center and RB. This guy can run, throw, anticipate and most importantly see over the center. Mayfield is Short and will have problems.

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  5. Ok. I know we have not hired a new coach yet, but if things go the way of what the consensus believes as truth, than Anthony Lynn will probably be the coach. I Just have a funny feeling that Palmer may be Lynn's OC. He has done well with his job. He also has trained and instructed Blake Bortles. I hear that Bortles respects palmers coaching style and is a big fan. Who knows what will happen in Jacksonville, but that is a tough call in letting Bortles guide that sinking ship. I don't know how any QB could succeed behind that OL. I do think that Bortles has a lot of good qualities. I could see that this situation with Tyrod could get toxic quickly. Honestly, If a trade can happen, Maybe not Taylor for Bortles, but something could get completed. Draft picks or maybe even Jerry Hughes. I don't know what the offer could be, but I would be interested in the idea of Bortles playing here.

  6. Hey, like I said. I think there are better options out there. Out of all the free agent QBs, I'd take Bradford but we need competition at QB, so that's why these two guys were brought up. Who knows what Roman has in mind, he may or may not like either guys but he has a working knowledge of them. Sometimes that's the difference. I agree that we should never have a guy on our roster named Blaine.

  7. If we are all going on the assumption that we are bringing in FA QBs, Are we not going to wonder if we brought in guys that have worked with Roman before? Both Gabbert and Colt McCoy worked with Roman. I'm assuming one of these guys will be here. Which one would you rather have on the roster? I myself, think that there may be better options out there, but this is the Bills. They will get someone on the cheap and I'm pretty sure both of these guys will not break the Bank. Thoughts. Who has the potential. Can Gabbert be a huge bust? McCoy has the most game experience.

  8. I think they take their time on this one. We will see the obvious coaches get scooped up by 49rs (Ryan) Falcons, (Bowles) Chicago.(Quin) Honestly, the best candidate is already in the building. I'm hoping we make him the coach. Schwartz should be the coach. move Pepper Johnson to DC and if Polin does come here, tm hoping he can convince Reich to be our OC. Make the lateral move and give him an assistant HC title. That would work for me.

     

    But if they decide to hire Reich as the HC. I'd be ok with that too. He is a smart guy. And Someone who the team would back right away.

     

  9. completing what 45% ? He's got a long way to go, and his road games are horrible. So they are trying to break in rookie qb are you okay with 4-12 for a couple years? And not fire the coach?

    getting the guy and having him sit and develop is what I would have done
  10. Schwartz and Harbaugh hate each other. Jim Kelly and Harbaugh hate each other. He is not a Buffalo type coach. He is a pre-Madonna washed up mediocre old QB. That's it. He had Andrew luck in college. And Kapernick in the read option before people figured it out. This year he did not add anything

     

  11. Ya know what? We are still searching for talent. However you want to slice it. Draft/Free Agency. We need more playmakers. I do think Britt has talent. If he had a year to prove what he is worth and we did not break the bank, than why wouldn't you sign him? And just like DaRick Rodgers, if it does not work, than you cut em loose. I'm betting he goes to Carolina, but he would fit well with our receivers pushing him to be better. They are young and on the verge of great things, maybe they are just the group that puts up some big numbers with a guy like Britt that demands double coverage on the other side

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