Oct 2002 - The story of Dick Jauron "Coward"-gate

[Rico]

And he still hasn't been able to go .500 in three tries, nor in 4 out of five seasons at his last job. In most other franchises, that'll get you fired, but not in Buffalo.

 

I frankly don't care what happens with other teams. If you can't win by year 3 of a rebuilding plan, you've failed. End of story.

 

And out of that overhaul, none of his picks in UFA and the draft can be considered a playmaker.

Absolutely, unequivocally correct.

[thebandit27]

Bledsoe is another guy we should have kept. If we invested as many picks on the offensive and defensive lines as we did in the QB position, which fans such as yourself froth over, we'd be on top of the division. Our record in the last decade against New England is more a reflection on how bad we are than how good they are.

 

McKelvin gambles too much- thats how it is. Whatever Williams name is....he stinks. Hangartner was a fill in for the Panthers.

 

And by the way, I've probably been watching the Bills since before you were born, so go stick your own head back in the sand

 

Bledsoe is another guy we should have kept.

 

Right, your basing your opinion on Bledsoe's great play in Dallas after he left? Awesome.

 

If we invested as many picks on the offensive and defensive lines as we did in the QB position, which fans such as yourself froth over, we'd be on top of the division.

 

All 6 AFC teams that made the playoffs last season had former 1st round picks at QB, so your observation couldn't possibly be more incorrect. The issue is that the team hasn't gotten it right at QB since Kelly.

 

Our record in the last decade against New England is more a reflection on how bad we are than how good they are.

 

Yeah, I mean, it's not like they've won 3 superbowls this decade or anything.

 

McKelvin gambles too much- thats how it is.

 

Wow, great reasoning to support your argument...really compelling.

 

Whatever Williams name is....he stinks.

 

How would you know? You don't even know who the guy is.

 

Hangartner was a fill in for the Panthers.

 

Check the stats there, chum, he started 27 games in the last 3 years.

 

And by the way, I've probably been watching the Bills since before you were born, so go stick your own head back in the sand

 

Just further evidence of two things: (1) Time served on the earth does not indicate growth of the mind, and (2) Perhaps people really do start to lose their mental faculties when they get older.

 

Any other BS you'd like to sling around?

[Adam]

Bledsoe is another guy we should have kept.

 

Right, your basing your opinion on Bledsoe's great play in Dallas after he left? Awesome.

 

If we invested as many picks on the offensive and defensive lines as we did in the QB position, which fans such as yourself froth over, we'd be on top of the division.

 

All 6 AFC teams that made the playoffs last season had former 1st round picks at QB, so your observation couldn't possibly be more incorrect. The issue is that the team hasn't gotten it right at QB since Kelly.

Actually, our bad OL cut Kelly's career short. Bledsoe isn't very good, never was, and never claimed he was.....we could have used draft picks elsewhere if we stuck with him....he is no worse than what we have now...probably was better.

[stuckincincy]

Actually, our bad OL cut Kelly's career short. Bledsoe isn't very good, never was, and never claimed he was.....we could have used draft picks elsewhere if we stuck with him....he is no worse than what we have now...probably was better.

 

 

I'm not quite sure what you are saying, but in his heyday, Bledsoe had a pretty good run of slapping the Bills around. He was a pretty decent QB throughout his career.

[The Big Cat]

Actually, our bad OL cut Kelly's career short. Bledsoe isn't very good, never was, and never claimed he was.....we could have used draft picks elsewhere if we stuck with him....he is no worse than what we have now...probably was better.

 

Uuh..Bledsoe was very good in New England. He also showed flashes of brilliance in Buffalo and played well for a time in Dallas.

 

Also Kyle Williams is not a bad player. Of course, one cant be expected to offer a sound evaluation on a player's skills when he cant even get the player's name right.

 

Why do you come here? How can you consider yourself a Bills fan when all you do is make sh-t up to rag on the players? Is your life so pathetic that you troll NFL message boards? Or is your existence just that miserable?

[Da Big Man]

Uuh..Bledsoe was very good in New England. He also showed flashes of brilliance in Buffalo and played well for a time in Dallas.

 

Also Kyle Williams is not a bad player. Of course, one cant be expected to offer a sound evaluation on a player's skills when he cant even get the player's name right.

 

Why do you come here? How can you consider yourself a Bills fan when all you do is make sh-t up to rag on the players? Is your life so pathetic that you troll NFL message boards? Or is your existence just that miserable?

Dude, What NFL are you watching? Blue Dredsoe was a .500 QB at best. Didn't do much here and got benched and finally cut in Dallas, he will never go to Canton. Just cause you don't know what you are seeing, please don't project it on to those of us who do. These overpaid primadonnas don't work as hard as they can. Now I know we can chalk that up to a soft coaching strategy by Dick J and Friends.

[The Big Cat]

Dude, What NFL are you watching? Blue Dredsoe was a .500 QB at best. Didn't do much here and got benched and finally cut in Dallas, he will never go to Canton. Just cause you don't know what you are seeing, please don't project it on to those of us who do. These overpaid primadonnas don't work as hard as they can. Now I know we can chalk that up to a soft coaching strategy by Dick J and Friends.

