WVUFootball29 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I really thought that if any DE would be cut, it would be Ryan Denney. I'm surprised it was Copeland Bryan. Seth McKinney over Kirk Chambers? This one surprises me. Justin Jenkins is a gunner, that's why he made the team. Can Stupar be placed on the practice squad? Alvin Bowen & Cary Harris are P-Squad bound. Stupar, Bowen, and Harris will all be on the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 And many NFL insiders would agree. Sporting News assembled a group of NFL scouts to rank players, and he was in the top 10. Scouts INC also has him in the top 10. It's not my fault people don't understand schemes.It is your fault though if you spend more time reading about football instead of actually watching the games. (see: Kelsay, Lil Donte) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I would have kept Copeland Bryan over Kelsay. Kelsay blows. Kelsay blows two-peckered Tijuana billygoats with piss-hardons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I actually make a habit of watching the lines, and I have read what many scouts have said about Kelsay. So, yes. I agree totally, Kelsay is a decent end. He is a good run stopper, and may not get sacks but does get a little pressure on the QB as the average DE in this league. There is more to the position than sacks, Kelsay can now come out on third down with Mabin around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Stupar, Bowen, and Harris will all be on the practice squad. I could also see Corey Mace & Nick Hennessey make the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 It is your fault though if you spend more time reading about football instead of actually watching the games. (see: Kelsay, Lil Donte) So you're saying I should trust your opinion more than people who are paid to evaluate players? Instead of calling an electrician, I'll make sure to give you a call the next time i need to rewire my house. I'm sure TG could attest to how highly Donte is regarded around the league. PS: I've had season tickets since I was 6, and watch every game over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gianelli Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I agree, ho-hum. Not much gnashing of teeth over losing these guys. It makes me long for the late 80s/early 90s when there was a lot of suspense about who would be cut, because you knew they could start or at least compete on other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I actually make a habit of watching the lines, and I have read what many scouts have said about Kelsay. So, yes. Well if you know anything about schemes then you would know that a slow DE with horrible agility, no pass rush moves and the complete inability to counter the initial puch of a Tackle does not fit in this defense. you suck at your habit, try smoking. Please tell me why he is good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Well if you know anything about schemes then you would know that a slow DE with horrible agility, no pass rush moves and the complete inability to counter the initial puch of a Tackle does not fit in this defense. you suck at your habit, try smoking. Please tell me why he is good? Let's see what the scouts have to say about him, shall we? Kelsay has been a mainstay on the Bills' defense since his second season in the league in 2004. Kelsay is somewhat undersized but is a high energy player with good athleticism and instincts. He has great initial quickness to gain leverage early in the play with speed to close and run down plays along the line of scrimmage. He finds the level of the ball well to read and react to get to the pile. He has active hands to control blockers and is able to separate effectively to maintain gap responsibility. Kelsay isn't a naturally powerful defender but can set the edge effectively with technique, athleticism and effort. He runs well showing excellent range for his position. Kelsay is a solid pass rusher but has never been a big producer in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I agree totally, Kelsay is a decent end. He is a good run stopper, and may not get sacks but does get a little pressure on the QB as the average DE in this league. There is more to the position than sacks, Kelsay can now come out on third down with Mabin around. There is no such thing as a DE in a Cover 2 defense who comes out on 3rd downs. Know what you are talking about before you open your a##hole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I was hopeing they'd keep stupar Stupar was their best TE all preseason. Stupid. Copeland Bryan? He was one of their best D linemen all preseason. Do they not watch the games prior to making cuts? Do they just stick with what their vets at EVERY position? What a buncha morons we have running this team. We are DOOMED. you, Jauron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Stupar, Bowen, and Harris will all be on the practice squad. Unless someone picks up Stupar for their active roster. He only led the NFL in catches in the preseason. Someone will probably pick him up. Let's hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Surprised bout stupar and Palmer and Mcytyre make team wow news flash - Stupar got axed. Go back to sleep now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I love. The tards at OBD cut Stupar, the only TE we have with a knack for finding an open space and doing something with the ball, so we can keep two worthless pieces of sh-- in Schoumann and Fine. And then you know Nelson will barely see the field this season because "he's only a rookie." This is the biggest problem with dick jauron. He knows his ass is on the line, so he keeps worthless vets that make minimal mistakes, but minimal plays. Can't risk keeping a young player who may make some big plays, because he might make a mistake. I would have liked to see kelsay's ass get cut and someone like Bryan or Mace kept, but the worthless white warrior keeps his job because he's jaurons BFF. I also have no idea why wendling made the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Let's see what the scouts have to say about him, shall we? "Kelsay is a solid pass rusher but has never been a big producer in this area." I'm glad you get your knowledge from Billy Bob's Scouting Service. They lost all credibility when they said the he is a "solid pass rusher"? He has 17 career sacks in 7 years! Then Billy Bob contradicts himself in the same breath by saying, "But he's never been a big producer in that area"?????? I don't know what to make of that statement. Here's a statement that makes sense, Kelsey is a terrible pass rusher totalling 10 sack in the last 3 years. Go back and watch the games bro. He's playing "Dancing with the Stars" with every RT he comes into contact with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Corto and Wendling could've been dropped for Bowen and Stupar. I wouldn't have been disappointed seeing Rhodes over McIntyre either. Chambers/McKinney - what's the diffrence. Copeland over Denney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 No major surprises, outside of Chambers. I had a feeling Kelsay would be kept over Bryan, although I didn't agree with it. And I was hoping they'd find a way to keep Derrick Jones. I also didn't see Stupar making it, but he can go on the PS. Bowen was a longshot after his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 There is no such thing as a DE in a Cover 2 defense who comes out on 3rd downs. Know what you are talking about before you open your a##hole! Geez, dude. Ever heard of diazepam? And, I believe that the Bills do rotate D lineman (to include the D ends) on obvious passing downs. So, to sub in a pass rushing specialist on a 3rd and 10 for the better run stopping end is an appropriate tactic. I don't see how the cover 2 defense has anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Im still surprised at Rhodes. leaking it earlier in the day definitely cut down in people's bewilderment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Im still surprised at Rhodes. leaking it earlier in the day definitely cut down in people's bewilderment. True, that was a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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