 

.500 QB...at best?

 

From Patriots.com:

His 4,452 pass attempts in his first eight seasons rank second to Brett Favre whose 4,456 attempts are the most by a quarterback during any eight-year period in NFL history

He passed for 3,291 yards in 2000, his seventh consecutive season with at least 3,000 yards passing.

Bledsoe was durable during his career, playing in 126 of his first 132 games since entering the league in 1993, and never missing a start after leaving NE until benched in 2006.

In 2002, his first season in Buffalo, he set single season records for yards, attempts, completions on an offense that had 7 other franchise records.

In 1998, he directed the Patriots to the playoffs for the fourth time in six seasons.

In 1994, he set Patriots franchise single-season passing records for attempts (691), completions (400) but only a 57.8 completion percentage and yards passing (4,555), just 6.59 yards per completion.

In 1995, he set a franchise record by attempting 179 consecutive passes without an interception (10/23/95 to 11/26/95).

At the age of 23, he became the youngest player in NFL history to surpass the 10,000-yard passing plateau when he connected with Ben Coates on a 6-yard completion just before the half vs. the Jets (12/10/95).

Prior to 1994, the Patriot's single-season record for passing yards was 3,465 yards. Bledsoe eclipsed that mark six consecutive seasons.

At the age of 22, he became the youngest quarterback in NFL history to play in the Pro Bowl.

 

Oh yeah, he went to two Super Bowls (granted the tuck call got them to the second, but he was their starter that entire season)

[Rico]

.500 QB...at best?

 

From Patriots.com:

His 4,452 pass attempts in his first eight seasons rank second to Brett Favre whose 4,456 attempts are the most by a quarterback during any eight-year period in NFL history

He passed for 3,291 yards in 2000, his seventh consecutive season with at least 3,000 yards passing.

Bledsoe was durable during his career, playing in 126 of his first 132 games since entering the league in 1993, and never missing a start after leaving NE until benched in 2006.

In 2002, his first season in Buffalo, he set single season records for yards, attempts, completions on an offense that had 7 other franchise records.

In 1998, he directed the Patriots to the playoffs for the fourth time in six seasons.

In 1994, he set Patriots franchise single-season passing records for attempts (691), completions (400) but only a 57.8 completion percentage and yards passing (4,555), just 6.59 yards per completion.

In 1995, he set a franchise record by attempting 179 consecutive passes without an interception (10/23/95 to 11/26/95).

At the age of 23, he became the youngest player in NFL history to surpass the 10,000-yard passing plateau when he connected with Ben Coates on a 6-yard completion just before the half vs. the Jets (12/10/95).

Prior to 1994, the Patriot's single-season record for passing yards was 3,465 yards. Bledsoe eclipsed that mark six consecutive seasons.

At the age of 22, he became the youngest quarterback in NFL history to play in the Pro Bowl.

 

Oh yeah, he went to two Super Bowls (granted the tuck call got them to the second, but he was their starter that entire season)

Try watching the games instead of reading the stats.

[The Big Cat]

Try watching the games instead of reading the stats.

 

Some stats speak for themselves.

[Adam]

Uuh..Bledsoe was very good in New England. He also showed flashes of brilliance in Buffalo and played well for a time in Dallas.

 

Also Kyle Williams is not a bad player. Of course, one cant be expected to offer a sound evaluation on a player's skills when he cant even get the player's name right.

 

Why do you come here? How can you consider yourself a Bills fan when all you do is make sh-t up to rag on the players? Is your life so pathetic that you troll NFL message boards? Or is your existence just that miserable?

I want them to win as much as anyone. the fact is that our players aren't very good and we have been finishing close to .500 for years now due to smoke and mirrors. good teams build in the trenches- we screw that up nearly every time. Bledsoe did ok in new england with a very good OL, a hall of fame TE, a hall of fame rb and a very good defense. not to mention a hall of fame coach.

 

Just because I got a guy's name wrong doesn't mean I don't know what I am watching. Williams has little explosion off the ball and can be handled by mid level players. We had s shot at getting Peria Jerry and line him up next to Stroud, giving us a strong middle. Instead we take the next big 10 DE to be a dissapointment and a bunch of DBs. I don't think much of wood or levitre's ability to hold at the point of attack either.

 

I am tired of getting rid of players just to expend draft picks on their replacements. This team has been spinning its wheels for 10 years and the fans don't care unless they get a shiny new qb or coach that won't fix the problem.

 

You want to get on so-called fans....talk to all the people sitting around me at the houston playoff game that were threatening me for talking about how we were going to come back and win like we did against denver a few yearws before......those people weren't real fans and should have been thrown out anyways

[Cynical]

Some stats speak for themselves.

 

Like coaching a team to a winning record 1 season out of 8.

[The Big Cat]

Like coaching a team to a winning record 1 season out of 8.

 

No, because there's no direct correlation.

 

Bledsoe throw football, football go far, Bledsoe get yards.

 

Jauron coach team, quarterback turn ball over three out of last four possessions, team lose.

[Cynical]

No, because there's no direct correlation.

 

Jauron coach team, quarterback turn ball over three out of last four possessions, team lose.

 

You're partially right. This is no correlation among ALL 3 items. Just like there is no correlation among ALL of the following 3 items:

 

Jauron coach team, defense gets 6 turnovers and scores 2 TDs, team lose.

 

That's because the middle item in both examples are extraneous. The result was the same. But there is one constant in both examples:

 

JAURON coach TEAM, TEAM lose.

 

It was like that in 4 out 5 years in Chicago, and 3 out 3 years in Buffalo.

 

2 different teams.

2 different ownership

2 different coaching staffs

2 different rosters

2 different sets of divisional opponents

1 constant

 

Jauron coach team, team lose.

 

That is a very direct correlation.

[OrangeJuiceSimpson]

You're partially right. This is no correlation among ALL 3 items. Just like there is no correlation among ALL of the following 3 items:

 

Jauron coach team, defense gets 6 turnovers and scores 2 TDs, team lose.

 

That's because the middle item in both examples are extraneous. The result was the same. But there is one constant in both examples:

 

JAURON coach TEAM, TEAM lose.

 

It was like that in 4 out 5 years in Chicago, and 3 out 3 years in Buffalo.

 

2 different teams.

2 different ownership

2 different coaching staffs

2 different rosters

2 different sets of divisional opponents

1 constant

 

Jauron coach team, team lose.

 

That is a very direct correlation.

 

You can't chalk up 8 seasons to coincidence. Jauron is the problem.

[The Big Cat]

You're partially right. This is no correlation among ALL 3 items. Just like there is no correlation among ALL of the following 3 items:

 

Jauron coach team, defense gets 6 turnovers and scores 2 TDs, team lose.

 

That's because the middle item in both examples are extraneous. The result was the same. But there is one constant in both examples:

 

JAURON coach TEAM, TEAM lose.

 

It was like that in 4 out 5 years in Chicago, and 3 out 3 years in Buffalo.

 

2 different teams.

2 different ownership

2 different coaching staffs

2 different rosters

2 different sets of divisional opponents

1 constant

 

Jauron coach team, team lose.

 

That is a very direct correlation.

 

HAHAHA, yes. Professional football IS that simple.

[Cynical]

HAHAHA, yes. Professional football IS that simple.

 

I never said pro football was that simple.

You attempted to show there was no correlation, and you failed. The correlation does exist.

 

Now, go waste your time trying to figure out why Jauron coached teams tend to lose.

Develop your little theories and concepts. When each one fails, you will create another new excuse in defense of Jauron.

 

Meanwhile, the rest of us have already looked, and have concluded all we need to look at is the big picture.

Dick Jauron is a loser.

 

In pro football, like real life, sometimes the most obvious answer and the most obvious solution are the most correct.

 

Jauron coach team, team lose.

[The Big Cat]

I never said pro football was that simple.

You attempted to show there was no correlation, and you failed. The correlation does exist.

 

Now, go waste your time trying to figure out why Jauron coached teams tend to lose.

Develop your little theories and concepts. When each one fails, you will create another new excuse in defense of Jauron.

 

Meanwhile, the rest of us have already looked, and have concluded all we need to look at is the big picture.

Dick Jauron is a loser.

 

In pro football, like real life, sometimes the most obvious answer and the most obvious solution are the most correct.

 

Jauron coach team, team lose.

 

Get a life.

[Adam]

I never said pro football was that simple.

You attempted to show there was no correlation, and you failed. The correlation does exist.

 

Now, go waste your time trying to figure out why Jauron coached teams tend to lose.

Develop your little theories and concepts. When each one fails, you will create another new excuse in defense of Jauron.

 

Meanwhile, the rest of us have already looked, and have concluded all we need to look at is the big picture.

Dick Jauron is a loser.

 

In pro football, like real life, sometimes the most obvious answer and the most obvious solution are the most correct.

 

Jauron coach team, team lose.

Jauron, Williams, Mularkey, Levy....... coach team, team lose. Whats your point. Go back to watching MTV

[C.Biscuit97]

I never said pro football was that simple.

You attempted to show there was no correlation, and you failed. The correlation does exist.

 

Now, go waste your time trying to figure out why Jauron coached teams tend to lose.

Develop your little theories and concepts. When each one fails, you will create another new excuse in defense of Jauron.

 

Meanwhile, the rest of us have already looked, and have concluded all we need to look at is the big picture.

Dick Jauron is a loser.

 

In pro football, like real life, sometimes the most obvious answer and the most obvious solution are the most correct.

 

Jauron coach team, team lose.

 

 

Dick Jauron's resume>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>yours

[Sisyphean Bills]

Jauron, Williams, Mularkey, Levy....... coach team, team lose. Whats your point. Go back to watching MTV

I think Levy and Mularkey had winning seasons in Buffalo. In fact, the Bills have never had a head coach prior to Jauron post 3 straight losing seasons in his first 3 seasons. Bullough, Rauch, Johnson, and Ramsey were all fired before they got to that point. Even Kay Stephenson and Gregg Williams posted a .500 record and they were gone in 3. And, Wade Phillips never had a losing season.